Buff the worms. they are OP

[Brody123]

straight op units. Folks spam them and steel balls and rhinos just aren't enough when they can be abused early/mid game.. u basically have to start with steel balls or rhinos just in-case the other person decides to build them. Tons of chaff around these worms makes em almost unstoppable

[wrathtribe]

Tons of chaff around a fortress make them almost unstoppable... also seem the fortress is pretty good counter to worms.

But this kind of qq post was not unexpected...

The Sandworm is formidable, giant melee unit specializing in burrowing underground, allowing the Sandworm to approach its enemies without taking damage while it remains beneath the surface!
Note: As always all units are subject to balancing changes as we collect vital feedback from the Community!

[{sBc} Bane5]

Fortresses (plus a tiny bit of chaff) eat them alive basically. Though most people don't pick DPS techs on fortresses (like launcher overload or elite marksman). Perhaps the meta will shift in that regard.

Edit: War factories also work.

[Boston Mangler]

Originally posted by {sBc} Bane5:

Fortresses (plus a tiny bit of chaff) eat them alive basically. Though most people don't pick DPS techs on fortresses (like launcher overload or elite marksman). Perhaps the meta will shift in that regard.

Just watched a lot of chaff and 4 Fortresses got stomped by the worms. Would like to see some sort of unit that gets an ability to prevent the worm from burrowing for a short time, maybe the EMP.

[Brody123]

Originally posted by wrathtribe:

Tons of chaff around a fortress make them almost unstoppable... also seem the fortress is pretty good counter to worms.

But this kind of qq post was not unexpected...

The Sandworm is formidable, giant melee unit specializing in burrowing underground, allowing the Sandworm to approach its enemies without taking damage while it remains beneath the surface!
Note: As always all units are subject to balancing changes as we collect vital feedback from the Community!

And a comment like yours is to be expected QQ
Marksman make easy work of fortress with tons of chaff, they dont go under ground. marksman ignore chaff at a distance and shoot large objects. fortress are one of the easiest to counter in the game

[Warlock]

Phoenixes eat them alive. I won a game against them using hackers too. Was pretty funny. Just put fangs in front of the hackers.

[Brody123]

Originally posted by Warlock:

Phoenixes eat them alive. I won a game against them using hackers too. Was pretty funny. Just put fangs in front of the hackers.

Phoenixes r too easy to win against in a range war. u can sit a marksman back and snipe them rather easy

[wrathtribe]

Originally posted by Boston Mangler:

Just watched a lot of chaff and 4 Fortresses got stomped by the worms. Would like to see some sort of unit that gets an ability to prevent the worm from burrowing for a short time, maybe the EMP.

Does a fortress lvl 1, with no tech, beat a worm lvl 1 with no tech? The answer is yes.

Does a fortress lvl 1 with no tech, supported by 2 fangs lvl 1 with no tech beat a worm lvl 1 with no tech supported by 2 crawlers lvl 1 with no tech? The answer is still yes, but about 50% of the crawler survive while all fangs die. So it is chaff problem, not a giant unit problem.

[wrathtribe]

Originally posted by NoBrakesAllGas:

And a comment like yours is to be expected QQ

At least you are paying attention to the poking, yet are clearly not taking it well as now you are projecting on me like a 6 year old... "no! you are what you just told me I was!!!"... truly mature of you, yet inefficient.

Originally posted by NoBrakesAllGas:

Marksman make easy work of fortress with tons of chaff, they dont go under ground. marksman ignore chaff at a distance and shoot large objects. fortress are one of the easiest to counter in the game

Now you are moving the goal posts (it is a rhetorical fallacy) by introducing sniper into the equation.

You are not very good at arguing and probably worst at the game and you are exposing yourself publicly as such when you come and cry about a unit that was introduced less than 12 hours ago, already whining like a little baby in fetal position.

Unless you have even more of the dumbdumb, you might have noticed that worms tech are all currently at 250 for example. What I am highlighting there is that the devs have clearly done that on purpose and this will be one of the likely many changes to come along with the stats of that unit. For the techs, they will compare usage by player with win rates, take feedback from the community (likely meaning a subset of players they trust with that) and we will soon see some tech prices changing up or down.

Now if you were a little bit less childish and had better anger management, instead of throwing a tantrum on the forum 5 seconds after meeting the new unit, you would have collected a bit more experience (also by using that worm unit yourself) and see what works and what doesn't work against it.

The Worm is indeed also going to hinder the infamous sniper spam (I know, that was one of my top 5 winning strats and the worm make it very much less efficient... but unlike you, I do not cry, even less digitally in public for petty changes ingame). But that like every unit, in every game, it is also available to you. Can a worm counter a worm?

Unlike you do, notice I don't use rhetorical fallacies, only rhetorical questions. So, maybe, instead of proving yourself as an equally shameless and mentally fragile player, what about you go back to the arena, learn to use and/or deal with the worm (meaning you gonna fail, many times) and give everyone a break with your super early complaints about something the devs already said will be shortly adjusted.

Or is it too early to expect you to be a Man yet?

[Brody123]

Originally posted by wrathtribe:

Originally posted by NoBrakesAllGas:

And a comment like yours is to be expected QQ

At least you are paying attention to the poking, yet are clearly not taking it well as now you are projecting on me like a 6 year old... "no! you are what you just told me I was!!!"... truly mature of you, yet inefficient.

Originally posted by NoBrakesAllGas:

Marksman make easy work of fortress with tons of chaff, they dont go under ground. marksman ignore chaff at a distance and shoot large objects. fortress are one of the easiest to counter in the game

Now you are moving the goal posts (it is a rhetorical fallacy) by introducing sniper into the equation.

You are not very good at arguing and probably worst at the game and you are exposing yourself publicly as such when you come and cry about a unit that was introduced less than 12 hours ago, already whining like an little baby in fetal position.

Unless you have even more of the dumbdumb, you might have noticed that worms tech are all currently at 250 for example. What I am highlighting there is that the devs have clearly done that on purpose and this will be one of the likely many changes to come along with the stats of that unit.

Now if you were a little bit less childish and had better anger management, instead of throwing a tantrum on the forum 5 seconds after meeting the new unit, you would have collected a bit more experience (also by using that worm unit yourself) and see what works and what doesn't work against it.

The Worm is indeed also going to hinder the infamous sniper spam (I know, that was one of my top 5 winning strats and the worm make it very much less efficient... but unlike you, I do not cry, even less digitally in public for petty changes ingame). But that like every unit, in every game, it is also available to you. Can a worm counter a worm?

Unlike you do, notice I don't use rhetorical fallacies, only rhetorical questions. So, maybe, instead of proving yourself as an equally shameless and mentally fragile player, what about you go back to the arena, learn to use and/or deal with the worm (meaning you gonna fail, many times) and give everyone a break with your super early complaints about something the devs already said will be shortly adjusted.

Or is it too early to expect you to be a Man yet?

i read one sentence, thanks for typing all that out just for me not to read, but all the other eyes seeing it im sure gives you the gratification you needed today . i bet you owned me in that long post, ill go back to my room and cry, because im sure that's how you are picturing it in your head, typical narcissism . i bet you respond again as well, because your mental profile will not allow for someone else to have the last word . typical behavior of a lil internet worm such as yourself

[Brody123]

Last edited by wrathtribe; 2 minutes ago lol , i bet you have read that post 10 times lmao. Keep finding grammorrr erorros ?

[wrathtribe]

Originally posted by NoBrakesAllGas:

i read one sentence, thanks for typing all that out just for me not to read,

Really? I did not expect that at all...

Originally posted by NoBrakesAllGas:

but all the other eyes seeing it im sure gives you the gratification you needed today

Oh so that is what you were after? Gratification?

Psychological projection is reavealing of your own intention, when you try to assume other's.

Originally posted by NoBrakesAllGas:

i bet you owned me in that long post, ill go back to my room and cry, because im sure that's how you are picturing it in your head, typical narcissism . i bet you respond again as well, because your mental profile will not allow for someone else to have the last word . typical behavior of a lil internet worm such as yourself

• Yes, I likely owned you.
  
• Yes, I am picturing you as an overgrown child (unless you actually are not overgrown yet)
  
• No, you have no idea what narcissism is.
  
• Yes, I am responding again, but not for the reason you think. Actually, I was being benevolent with you, trying - harshly I agree - to make you consider higher perspectives by shaming you for your low ones. But since you don't even bother reading, you'll never learn anything in your life from debates.
  
• No, I don't need to have the last word, I only respond because it amuses me to comfort your opinion.
  
• Lovely pun. Yes, coming from you, i'll carry that label proudly.

Originally posted by NoBrakesAllGas:

Last edited by wrathtribe; 2 minutes ago lol , i bet you have read that post 10 times lmao. Keep finding grammorrr erorros ?

EDIT. Yeah, there were a few spelling mistakes (and still are more) and I added a line. You can compare and play spot the difference but since you did not read the first either... I have no hope this will happen.

You are really, really arguing like a child (trying to get personal, attacking grammar when yours is far from perfect is quite the irony), you know. Well, of course you don't know. So yeah, too early for you to act, be a Man. I am sad for you.

[Arti_Sel]

Originally posted by {sBc} Bane5:

Fortresses (plus a tiny bit of chaff) eat them alive basically. Though most people don't pick DPS techs on fortresses (like launcher overload or elite marksman). Perhaps the meta will shift in that regard.

Edit: War factories also work.

Yep, people lose a couple of games and start crying without even trying to make adjustments. Worms aren't even a problem. Compare it to when the scorpion released and deleted tank meta and fang/ball pushes, the game still survived. Worms are nowhere near as impactful (yet). And it's like you said, if they become enough of a problem maybe it's time to respec a unit into a counterunit.

[Nightdancer]

WHO is sitting in development and is creating such stupid OP units?!? Is there no testing?
The are looking cool, I give you THAT.

[Polar Test 53]

Originally posted by {sBc} Bane5:

Fortresses (plus a tiny bit of chaff) eat them alive basically. Though most people don't pick DPS techs on fortresses (like launcher overload or elite marksman). Perhaps the meta will shift in that regard.

Edit: War factories also work.

hell yeah its my time to shine dps focued forts were my faves lol

[Brody123]

Originally posted by wrathtribe:

Tons of chaff around a fortress make them almost unstoppable... also seem the fortress is pretty good counter to worms.

But this kind of qq post was not unexpected...

The Sandworm is formidable, giant melee unit specializing in burrowing underground, allowing the Sandworm to approach its enemies without taking damage while it remains beneath the surface!
Note: As always all units are subject to balancing changes as we collect vital feedback from the Community!

I actually find it comical that in all that text no1 has told me about how i want to BUFF an OP unit.. Thanks for all the content, it really Nerfed my ego ..