Prehistoric Kingdom

Prehistoric Kingdom

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1v4n94 2018 年 5 月 31 日 下午 10:24
My suggestions (+ wishlist) 💖
Before I begin I'd like to say THANKS to the devs for making this project possible! I've always loved animals, and even more the extinct ones... Being able to make our own prehistoric zoos is AWESOME! Let us begin now!

ADDING AQUATIC CREATURES:
Animals like Mosasaurus hoffmani, Kronosaurus queenslandicus and Ichthyosaurus communis would be great in the game. I'd like the big ones to be added but also the normal-sized ones, for variety. Even prehistoric sharks would be a great addition to the roster, but that's on you devs to decide. https://youtu.be/WRQ-RSNImIM https://youtu.be/OfZnBV_LFZc https://youtu.be/mkw593Qa19U
ADDING CROCODYLIFORMES:
Species like Deinosuchus rugosus or Sarcosuchus imperator would be fascinating to see in Prehistoric Kingdom! https://youtu.be/8ZR7hRSQt9E https://youtu.be/Vfg69kUt2eI https://youtu.be/qruxOVmSfyY
ADDING FLYING CREATURES:
There are plenty of extinct flying animals to choose from, but the most iconic are withouth doubt, the Pteranodon longiceps and the Argentavis magnificens, among others, of course. Pterosaurs were great, and extremely diverse! https://youtu.be/mfYuvlE78Nk Also, here is a website about pterosaurs, which can be useful for you guys: http://www.pteros.com/pterosaurs.html

ADDING A LARGE CARCHARODONTOSAURID:
Having either Giganotosaurus carolinii or Carcharodontosaurus saharicus in Prehistoric Kingdom would be awesome considering that the only carcharodontosaurid the game has is Acrocanthosaurus atokensis, which is cool, but not as big and iconic as the aforementioned dinosaurs. Plus, we all know that Tyrannosaurus rex needs some competition! ;) https://youtu.be/RSsAa0sG4-M
SANDBOX FEATURE: a toggle for creatures dying of old age on/off
The possibility to toggle animals dying of old age on/off is a MUST-HAVE feature. This would increase our connection with animals even more, plus, it’s sad to watch how our beloved animals die.

TOGGLEABLE/OPTIONAL BLOOD:
The possibility to chose whether to see or not see blood would be nice (for sensitive audiences).

MOD SUPPORT (STEAM WORKSHOP INTEGRATION):
Being able to change skins (textures), sounds (including music) and models would be great!
最后由 1v4n94 编辑于; 2021 年 2 月 6 日 上午 1:12
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Nederbeest 2018 年 6 月 1 日 上午 9:25 
引用自 1v4n94
Here is a website about pterosaurs: http://www.pteros.com/pterosaurs.html

Awesome :D. Thanks!
Jojira 2018 年 6 月 2 日 上午 10:17 
They said they want to include Spinosaurus but prefer to wait 'till we get a clear idea of how it moved and behaved
Nederbeest 2018 年 6 月 2 日 下午 3:16 
They said they want to include Spinosaurus but prefer to wait 'till we get a clear idea of how it moved and behaved

That's probably a wise decision. Many experts are still debating the validity of the current body shape proposed by Sereno and Ibrahim back in 2014. The model they used was actually a mix of several incomplete animals of different ages and sizes. They increased smaller samples to sizes they thought would be plausible for an adult animal. Not everyone was and is convinced of the shape or can agree on locomotion. The front limbs just aren't suited for quadropedal movement. We really need some good fossil evidence.

What we do know for sure is that it was a piscivore (fish eater) and spend most time submerged in water. Behaviour is something that will always be speculative, but we can look at modern analogues who have similar lifestyles. In this case a mix of grizzly and gavial.
最后由 Nederbeest 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 2 日 下午 3:27
1v4n94 2018 年 6 月 2 日 下午 7:40 
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They said they want to include Spinosaurus but prefer to wait 'till we get a clear idea of how it moved and behaved
What we do know for sure is that it was a piscivore (fish eater) and spend most time submerged in water. Behaviour is something that will always be speculative, but we can look at modern analogues who have similar lifestyles. In this case a mix of grizzly and gavial.
Yeah... since it's a reptile I think the devs could use crocodiles as inspiration (taking sunbaths, hunting inside water and small to medium creatures from land, etc). I think it's the same with Suchomimus and Baryonyx though, so the 3 may have had very similar behavior. Iguanas could be a great inspiration too.

It would be great for me to see the Spino take sunbaths and stay out of shadows when on low temperatures, and to see it under the shadows and underwater when on hot temperatures. I don't know how was average temperature in Egypt those days (Cretaceous), but maybe spino had a thicker skin/scales because of water exposure and aquatic fauna. Some pictures below:

https://kids.nationalgeographic.com/content/dam/kids/photos/animals/Dinosaurs/Q-Z/spinosaurus-side.ngsversion.1460134850811.jpg

https://www.agenciasinc.es/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/noticias/el-dinosaurio-carnivoro-gigante-spinosaurus-se-alimentaba-como-un-pelicano/5596722-9-esl-MX/El-dinosaurio-carnivoro-gigante-Spinosaurus-se-alimentaba-como-un-pelicano_image_380.jpg

https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/prehistrico/images/5/5f/Spinosaurus.ngsversion.1467372286021.adapt.1900.1.jpg/revision/latest?cb=20180215170859&path-prefix=es
最后由 1v4n94 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 2 日 下午 7:58
Nederbeest 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 12:22 
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It would be great for me to see the Spino take sunbaths and stay out of shadows when on low temperatures, and to see it under the shadows and underwater when on hot temperatures. I don't know how was average temperature in Egypt those days (Cretaceous), but maybe spino had a thicker skin/scales because of water exposure and aquatic fauna.

I Like that idea. Kinda like a hippo when you think about it. Temperatures during it's time were extremely hot, and it probably had to cope with seasonal droughts.
Jojira 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 2:32 
引用自 Nederbeest
They said they want to include Spinosaurus but prefer to wait 'till we get a clear idea of how it moved and behaved

That's probably a wise decision. Many experts are still debating the validity of the current body shape proposed by Sereno and Ibrahim back in 2014. The model they used was actually a mix of several incomplete animals of different ages and sizes. They increased smaller samples to sizes they thought would be plausible for an adult animal. Not everyone was and is convinced of the shape or can agree on locomotion. The front limbs just aren't suited for quadropedal movement. We really need some good fossil evidence.

What we do know for sure is that it was a piscivore (fish eater) and spend most time submerged in water. Behaviour is something that will always be speculative, but we can look at modern analogues who have similar lifestyles. In this case a mix of grizzly and gavial.

There isn't any debate about the proportions of the Spinosaurus anymore tho, what we don't know is how it moved like
Nederbeest 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 3:50 
There isn't any debate about the proportions of the Spinosaurus anymore tho, what we don't know is how it moved like

Hmm... Let's take a look at the specimens we found:

BSP 1912 VIII 19: Incomplete original (holotype) specimen consisting of; some bits of the lower jaw, some vertebrae, neural spines, ribs, teeth and gastralia. This one was destroyed and lost during the bomming of Berlin at the end of WWII.

NMC 50791: Incomplete specimen consisting of a vertebra

MNHN SAM 124: Incomplete specimen consisting of a partial snout

BM231: Incomplete specimen consisting of a partial dentary

UCPC-2: Incomplete specimen consisting of the small bits of nasal crest from the region between the eyes.

MSNM V4047: Incomplete specimen consisting of the snout region

FSAC-KK 11888: Partially complete subadult found and described by Ibrahim (2014). This consists of cervical and dorsal vertebrae, some neural spines, a complete sacrum, femora, tibiae, pedal phalanges, caudal vertebra, several dorsal ribs and fragments of skull. Hindlimb region seemed disproportionately small compared to the rest of the body (but considered valid by most). This specimen was used together with other finds and material for the construction we see nowadays.

MNHM.KK374 to.KK378: Incomplete specimens consisting of some skull bones (quadrates). Different morphology suggest their could have been more than one Spinosaurid in Morocco.

There are a couple more, but it's mostly the same fragmentary bits and pieces we see mentioned above.

If you look at the evidence you see that it's not much to go on. It's mostly teeth, ribs, spines and some bits of hindlimb material. The last one is interesting as it hints at different Spinosaur species in the same region (although inconclusive).

The frontlimb region is largely unknown, but they have based this on other Spinosaurids like Suchomimus and Baryonyx. I am open minded though, but also wary of believing the current construction at face value as it's still based on incomplete material.

We need more specimens to be sure. The latest find (not mentioned above as it's really recent) also consisted of a foot claw (*) of a small juvenile.

(*) correction made thanks to the observation and valid remark of (DLG) Gojiratheking106
最后由 Nederbeest 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 8:22
Jojira 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 4:23 
引用自 Nederbeest
We need more specimens to be sure. The latest find (not mentioned above as it's really recent) also consisted of bits of hindlimb material of a small juvenile.

It didn't have any hindlimb material, it was just a foot claw
Nederbeest 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 4:27 
It didn't have any hindlimb material, it was just a foot claw

I stand corrected, thank you.
最后由 Nederbeest 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 4:42
1v4n94 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 7:55 
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...regarding Spinosaurids:

Semi-aquatic adaptations in a spinosaur from the Lower Cretaceous of Brazil
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0195667117305153
In a section of the article it says "Extreme bone compactness (osteosclerosis) was present in Brazilian Spinosaurinae"; that would imply that Spinosaurids' bones were strong enough to withstand their hosts' weight, so walking on hind legs is probably something the Spinosaurus aegyptiacus could have accomplished too, in my opinion.
最后由 1v4n94 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 7:58
Nederbeest 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 8:14 
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In a section of the article it says "Extreme bone compactness (osteosclerosis) was present in Brazilian Spinosaurinae"; that would imply that Spinosaurids' bones were strong enough to withstand their hosts' weight, so walking on hind legs is probably something the Spinosaurus aegyptiacus could have accomplished too, in my opinion.

There we go. Good observation. It would definitily help with handling the weight of the animal (and for staying submerged under water), but balance is also important. Luckily many theropod dinosaurs have a handy aid, a long muscular tail.

It's all pieces of a big puzzle, we just need to find the missing ones :) . Isn't paleontology exiting? :D Even though we are no trained experts, if you're observant enough you can actually still make interesting observations and plausible explanations/speculations.

Since we haven't found much in the frontlimb department for Spinosaurus yet, it makes me wonder if this could have been reduced in size as well? It's a theory, but looking at other big theropod carnivores we always see a pattern of reduced front limbs size in later species. Could this be also the case for one of the last and biggest Spinosaurid? Food for thought.
最后由 Nederbeest 编辑于; 2018 年 7 月 21 日 上午 4:43
Nederbeest 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 10:02 
By the way, sorry that your second version of the wishlist got turned into another rant on Spinosaurus. (:-]

It's starting to become a weird recuring pattern... XD
最后由 Nederbeest 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 3 日 上午 10:03
1v4n94 2018 年 6 月 6 日 上午 6:16 
引用自 Nederbeest
sorry that your second version of the wishlist got turned into another rant on Spinosaurus. (:-]
Your comments were nothing but interesting, buddy. Also, I decided to "delete" my old wishlist to make a fresh one, much more specific (to be honest, the game will apparently have a good variety in animals, but I think it needs to have the above to be even better). ☺

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A GIANT “CROCODILE” such as Deinosuchus rugosus, Sarcosuchus imperator or Purussaurus brasiliensis.
Those beasts were terrifying! At least the Deinosuchus is a MUST have!
最后由 1v4n94 编辑于; 2018 年 10 月 31 日 下午 8:30
Nederbeest 2018 年 6 月 7 日 上午 12:31 
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A GIANT “CROCODILE” such as Deinosuchus rugosus, Sarcosuchus imperator or Purussaurus brasiliensis.
Those beasts were terrifying! At least the Deinosuchus is a MUST have!

They had to be. They were hunting and eating dinosaurs. Animals that weigh multiple tons!

Can you imagine? Some hapless duckbills drinking at the water's edge, when suddenly, WHAM! a twelve meter long crocodile lunges out of the water grabbing one by the neck and pulling the honking and terrified 3 ton creature into the murky depths to be drowned and devoured!

That would be a terrifying sight to behold indeed.
最后由 Nederbeest 编辑于; 2018 年 6 月 7 日 上午 12:42
Jojira 2018 年 6 月 7 日 上午 2:35 
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Those beasts were terrifying! At least the Deinosuchus is a MUST have!

They had to be. They were hunting and eating dinosaurs. Animals that weigh multiple tons!

Can you imagine? Some hapless duckbills drinking at the water's edge, when suddenly, WHAM! a twelve meter long crocodile lunges out of the water grabbing one by the neck and pulling the honking and terrified 3 ton creature into the murky depths to be drowned and devoured!

That would be a terrifying sight to behold indeed.

Their primary prey were turtles
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