thank you KT Racing and Bigben

[Chopp3r777]

the reviews for V-Rally 4 arent really that great, many players critizise the game based on comparisons with other rally titles and even sim-games (which is unfair in my opinion)

especially since this game didnt have the huge budget other titles had (so its understandable that some stuff from the latest WRC games was re-used in this)

thats why i wanted to say thank you for VR4. despite it not being the "perfect game" (whatever that is) i really love the game. car choice, stage design, audio-visual-experience, performance, im simply impressed and very happy with everything you delivered.

i hope the game will do financially well for you and gather many fans!

im looking forward to the upcoming patches and devellopment of VR4 :)


cheers,
a fan

[LaPremierre]

My time to tell a word. I dont agree that its "not perfect game". For me its simply a dream game. In every important aspects its exellent and exceed any expectations. From the one hand, nothing strange: looks like, many basic features here are based on my critical notes. which I proposed in WRC 7 review named "Make the game unplyable again". I sent link to this review to Bigben office, and recieved answer from there. So, for example, the idea of thack generator with road net presented there. But, generally, we have also:

1.Realistic physics. May be, driving itself dont produce for me such pleasure, as I have in Seb Loeb Rally, but in combination with dynamics of the game it looks absolutly ideally. Car weight and, as a result, grip, was reduced, as well as engine force, and ideal balance was found.

Suspension work enforce impression, it also included into model very good. Unfortunately, just this realistic physics scare away dirtists. They get accustomed to railway, and now they cannot fly, only creep. And they name good games "arcade" just for realistic physics, while their railway exercises are "simulation". Something more absurdic impossible to be invented. Its Codemasters' guilt, and, I hope, for the ends The God will punish them for it.

2.The worlds are simply amazing. New graphycs level achieved, and now you must not force yourself to eat uneatable; real feeling of live world we have. For me its absolutly clear, that any codemasters game is much worse. Dirt 4 is simply shameful trash in comparison with it. They have excuse for themselves - track generator, but now we see really good track generator, not so annoying, wich dont spoil the picture.

And tracks are so interesting, multivarious, challenging - and in the same time they now dont consist of traps, with this physics they allow fast moving 10 minutes and more without crashes. Such tracks are ideal also, nothing better to invent.

Also environment.... I can tell, that Russia looks very, very authentic, natural! Many details are very accurate and expressive. Looks like, for other locations the same is true. Really great!

3. Gameplay became much more friendly. No so many sensless penalties for cutting, and most punishments only for your real fault. Now you dont feel yourself as somewhat prisoner, it was what I demanded and its generally done.

4.Every disciplines are great! Buggy - best ever, hill climb - the same! Rallycross also, even gimkhana not bad. True feelings anywhere! Great tracks!...

Thats all absolutly perfect. But, on the other hand, I simply havent some expectations. Didnt believe to this guys, because although I liked WRC 5 very much, after that they made worce - I thought they will continue with it. So, I was wrong! They can, and they did! It really delight.

Of course, some problems present. They deal mainly with gameplay. I described it in special topics: self-destroying carreer regime, sometimes idiotic penalties in finish gates, now - fantastically stupid amd foul railway botes in online challenges. But these problems are not critical, and I hope they will be solved for the ends - now its easy.

I hope also, that the community will gradually increasy, more and more people will find exellent feelings of realistic and beautiful game. Release date not so lucky - people gone to forza horizon... but I believe, that such grat achievements will not be wasted. The succes must come for the ends!

So, thanks for the great game, continue with the same!

[okke_dillen]

I absolutly agree! Great game. Have played 37 hours now and still Iam impressed by the cool worlds and random tracks and many more things!!!

[BBQPizza]

Look its a great game but its broken... A.I times in rally championships have been broken since release and I've given up on a patch... I just play dirt rally since its much much better and even on Masters difficulty i can have sum degree of success, here in v-rally u can only play 1-3 stage rallies (cause the longer ones are broken)...

[LaPremierre]

Originally posted by kurn:

Look its a great game but its broken... A.I times in rally championships have been broken since release and I've given up on a patch... I just play dirt rally since its much much better and even on Masters difficulty i can have sum degree of success, here in v-rally u can only play 1-3 stage rallies (cause the longer ones are broken)...

You simply have to teach youself fly, not creep. Here driving based on free sliding. Understand, that entering turn you must release brakes as well as gas, and then correct with wheel with slight gas and brake touches. Then, at exiting - throttle well. If you will be able to do it, you will recieve great enjoyment and STOP play any dirt, because it squalid. Look my videos in neighbout topics and LISTEN how I work with gas.

[Geamandura]

Originally posted by kurn:

Look its a great game but its broken... A.I times in rally championships have been broken since release and I've given up on a patch... I just play dirt rally since its much much better and even on Masters difficulty i can have sum degree of success, here in v-rally u can only play 1-3 stage rallies (cause the longer ones are broken)...

We all agree the AI times are horrendous, but I'd take that with VR 4's perfectly functioning, ballet rallying, dream graphics, memorable tracks, rather than the other way around. In this case you play and the fun is your own, you just don't have the "fun" of beating AI on a scoreboard, big deal.

[okke_dillen]

I have to mention the Track generator. AAAWWEESOME Work! Still fun to drive in the big scenarios and still challenging, because every time it´s different. Compared to Dirt 4, you did it all right. The trackgenerator there is absolutly boring...

Fun at Japan. There is only a 2 % Offroad track. Never had this in the genrated tracks, but only on this one fix track.

Played about 150 Hours now. Thank you! The game would have needed more promotion. It deserves it!!!

[Geamandura]

Yeah, more promotion and it really needed more love after launch from the devs. For example letting us drive any car type on any track. Or at least the gymkhana cars on hillclimb. You'd double the play time with ONE SIMPLE TRICK (game devs hate him).

It's so sad to see this game basically abandoned by the devs, they don't even remove the hack time records on hillclimb (many 10-15 second records there).

[Revenger210]

Originally posted by geamANDura:

Yeah, more promotion and it really needed more love after launch from the devs. For example letting us drive any car type on any track. Or at least the gymkhana cars on hillclimb. You'd double the play time with ONE SIMPLE TRICK (game devs hate him).

It's so sad to see this game basically abandoned by the devs, they don't even remove the hack time records on hillclimb (many 10-15 second records there).

Oh man, as much as I'd love that too, from personal knowledge I know that it was impossible to do that re: mixing the car types with the tracks. That's because of licensing and brands dictating how their cars are presented in-game, like certain environments only for certain cars, and the like :/

I'd personally love more Canada-style maps, maybe for the existing tracks. I'd love to be able to explore China or Kenya in-game :D

[LaPremierre]

In SLRE at least hill climb cars, including SX4, being used well at rally stages.

[okke_dillen]

I agree with the open exploration. I would love that too. The szenarios seem to we so well outworked. But developers usually don´t open szenarios that are not made to play open. Mostly because they fear bad pictures from not so well developed parts of the szenario. That was the case by World Racing and the crash time games too.

[zissakos1]

Originally posted by LaPremier:

I sent link to this review to Bigben office, and recieved answer from there.

How exactly did you do that?

[LaPremierre]

Originally posted by zissakos1:

Originally posted by LaPremier:

I sent link to this review to Bigben office, and recieved answer from there.

How exactly did you do that?

In January, as I recall. (2018).

[JohnRampa]

Funny, I sent them email about broken Flatout 4 achievement on PC and never heard back. Neither did anyone reporting the same issue on the forums.

[CalUKGR]

Originally posted by geamANDura:

It's so sad to see this game basically abandoned by the devs, they don't even remove the hack time records on hillclimb (many 10-15 second records there).

It's Big Ben all over - they do this every time. Bang 'em out and abandon 'em. I only got this on PC because I found a Steam Key for £7.50. At that price, I reckon this game is just about worth it. It's a shame - if BB could only stay loyal to their own products and invest a bit into after-market patching, polishing and meaningful DLC... well, it would make all the difference. V-rally 4 is, at best, a mid-tier game. It could have been much more, but - clearly - BB are not interested in taking their work to the next level. All of this is what is known as 'an opinion'.

[Chopp3r777]

well now after all that time since launch, i agree. i still like the game (although its the only rally-game that gives me motion-sickness, probably cause of the stupid moving ui-elements), but it flopped hard and for good reason i guess.

it will probably sell quite good on switch since its the only rallygame on that system. but that abandoning is just painfull. sadly codemasters isnt any better, they charge for recycled tracks from dirt rally and copy/pasted 90% of the vehicles and tracks from dirt 4 into their new game.


thats why i started playing old rally games again. Colin Mcrae Rally 3, WRC Rally evolved, Richard Burns Rally. all better then anything that comes out today anyways.

oh well...

i should really delete this thread..