Gothic 1 Classic

Gothic 1 Classic

JonDiaz Mar 11, 2015 @ 10:11pm
Why Join The Old Camp?
I'm on my first playthrough and I joined up with the old camp. After I got all the focus stones for the water mages I got banished. Is there a point where I'll have access to the Old Camp again for their elite armor or could I have done it a different way and not gotten banished? If you can't avoid this then why ever join the Old Camp? Seems like a waste = /
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Carver Mar 12, 2015 @ 1:06am 
Nah, you getting banished is part of the Old Camp's storyline. There is no way to avoid it.

As for the armor, you should be getting equal or even better armor anyway once you progress a bit further into the story, though you will be able to enter the OC again if you explore enough while being on certain quests for 'Mr. X', who you will be meeting soon.
Oneeyed Mar 12, 2015 @ 3:44am 
Because there is an awesome protection amulett (weapons + 15) in the tower. And you can only get it early on if you join the old camp



Originally posted by PorkNasty:
I'm on my first playthrough and I joined up with the old camp. After I got all the focus stones for the water mages I got banished. Is there a point where I'll have access to the Old Camp again for their elite armor or could I have done it a different way and not gotten banished? If you can't avoid this then why ever join the Old Camp? Seems like a waste = /
Originally posted by Oneeyed:
Because there is an awesome protection amulett (weapons + 15) in the tower. And you can only get it early on if you join the old camp

iirc the Swamp Camp and the New Camp will both have missions early on to send you to meet Gomez. While you're in there, you can roam as freely as you would if you had wanted to join the Old Camp.
Oneeyed Mar 13, 2015 @ 2:30pm 
Of course you can enter the castle regardless what group you have joined but only after you have reached the second chapter of the game. But if you want the amulett in the first chapter than you have to join the old camp (or use some of the exploits to enter the castle without permission).

Originally posted by Tired_David:
Originally posted by Oneeyed:
Because there is an awesome protection amulett (weapons + 15) in the tower. And you can only get it early on if you join the old camp

iirc the Swamp Camp and the New Camp will both have missions early on to send you to meet Gomez. While you're in there, you can roam as freely as you would if you had wanted to join the Old Camp.
Judas Mar 27, 2015 @ 9:38am 
Answer is not that easy folks.
I'll try to stay as far from spoilers that's possible.
Oryginaly in the game you could stay in the old camp and do a lot of bad things with 'em (storyline oryginaly would split for FOUR camps 'till 4 chapter - not only first two chapters beeing unique for various camps)
Same thing goes for becaming a leader of old and swamp camps (i you already finished the game, gonna understand when exacly)
There's a lot of stuff that didn't end up in final product - that's why we're keeping our fingers crossed for remastered / finished version of first Gothic finally come out. (my only hope is to toggle option with oryginal graphic)
Morgannin Mar 28, 2015 @ 9:11am 
If you want to try the Golden Mod, it allows you to stick around with the Old Camp a little longer in the story, and I think you can gain access to the best Guard armor, but I can't remember for sure. Problem is, I've found the Golden Mod to be impossible to finish because of bugs with the quests not completing properly.
Judas Mar 28, 2015 @ 9:17am 
Originally posted by Morgannin:
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There is a solution for that since 2012
Great modding community created content mod for first game, with add everything that exists in game system but for various reasons isn't implemented to the game.
They aslo added plenty of things that was only speculated to be removed from oryginal game.
Bad for you, I don't belive if this mod exists in language diffrent than polish.
Morgannin Mar 28, 2015 @ 4:02pm 
Originally posted by DJ Feat:
Originally posted by Morgannin:
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There is a solution for that since 2012
Great modding community created content mod for first game, with add everything that exists in game system but for various reasons isn't implemented to the game.
They aslo added plenty of things that was only speculated to be removed from oryginal game.
Bad for you, I don't belive if this mod exists in language diffrent than polish.

Not sure what you mean. What mod are you talking about, specifically? Because that sounds exactly like what the Golden Mod was supposed to be. I'd like to see what mod you are talking about, it could be interesting.
Judas Mar 28, 2015 @ 4:18pm 
I played both golden mod and contend mod for first gothic.
And I can assure you, theese're two completly diffrent things.
Golden mod just adds things that're in game system - even if not implemented in finished product.
Content mod on the other hand, adds everything that golden mod does, but it aslo inplements everything that was talked about for years by developers and people who just made sence of it.

Again, I don't think if this mod exists for english versions

Morgannin Mar 28, 2015 @ 4:24pm 
By the looks of that Content Mod, it appears much more on the scale of Dark Mysteries, actually. Dark Mysteries was a HUGE content mod for Gothic, also from a Polish team, that did get an English translation, but the mod was also too buggy to finish. I hope it eventually gets an English version, since it seems like they're not quite finished even with the Polish one.

I think I'll download it anyway, maybe make a preview of it on YouTube to try and encourage support for an English translation :p
Judas Mar 28, 2015 @ 5:02pm 
Dark mysteries, aye?
For me as a fan since 2003 - this mod is not worth playing.
Beside cheesy dialogues, even more cheesy ending(charts went to the roof on this one).
Won't mention voice acting, with isn't mandatory and didn't came out with finished mod.
Is over blown mod with more attention than it actualy deserve.

If you by any chance speak polish, you have to play ,,czas zapłaty" - with after translation means ,,payback time"
Story follows diffrent character than nameless hero and it plays out arround 4th chapter (when hero first time entered sleeper temple)
This one was made with heart of true fans of the series, they respect source material much more than poziomkaz did.
There're quests with awards you for knowing game through and through, nothing seems bad or over the top.
Dialogues're smart, quest actualy forcing you to think and explore - after playing first hours, I thought to myself, I wouldn't mind this beeing an standalone tittle.

Only problem beside this beeing only in Polish, isn't finished yet - I think they started working on it arround 2007-2008 - and it realy shows, they've done A LOT of good work.

Last edited by Judas; Mar 28, 2015 @ 5:05pm
Morgannin Mar 28, 2015 @ 5:06pm 
I can see your point. Dark Mysteries was grossly over-the-top, but it was a fun diversion from the vanilla game just due to the sheer amount of quests and extra content. I never interpreted it as even trying to be canonical, just really imaginative.

I don't know Polish, unfortunately, but I always try to give these mods a gander and try and spread awareness so that maybe the modders could be encouraged to make subtitled versions in English.
Judas Mar 28, 2015 @ 5:23pm 
Stepping out the subject, you heard about Piranha bytes plans?
As we all know continuing story after gothic 3 is out of the question (for good, 3th one was pretty bad)
There is an fact that says, after they're done with risen (that's mean right now, titan lords is done) They will work on thing they wanted for years now.
Making first gothic as they always wanted, implementing more than any filling mod has.
So if few great mods won't get translated in short future, there's always that, buying fully finished and polished Gothic.
Morgannin Mar 28, 2015 @ 10:20pm 
I have done a lot of speculation on the future of Piranha Bytes. They are a big feature on my YouTube channel, and if you don't mind the plugging, I've compiled everything I know about the new project here on one of my recent videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n3gMEOLCVMY

I don't expect any new Gothic games from them, but I would love it if they could somehow bring back the "dream team" of the original Gothic designers, with a big budget, and produce a remastered version of Gothic that had everything they had to cut out of the original game just to make the release date and budget.
Judas Mar 29, 2015 @ 5:57am 
You barely scoped PB plans in the future, with was mentioned plenty of times in various interviews.
New game in the gothic series is out of a question, no questions about that.
But making first gothic as it oryginale ment to be is a fact.
Don't know if you heard, but after first game beeing released, there supposed to be expansion for it - with later on became something completly diffrent and gothic 2 hit the stores.

One thing that you enlightened me with is Mike's new project, with is great and I'll do my part and support it when it come out ;]
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Date Posted: Mar 11, 2015 @ 10:11pm
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