Mechabellum

Mechabellum

Surrey Jun 13, 2023 @ 9:56am
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I am a top level player and created a Mechabellum website
All units with opinions on tech choices: https://mechamonarch.com/unit/

Unit tier list: https://mechamonarch.com/guide/mechabellum-unit-tier-list/

Unit counter list: https://mechamonarch.com/guide/mechabellum-counters/

Best starting specialists: https://mechamonarch.com/guide/mechabellum-starting-specialists/

Rating of reinforcement cards: https://mechamonarch.com/guide/mechabellum-card-guide/

Hope it helps someone! This game is the best game I have encountered in a long time. I really want to see it grow and succeed.

(Edited some more guide links)
Last edited by Surrey; Jul 6, 2023 @ 11:56pm
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Sonnenbank Jun 13, 2023 @ 12:10pm 
Very nice !
thx for the effort <3
Surrey Jun 14, 2023 @ 9:36am 
Wow thanks for the awards :D more stuff to come in the future for sure
Kris Jun 15, 2023 @ 3:05am 
Why did you rate Scorching Flames over Ignite in the Vulkan guide?

If my math is right, then Ignite is better in most relevant situations and 50 res cheaper:

Kiic pointet out that my math is indeed wrong, the attack rate is 0,1/sec

Scorching Flames vs sledges:
88+110 (88*1,25) = 198 dps
88+110 (88*1,25) = 198*10 = 1980 dps

Ignite vs sledges
88+195.84 (3264 *0,06) = 283.84 dps
88*10 + (3264 *0,06 = 195.84) = 1075.84 dps

This is lev 1 and as damage and hp growth is proportional there will be no difference on equal level. Against lower level units Scorching Flames scales better , while against higher level units Ignite scales better.

Scorching Flames is better against crawlers and mustangs,but vulkans are already good enough against them. While Ignite makes vulkans better aganist tanky units and mildly effective against giant units.

The only use case for Scorching Flames i see is lev 3 Fangs with shield, lev 5 crawlers from cards and shields but using vulkans to break shields instead of suporting them with shield-breakers seems wasteful to me.

Has Scorching Flames a use i do not see?

An breakdown of all hp/damage breakpoints would be nice to have as a guide, but also ton of work.
Last edited by Kris; Jun 15, 2023 @ 8:15am
Sonnenbank Jun 15, 2023 @ 3:39am 
edit.... saw you did sorching flames math right.. just looked strange
could have just used 88* 2,25 for + 125%
Last edited by Sonnenbank; Jun 15, 2023 @ 3:46am
Surrey Jun 15, 2023 @ 4:13am 
Good point. The numbers can change so rapidly in the game as it's constantly being updated that i don't want to keep updating too specific content all the time. It would be really useful. You can also get lost in the numbers as the battlefield is pretty complex often.

I tested a "real life" scenario just now. It was like lev 2 vulcan+2x crawler + marksman vs 3x lev 2 steel ball + 3x crawler. With scorcing flame, the vulcan team defeated the enemy in like 20sec (i use vulcan mostly vs steel balls apart from the obvious stuff and this kind of rush is just the scenario). With ignite it defeated them in like 24sec. But it seemed to work really similar and the ignite is 50 cheaper.

I will try it more in game, might be better sometimes. Scorching flame stacks with damage items and if you have 2 vulcans shooting the same target (i sometimes have vs these crazy steel ball all ins) the ignite will not stack

Edit: tested a bunch of other scenarios and scorching flame outperformed significantly
Last edited by Surrey; Jun 15, 2023 @ 6:14am
Kiic Jun 15, 2023 @ 4:57am 
Originally posted by Kris:
Scorching Flames vs sledges:
88+110 (88*1,25) = 198 dps

Ignite vs sledges
88+195.84 (3264 *0,06) = 283.84 dps

Your math is wrong, vulcan has an attack rate of 0.1 sec .

Base vulcan = 88*10 = 880 dps
scorching flames vulcan = (88+110)*10 = 1980 dps
Ignite vs sledges = 88*10+3264*0.06 = 1075.84 dps

And scorching flames will scale with items and level up.
Ignite is better vs other Giant but you should not use vulcan to deal with other Giant imo.
Last edited by Kiic; Jun 15, 2023 @ 4:59am
Kris Jun 15, 2023 @ 5:24am 
Originally posted by Kiic:
Originally posted by Kris:
Scorching Flames vs sledges:
88+110 (88*1,25) = 198 dps

Ignite vs sledges
88+195.84 (3264 *0,06) = 283.84 dps

Your math is wrong, vulcan has an attack rate of 0.1 sec .

Base vulcan = 88*10 = 880 dps
scorching flames vulcan = (88+110)*10 = 1980 dps
Ignite vs sledges = 88*10+3264*0.06 = 1075.84 dps

And scorching flames will scale with items and level up.
Ignite is better vs other Giant but you should not use vulcan to deal with other Giant imo.
so i was missing the attack rate
makes sense, thanks
PrinzMegahertz Jun 15, 2023 @ 1:43pm 
Originally posted by Surrey:
All units with opinions on tech choices: https://mechamonarch.com/unit/

Unit tier list: https://mechamonarch.com/guide/mechabellum-unit-tier-list/

Unit counter list: https://mechamonarch.com/guide/mechabellum-counters/

Hope it helps someone! This game is the best game I have encountered in a long time. I really want to see it grow and succeed.

Nice! Saw it on reddit without the ability description and this addition makes the guide even better.

That being said, I think the icons are currently not assigned correctly. For example, if you open the hacker, the multiple control ability has the green checkmark even though you mention that it's pretty bad.
Garuda One Jun 15, 2023 @ 3:16pm 
This is cool. Well done!
Surrey Jun 17, 2023 @ 12:39am 
Originally posted by PrinzMegahertz:
Originally posted by Surrey:
All units with opinions on tech choices: https://mechamonarch.com/unit/

Unit tier list: https://mechamonarch.com/guide/mechabellum-unit-tier-list/

Unit counter list: https://mechamonarch.com/guide/mechabellum-counters/

Hope it helps someone! This game is the best game I have encountered in a long time. I really want to see it grow and succeed.

Nice! Saw it on reddit without the ability description and this addition makes the guide even better.

That being said, I think the icons are currently not assigned correctly. For example, if you open the hacker, the multiple control ability has the green checkmark even though you mention that it's pretty bad.

The checkmarks are meant to indicate what technologies you should equip to the unit. As some units have 5 techs available and 3 of them are bad, some bad technologies need to be equipped. Most of them, like the hacker's multiple control, have some rare situations where it's useful. In the texts I explain in which situation you should buy it for the units and what should be your 1st and 2nd buy. Maybe it's confusing but that's how it is now :)
Siger Jun 23, 2023 @ 6:32pm 
"Written by Surrey
With every keystroke and calculated maneuver, Surrey weaves a mesmerizing tapestry of mastery and strategy, transcending the boundaries of imagination and commanding the very essence of the digital arena. Their dexterity and precision form an ethereal symphony, as they navigate the labyrinthine complexities of Mechabellum with unparalleled finesse."

this bit made me cringe to the very depths of my soul
Surrey Jul 8, 2023 @ 5:59am 
Added some more guides to the original post
PanicCheck Jul 8, 2023 @ 10:52am 
Originally posted by Siger:
"Written by Surrey
With every keystroke and calculated maneuver, Surrey weaves a mesmerizing tapestry of mastery and strategy, transcending the boundaries of imagination and commanding the very essence of the digital arena. Their dexterity and precision form an ethereal symphony, as they navigate the labyrinthine complexities of Mechabellum with unparalleled finesse."

this bit made me cringe to the very depths of my soul

I was also amused by this. Still nice work on the guide. Really helps the community to have some standard references.
Kyle Broflovski Sep 20, 2024 @ 8:49am 
Just stumbled across this. Excellent resources for a beginner like me! Thank you!!
Brave Sir Robin Sep 20, 2024 @ 11:14am 
Originally posted by Kyle Broflovski:
Just stumbled across this. Excellent resources for a beginner like me! Thank you!!
He hasn't updated this in a long time now. There's a lot of outdated info on there now, and opinions of units and techs that were from a meta that no longer exists.
Last edited by Brave Sir Robin; Sep 20, 2024 @ 11:15am
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