Why is survival mode hard, while insane practice is easy?

[nightelfranger]

Survival mode feels very challenging to me, while Ive been just stomping over practice mode on first try. Am I doing something wrong or is this by design?

[shadowerie]

Survival mode is rng, you can face any of the multiple presets made by the devs. I guess there are like 50 at max. Everytime I play it I know how to beat every army infront of me but then I get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by rng giving me ♥♥♥♥ picks for units or the enemy army is fully upgraded with more points then I have.

[nightelfranger]

Originally posted by shadowerie:

Survival mode is rng, you can face any of the multiple presets made by the devs. I guess there are like 50 at max. Everytime I play it I know how to beat every army infront of me but then I get ♥♥♥♥♥♥ by rng giving me ♥♥♥♥ picks for units or the enemy army is fully upgraded with more points then I have.

Yea feels like that to me too. Like I build a comp to counter what opponent has but then their comp randomly changes to counter what I have and I dont have time to react to such a big shift. So Im not sure how you are supposed to play it? So should you play it more like not trying to hard counter what they have at any moment, but try to make very rounded comp in order to be able to fight some big shifts in comp? I suppose Im also quite new to the game so I still need to learn a lot about how to counter different things. Like how in one game after blitzing through half their hackers the other half pretty much wiped half my army.

[shadowerie]

Pretty much the only way atm to beat the ai is with air spam or factory spam, factory-steel ball(with crawler spawn+assembly on crawlers)-Phoenix (respawn ability), or overlord with wasp spawn and crawler/Vulcan. Like those are the 2 king strats I know of and it's ass I have to use cheesy strats for a chance. Only problem is setting it up with the right perks/items is a pain.

[shadowerie]

It's unfortunate really that 90% of the units in the game get hard countered when rolling through a dozen or so waves. Anything tanky will be countered by melting point, same with sledge or steel ball with chained health and Regen. If you go with ranged only like Phenix or marksman the game will counter with maxed out fangs or long range super arclights that have 196m 1 taps. Hacker is a joke by itself. Storms won't stop fast units or it will go stang anti missile crazy. Melting point is an idea but I can't get the composition down since you need the Regen with multi attack to heal through mass fortress but then you get single beamed by other melting points. Rhino suicide is a great back line counter but then like clockwork you get Phenix spammed. Scorpion can't deal with the chaff enough to be worth a damn, and wraith won't save you against long range fang spam.

[nightelfranger]

Originally posted by shadowerie:

Pretty much the only way atm to beat the ai is with air spam or factory spam, factory-steel ball(with crawler spawn+assembly on crawlers)-Phoenix (respawn ability), or overlord with wasp spawn and crawler/Vulcan. Like those are the 2 king strats I know of and it's ass I have to use cheesy strats for a chance. Only problem is setting it up with the right perks/items is a pain.

That is kinda sad. Like the randomness factor in this game is such a huge deal. I hope they manage to make it more balanced. On the other hand practice mode really needs some boost in difficulty.

[I2epresent]

Like others said, in Survival you've gotta commit to a certain strategy and hope you don't get hard countered several rounds in a row, which has happened to me plenty of times.

But it's also true that there are a finite number of preset deployments used by the computer, with some variation to each of them depending on the cards drawn each round.

The thing I find most annoying is the computer's tendency to hit you with 8 Overlords + 6 Stormcallers + 2 Wasps + a ton of chaff + a Rhino for good measure.

[KashanCzechs]

Keep complaining about the least played, most boring part of the game while announcing to the world you have amassive skill issue.

[I2epresent]

Originally posted by Noisy Toy King:

Keep complaining about the least played, most boring part of the game while announcing to the world you have amassive skill issue.

Whenever I read a comment like this I imagine some imperious pre-diabetic brushing Cheeto crumbs off his fingers and cracking his knuckles before treating us all to his unsolicited opinion on which game modes are worthy and why everyone who disagrees with him is unskilled.

[nightelfranger]

Yea lack of a good single player is kinda a big downside with this game.

[KashanCzechs]

Its literally not. This is a pvp first game with a single player probably tacked on as a proof-of-concept.

Keep crying baby cakes.