MMR should be removed

[axmoylotl]

It's so bad, this is genuinely the worst competitive mode in a game I've ever played. It's horrible on so many levels. It's actually killing my enjoyment of the game. The game is far too buggy and random to be competitive, and even if it was, this system ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sucks.

Why can't modern game devs just make casual games? Why does every game feel the need to be competitive matchmaking with leaderboards? The gameplay is casual, but they force it into a competitive system.

[Perplex]

Just ignore it? That's what i do. That way i don't care if i lose or win if i have a good game.

[HolgFromHell]

Yeah, ignore it and play 2vs2.

[HolgFromHell]

But of course having the possibility to play games with the option to (temporarely) disable MMR would be nicer.

[Sonnenbank]

Dude before mmr everybody complained that we need mmr.......

people with 50h were facing 1000h players etc....
1 game you could get someone who just strated 1 week ago and next game you can get someone who grinded 100s hours since beta

is that what you want ?
lol

[Easybeans]

Pretty sure this is a competitive game.

[Arti_Sel]

Originally posted by Easybeans:

Pretty sure this is a competitive game.

He has been told this many times. Pretty sure he is aiming to become the n1 forum troll.

[Takyy69]

This is a competitive game with almost no randomness, the better player wins 9/10 games. We need mmr or the games would be extremely boring. I would quit the game if i had to play against bad players all day, its no fun for anyone involved.

What they could do is copy starcraft and hide the mmr of low rated players. If everyone under for example 1900 mmr had their mmr hidden, then the good players would know where they stand and the bad players would not have to deal with ladder anxiety.

[PrinzMegahertz]

To my shame, I must admit that I had a mmr of 1600 when it was introduced and now I'm around 1200.

[Sonnenbank]

Originally posted by Takyy69:

This is a competitive game with almost no randomness, the better player wins 9/10 games. .

Unfortunately this is currently not true due too very bad itemcards you can choose.

Parasitic ammo....
if 2 players are even remotley similar in skill parasitic ammo will rng the game and the one who gets luckier with how he positioned overall unit placements before the card even showed up will win.

Also enhancment module is a big problem in higher mmr games.
you upgrade and sell a unit every round and place module in new unit.

Now lets say 1 players unit upgrades and the other one gets 98% xp
-> this means 1 player has 200 more credits than the other for the next round which
is a pretty big deal.

-they really need to change enhancment module to -> items having this module cant be sold
-And just remove parasitic ammo completely

to make it 99% skill based game again

[Codename Dutch]

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

Originally posted by Takyy69:

This is a competitive game with almost no randomness, the better player wins 9/10 games. .

Unfortunately this is currently not true due too very bad itemcards you can choose.

Parasitic ammo....
if 2 players are even remotley similar in skill parasitic ammo will rng the game and the one who gets luckier with how he positioned overall unit placements before the card even showed up will win.

Also enhancment module is a big problem in higher mmr games.
you upgrade and sell a unit every round and place module in new unit.

Now lets say 1 players unit upgrades and the other one gets 98% xp
-> this means 1 player has 200 more credits than the other for the next round which
is a pretty big deal.

-they really need to change enhancment module to -> items having this module cant be sold
-And just remove parasitic ammo completely

to make it 99% skill based game again

:if 2 players are even remotley similar in skill parasitic ammo will rng the game and the one who gets luckier with how he positioned overall unit placements before the card even showed up will win.: you dont get lucky with unit placement. you placed them there

[axmoylotl]

Originally posted by Perplex:

Just ignore it? That's what i do. That way i don't care if i lose or win if i have a good game.

Can't, they make it too prominent.

Originally posted by HolgFromHell:

Yeah, ignore it and play 2vs2.

2vs2 is just 1v1 but no one ever speeds up. Their is very little interaction with your team or the fact it's 2v2

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

Dude before mmr everybody complained that we need mmr.......

people with 50h were facing 1000h players etc....
1 game you could get someone who just strated 1 week ago and next game you can get someone who grinded 100s hours since beta

is that what you want ?
lol

It's still like this? I get matched with people from 100 MMR to 1400 MMR. Games are always either a steamroll or get steamrolled. very rare to get a equal fight.

Originally posted by Easybeans:

Pretty sure this is a competitive game.

I'm sure monopoly is too if you try hard enough.

Originally posted by Arti_Sel:

Originally posted by Easybeans:

Pretty sure this is a competitive game.

He has been told this many times. Pretty sure he is aiming to become the n1 forum troll.

Aren't you the dude who swears he can predict random number generators?

Originally posted by Takyy69:

This is a competitive game with almost no randomness, the better player wins 9/10 games. We need mmr or the games would be extremely boring. I would quit the game if i had to play against bad players all day, its no fun for anyone involved.

What they could do is copy starcraft and hide the mmr of low rated players. If everyone under for example 1900 mmr had their mmr hidden, then the good players would know where they stand and the bad players would not have to deal with ladder anxiety.

This is an insane take. I don't think even the devs would say this game has "almost no randomness". Also you still get paired with people of way lower (and higher) mmr, it doesn't give you even fights, like ever.

Originally posted by PrinzMegahertz:

To my shame, I must admit that I had a mmr of 1600 when it was introduced and now I'm around 1200.

My mmr jumps up and down like 500 points all the time. The MMR system can't figure out where to put me.

Originally posted by Codename Dutch:

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

Unfortunately this is currently not true due too very bad itemcards you can choose.

Parasitic ammo....
if 2 players are even remotley similar in skill parasitic ammo will rng the game and the one who gets luckier with how he positioned overall unit placements before the card even showed up will win.

Also enhancment module is a big problem in higher mmr games.
you upgrade and sell a unit every round and place module in new unit.

Now lets say 1 players unit upgrades and the other one gets 98% xp
-> this means 1 player has 200 more credits than the other for the next round which
is a pretty big deal.

-they really need to change enhancment module to -> items having this module cant be sold
-And just remove parasitic ammo completely

to make it 99% skill based game again

:if 2 players are even remotley similar in skill parasitic ammo will rng the game and the one who gets luckier with how he positioned overall unit placements before the card even showed up will win.: you dont get lucky with unit placement. you placed them there

That's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, unless you are pulling out a calculator and ruler to to figure out the exact distances between units and know exactly which units each of your units will target, and how long it would take a crawler to move from that dead enemy etc... It might as well be random. And it still kind of is with how your units can just miss sometimes. I don't know if I would say these situations are that bad, I don't really mind them too much, but I wouldn't pretend I'm a megamind who "totally calculated that bro". Also you don't even know if you'll get parasitic ammo as an option, so if you were to place units with parasitic ammo in mind, you're just entirely gambling on getting it.

[Sonnenbank]

Originally posted by Codename Dutch:

you dont get lucky with unit placement. you placed them there

Ah you place your entire board for 4-5 rounds so that you will profit from parasitic ammo
in case it shows up ?

LOL

Placing your units for a card that might or might not show up is for sure not "skill"

On topic:

MMr is great
I came back after 4,5 months break and had no idea about the new units , about current meta or the new techs...
I lost my first 10 games in a row... and now last 7 games i went 4-3
So MMr does what it should...

you get matches vs oponnents around your skill level

[Takyy69]

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

Originally posted by Codename Dutch:

you dont get lucky with unit placement. you placed them there

Ah you place your entire board for 4-5 rounds so that you will profit from parasitic ammo
in case it shows up ?

LOL

Placing your units for a card that might or might not show up is for sure not "skill"

On topic:

MMr is great
I came back after 4,5 months break and had no idea about the new units , about current meta or the new techs...
I lost my first 10 games in a row... and now last 7 games i went 4-3
So MMr does what it should...

you get matches vs oponnents around your skill level

Come on, its not luck that determines unit positioning. You place your units from round 1 onward so you best can utilize the good cards if they come up. You spread out so not everyone gets AoE by skill cards and you have a plan if the strongest cards like cheaper balls, assault fang, mass produced rhino or parasitic come up.

To prepare for the parasitic card you build and level up at least 1 unit that can use parasitic well, like the mustang. Its not a big investment to do this even if the parasitic dont show up, you can sell units for 100% back if you dont tech them. And the mustang is good with other items as well, damage items can be better than parasitic in many situations.

[Takyy69]

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That's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, unless you are pulling out a calculator and ruler to to figure out the exact distances between units and know exactly which units each of your units will target, and how long it would take a crawler to move from that dead enemy etc... It might as well be random. And it still kind of is with how your units can just miss sometimes. I don't know if I would say these situations are that bad, I don't really mind them too much, but I wouldn't pretend I'm a megamind who "totally calculated that bro". Also you don't even know if you'll get parasitic ammo as an option, so if you were to place units with parasitic ammo in mind, you're just entirely gambling on getting it. [/quote]

Checking who targets who is the basics of the basic, and after you play alot you will get an intuitive feel for every units speed and range so you will know where to place them, its not random and its not hard to do. Making the enemy miss and forcing them to target the wrong unit is how you play this game. Look at how the units preform in the battle. You see your crawlers feeding an enemy vulcan? place a rhino infront of the crawlers to tank or sell your crawlers, its not hard.

The enemy has units that work well together? Place units on the flank to split his units in half.

The enemy has counters for your unit ready? Use the mobile beacon to move your unit in another direction on the battlefild.

[Arti_Sel]

Originally posted by Sonnenbank:

Originally posted by Codename Dutch:

you dont get lucky with unit placement. you placed them there

Ah you place your entire board for 4-5 rounds so that you will profit from parasitic ammo
in case it shows up ?

LOL

Placing your units for a card that might or might not show up is for sure not "skill"

Did your parents or your school never teach you to prepare for a rainy day?

Noob response - "so you prepare for rain in case it shows up, LOL it's complete rng you stupid!"

Normal person - "I own an umbrella"

1337 - "I setup my roof to collect rainwater into a barrel"

Originally posted by Takyy69:

Good advice

Keep in mind that these noobs aren't asking for advice and they don't deserve it. They are here to vent about non-issues and say outrageous ♥♥♥♥.