Mustangs missle protection

[mortis7]

Yay or nay?
I feel like I need twice the amount of mustangs vs stormcallers to actually be safe from them, isnt really economically viable

[♿HesMad--->]

when they shoot missiles they stop shooting everything else....so they suck

[Dauntless Duelist]

if you're using mustangs for antimissile you aren't using mustangs for anything else. Don't try to get them to do both AA and antimissile. And yes, you need more Mustangs than they have Stormcallers to actually counter the Stormcallers. I recommend balling up all of your Mustangs on one side, or just not using antimissile Mustangs. Even antimissile War Factories struggle vs decent numbers of Stormcallers.

[Abradolf Linkler]

you don't need more mustangs then stormcallers, they can interrupt 100% of the shots if they are close enough and like 60% if they aren't, upgraded range+ anti misslie they counter them 1 for 1.

It doesn't seem worth it -except- they can still counter a level 3 stormcaller at level 1 if they have those upgrades and you place them in a way where they don't have to tank. Also their uptime on purely shooting at missiles isn't 100%, SC vs mustang group 1 on 1 the mustangs will kill the stormcallers after a few intercepted volleys. ( meaning there is definitely a portion of their time where they are shooting at enemies and not missiles).

There are other ways to counter stormcallers but mustangs do work as long as you're willing to give up 60% of their damage( only until missiles stop firing though) and they aren't really worth spamming for damage anyways because they do zero to anything with armor. They do wreck air units though... I think mustang is a good unit just don't try to spam them for damage.

[Mivo]

If my opponent goes overboard with Stormcallers and it becomes a problem, I'll eventually build War Factories with AA.

Mustangs haven't really worked well for this purpose. Like others said, they'll stop doing anything else, and they're less efficient than they used to be a number of patches ago.

[Abradolf Linkler]

They work, but you are right there is other options. They are not even the most effective option unless enemy is also fielding wasps and phoenix, then they are kinda awesome.

I wasn't trying to say using mustangs for this is better then ( insert whatever here) just that it's a misconception that it doesn't work. I have tested it.

4 stormcallers at any level with any upgrades you want can be 100% countered by 4 level 1 mustangs with range and anti missile, and they will actually kill the stormcallers after a few volleys. I'm only mentioning it because the general consensus is that this doesn't work, it does though test it yourself... is it optimal? Only in specific situations, but it works.

Edit: P.S , they can also counter sentry missiles early game I'm 90% sure... but didn't really focus on paying attention to that.

[Abradolf Linkler]

Actually after further testing I made one error, stormcaller rate of fire upgrade beats 1 squad of mustangs. Looks like it takes 1.5 mustang groups to counter a stormcaller that has it. ( the mustangs can still be level 1 though)

[Abradolf Linkler]

A little further testing because i enjoy this kinda stuff, a group of level 1 mustangs with just missile defense upgrade can handle a sentry missile 100% of the time before it hits them, about half the time they seem to be able to handle 2 of them at once.( that might be because of positioning though but I tried to place 2 missiles on top of each other for each attempt). 3 missiles kills them every time though.

[Commander Tom]

Originally posted by Abradolf Linkler:

They work, but you are right there is other options. They are not even the most effective option unless enemy is also fielding wasps and phoenix, then they are kinda awesome.

I wasn't trying to say using mustangs for this is better then ( insert whatever here) just that it's a misconception that it doesn't work. I have tested it.

4 stormcallers at any level with any upgrades you want can be 100% countered by 4 level 1 mustangs with range and anti missile, and they will actually kill the stormcallers after a few volleys. I'm only mentioning it because the general consensus is that this doesn't work, it does though test it yourself... is it optimal? Only in specific situations, but it works.

If you want I will elaborate a bit on this.

On paper it works yes. Now in reality... Are you really going to build 4 mustangs when the opponent already has 4x stomrcallers?

Are you going to build mustangs early against the stormcallers and feed your opponent 4-5 waves and then do the anti rocket upgrade? You see where I'm going with this?

If your opponent builds storms, you want to counter it hard and straight away. You build one air unit instead of building x 4 mustangs + tech. It's much more efficient, doesn' cost you anything and doesn't take you 4 turns to counter it.


I think most of what people said in this post is pretty accurate.

[KashanCzechs]

With the intro of war factory missle defense and the stand alone missle defense, theres exactly zero reason to pickup mustang missle intercepter.

[Fadeway]

MIssile intercept on mustangs is suicidal. I can only see it as a surprise finisher, or some next level bait where you're trying to make the guy get more storms. Long term you lose as soon as they get an overlord, or more storms, or chaff..

[Polar Test 53]

ITS A TRAP!
for a tech meant to counter arty your better off just eating a few rounds instead and buying a WF or just using shields and MI turrets instead.
it makes your stangs very easy to counter. making you buy this tech is a counter to mustangs in itself funny enough avoid this tech if you plan on using stangs.