Heat vs. Outlaws of the Old West

[Syff]

Recently I wrote a little article regarding Heat and Outlaws of the Old West.
Check it out[angry-mob.com]

After having played both games (keeping Outlaws playtime within the refund timeframe), I have to say Heat is way better. Looking forward to the future updates.

How about you guys? Have any of you played both games? If so, what do you think?

[Schudack]

Some feature of Outlaws like fishing, waggons, Bounty would be nice to have in Heat. Anyways Heat is the better cause of its deeper gameplay and its better graphics.

[azertyuio]

Same here Syff. Im really enjoyind Heat so far but wanted to try outlaws... well I finished the whole crafting tree in 2hrs, got 200 iron from my goldmine, tamed a horse in 1min, built my ugly wood log house in 30min...and then what else? exploring! well the map is pretty big but its always the same generated environment, graphics are not that beautifull than Heat and the world feel just empty. Also with Outlaws I dont feel at all this western vibe Im enjoying with Heat.
So for me everything is way more interesting in Heat, hunting, farming, buiding, exploring, trading etc... I would say Outlaws is an ok game for kids or ppl who never played survival and just want to have some fun 2hrs a week.
@Schudack there is a bounty system in Heat which is pretty cool, you can access it via the daily gazette. This gazette(bounty trading season gambling etc), the skills tree and the shipping bin are amazing and that is for me few of the reasons why HEAT IS THE BEST SURVIVAL GAME ATM.
Cheers

[Syff]

Great comment @azertyuio, I felt the same when I was playing Outlaw.

And yes @Schudack, a feature like fishing is one of the core features any survival game should have. I am confident that this will be added in a future update!

[M@G1K5KuIL]

Heat beats Outlaws for beautifull graphics and have more things to explore and to do.. outlaws its empty world...

[Scar]

Originally posted by Schudack:

Some feature of Outlaws like fishing, waggons, Bounty would be nice to have in Heat. Anyways Heat is the better cause of its deeper gameplay and its better graphics.

+1

i prefer HEAT, now if HEAT had AI outlaws roaming and stuff, it would be such an amazing, immersive game

[Cougar One]

I just played this for 2 hours. and just requested my refund, This game is so buggy and empty. Were is this content your talking about. I went all the way accross the map didnt see one animal just nothing but trees rocks and occasional river.

[[SK] TTV.OogieBoogieBootyMonster]

Syff touched outlaws, he is a traitor to the Heat community, string him up, lynch him, cover him in tar and feathers.

[[SK] TTV.OogieBoogieBootyMonster]

Originally posted by Cougar One:

I just played this for 2 hours. and just requested my refund, This game is so buggy and empty. Were is this content your talking about. I went all the way accross the map didnt see one animal just nothing but trees rocks and occasional river.

Animals appear rare, but if you use Hunter's chew, you can find them easily, also on our server, we don't seem to have that issue with animals being far in-between. With these games, sometimes its best to team up with others who can teach you how it works, when jumping into the game headfirst solo, it can take a little time to figure it out, but that is with all games.

[Lambpage]

I have to agree with you, Heat is the better game. I think there's not as many people playing heat due to the system requirements.

[Zalzany]

To be fair Heat has more things done, and the other I got as well and well its so alpha you instantly unlock everything. I mean its like a year behind compared to Heat right now...

[Zalzany]

Originally posted by Cougar One:

I just played this for 2 hours. and just requested my refund, This game is so buggy and empty. Were is this content your talking about. I went all the way accross the map didnt see one animal just nothing but trees rocks and occasional river.

Well you played a giant map game, solo that is meant to be played with others. Yeah you gonna have a ♥♥♥♥ time. Its like playing rust one player its gonna be a boring day for you, only diffrence is the map for this is huge because it has lots of stuff but its meant for MULTIPLE PLAYERS to be on it at once. This dev team likes to make games for lots of people to play on. Issue this is higher rec settings then their old ones so right now till its optimized more lower server counts then they probally want in long haul with such a large map.

You want to run around solo get Outlaws

[A5M0D4Y]

I dare to disagree, both are not compareable as i assume their approach is somehow different.

I played both, with a quite good amount of playtime, hosting community servers, seeing all the beauty and all the ugly things.

I would have liked to get the best from both, maybe they are looking into each other´s games and will copy a bit, time will show which one i then like more and will continue to play.

After patch 9 Heat had gotten worse for myself in many ways, it has the deeper content, make things a little bit better on certain things but bothers me regarding performance and stability. PvE Content like roaming bandits, and many other things would be nice to have, already had made a quite long suggestion thread. The streaming of animals i.e. is not the best way to do it, tied to players in cell, as fast traversing players will see none, the forced spawn via hunters chew is more a workaround to compensate the lack of them being there all the time. Graphics highly depend on taste...i like the character and animal models more in OotOW, ther fauna, trees and so on are better in Heat but also a high fps drop due to density. Weather system? plus for OotOW, Buildung goes to Heat, Farming also.

But what is superior is the fluent gameplay on OotOW as it saves on the fly no immersion breaking Save message! little to no stutters, rubberbanding and lag spikes - This is sth that needs to be addressed in Heat as it has clearly to do with client to server communication as different rigs have the common problems regardless of quality settings etc.

And hey both are EA so they are clearly unfinished products with many things to come and can then be judged when the developer state them are ready for launch. Till this day everthing is open and ones taste is not discussable so who cares play one, both or none as you´d prefer.

Whishing both games the best as it may lay the path for further games to come when publishers and developer see that there is a market out there on PC besides us wanna play RDR on PC also ;)

[Kolljak]

Outlaws has no skill tree everything is ready for you instantly. kinda feels lackluster in progression, while also having a huge amount of backbreaking bugs. every time they patch some they introduce several new ones. but they have a large team and pump updates fast.

While HEAT is taking a while updates are small but the quality of the world is better then outlaws. it has a progression tree that is fairly nice, but missing features hurt it greatly and so does the 15m-30m server save that freezes the game for 5s while it saves, it hurts immersion.

Summery

Outlaws
Quality 2-5
Performance 3-5
Gameplay 1-5
World space 4-5 [alot of it is artifical its smaller then it looks]

Heat
Quality 4-5
Performance 1-5
Gameplay 4-5
World Space 2-5 [alot of map but not alot of flat areas to build on, most taken up by useless city]

[ArchPCGaming]

i only have played HEAT but did a bit of looking into Outlaws before i decided to go with HEAT. Video after video only showed a small amount of features in Outlaws but overall looked very barren. Not just the environment but the game itself as well, didnt look like much to do. I have about 60-ish hours on heat so far, and can say i'm having a great time on there. Just a little small ranch-style place me and my wife have been working on. The only complaints i have with HEAT so far is...

1. Loading in takes forever currently and not always get completely in on first try.
2. The rate in which tamed animals' water/hydration depletes.
3. Saddles and saddle bag decay rates

Other than those things, i believe heat is a great game and one that will keep me entertained for a good while!

[Aldur]

I wish heat had more of a let's build a city feel, everyone builds in secret, wish we could build saloons and other stuff for people to use. And barns and coops. Hopefully it will be a future update.