Access violation >.<

[GoodGirlErika]

Its been awhile gothic :)
wanted to play gothic one again but it always gives me the access violation immediately after starting a new game
Tried disabling steam overlay, starting in xp compatibility mode: nothing
when I google is all I get is old forum threads from 2010/11 and none of the links are still working( there used to be a workaround for the problem which is apparently caused by Nvidia graficcards
Im using geforce GT 630
I already updated the drivers and Nvidia was supposed to have fixed the driver problem way back but the "fixed" drivers are not compatible (and theyr old as hell)
So im at a dead end hoping that someone here has solved the mysteries

I think getting past the access violations is the hardest part of the game :D

[SinSmooth]

Same here, just tried to launch for the first time but it's not just NVidia I have an Intel HD 4000 in my lappy. Thought maybe it was an admin rights thing<some games want it checked on the shortcut> even though I'm an admin account but with the games shortcut/properties there's no run as admin checkbox. I'll check back if I find something.

[SinSmooth]

Ok So I got into the game by going to Program Files(86)/Steam/SteamApps/common/Gothic/system then right clicking the Gothic.exe and giving it admin rights then making a shortcut off of that. Before I would get the error on the new game loading screen so, so far so good.

[GoodGirlErika]

unfortunately doesnt work for me either
another thing is that I cant start the game through the .exe or its shortcut but only through steam
otherwise I get an application load error
and after checking the box to give it admin rights I still get the access violation when I start a new game

[SinSmooth]

Maybe try to disable the steam overlay in steam options then try to start the exe from the folder. Seems there's a ton of different issues for everyone, I got lucky so figured I try and help someone else.

[lPaladinl]

Run your games as admin, change their installation folder to anywhere not within the x86 program files folder, and disable steam overlay.

[GoodGirlErika]

I did all that
-start as admin
-its outside of the programs x86 folder
-disabled steam overlay
- win xp compatibility mode doesnt do anything either
-even verified gamecache and 3 filed were missing/corrupt but still got the same problem
- changed the video scaling in ini file from 0 to 1 (which was supposed to be able to help bud didnt succeed)
-and the thing thet confuses me the most is still that I cant start gothic from the exe istelf(application load error) but only thorugh the seam library


gonna try using a windows xp virtual machine sometime today

[lPaladinl]

Well, an access violation on Windows almost always points to a program attempting to access a file in a location Windows deems to require higher security or Admin priviledges. An Access Violation is when Windows simply refuses the program access in the light of security.

If it's not the game causing issues, it may be your drivers.

In almost all cases, simply running as Admin would fix the problem. Compatability mode should not be required, and in almost all cases, is not suggested unless all else fails. Make sure you are not running the program in compatability mode when attempting different fixes for the problem. Often compatability mode causes more issues than it helps.

[GoodGirlErika]

well I do think it is a problem of the game because the gothic games are the only ones getting this problem this much and as I repeatedly stated all current suggestions are not working and I would even say my main problem is the application load error when I try to play gothic via the .exe

[redeyedraven]

Gothic I and II had this problem since they were released. It only happened occasionally for me, like 1 of 100 times I was running the game. Try getting help on the worldofgothic-forums - they also have an alternate launcher for Gothic I and II that solved a few issues with newer OS.

[ratso]

======================================= UNHANDLED EXCEPTION OCCURED ======================================================
======================================= CRASH INFOS: =====================================================================
GOTHIC 1.08j, Parser Version: 50
User: newname, CPUType: 586, Mem: 0 MB total, 3495 MB free
Startup Options:
=============================================== CALLSTACK : ==============================================================
0023:6FA81BEE (0x00456B00 0x0C362310 0x00000000 0x0087CF90) gameoverlayrenderer.dll, OverlayHookD3D3()+1326 byte(s)
0023:00741226 (0x12B24034 0x13BC8034 0x00000000 0x0A93C31A) GOTHIC.EXE, zCVertexBuffer_D3D::Optimize()+38 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\ZenGin\_Kurt\zRndD3D_Vertexbuffer.cpp, line 310+20 byte(s)
0023:005E4017 (0x007F66DC 0x12B2A274 0x12B24034 0x00000002) GOTHIC.EXE, zCVertexBufferManager::UnlockOpenVertexBuffers()+263 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\ZenGin\_Dieter\zVertexBuffer.cpp, line 387
0023:0060C320 (0x00000001 0x00000000 0x007F66DC 0x0160FB40) GOTHIC.EXE, zCWorld::LoadWorld()+352 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\ZenGin\_Dieter\zWorld.cpp, line 2351
0023:006F470B (0x0160FB40 0x00000000 0x0160FBFC 0x12AD44EC) GOTHIC.EXE, oCWorld::LoadWorld()+731 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\gothic\_Ulf\oWorld.cpp, line 447+20 byte(s)
0023:006561C5 (0x0160FB40 0x0160FB70 0xFFFFFFFE 0x0160FB6C) GOTHIC.EXE, oCGame::LoadWorldStartup()+277 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\gothic\_Ulf\oGame.cpp, line 2935+65 byte(s)
0023:00655505 (0xFFFFFFFE 0x0160FBF8 0x0160FCB4 0x00000011) GOTHIC.EXE, oCGame::LoadWorld()+421 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\gothic\_Ulf\oGame.cpp, line 26800023:00652D44 (0xFFFFFFFE 0x0160FBF8 0x00000000 0x0160FC6C) GOTHIC.EXE, oCGame::LoadGame()+260 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\gothic\_Ulf\oGame.cpp, line 2017
0023:00652D44 (0xFFFFFFFE 0x0160FBF8 0x00000000 0x0160FC6C) GOTHIC.EXE, oCGame::LoadGame()+260 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\gothic\_Ulf\oGame.cpp, line 2017
0023:0042A890 (0x00000000 0x017C48D5 0x017C48D4 0x0160FE84) GOTHIC.EXE, CGameManager::Menu()+2528 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\gothic\_Bert\oGameManager.cpp, line 1439+331 byte(s)
0023:004271F8 (0x007F7038 0x76D34BB7 0x003704F6 0x12AD44EC) GOTHIC.EXE, CGameManager::Run()+1064 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\gothic\_Bert\oGameManager.cpp, line 679
0023:006F627B (0x6B636F4C 0x544F475F 0x00434948 0x01A500B0) GOTHIC.EXE, MainProg()+75 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\gothic\_Ulf\Phoenix.cpp, line 115
0023:00500533 (0x430C00F9 0x5C003A00 0x69005700 0x64006E00) GOTHIC.EXE, HandledWinMain()+963 byte(s), D:\dev\Gothic\current_work\ZenGin\_Carsten\zWin32.cpp, line 772

[Dando]

Try next thing: when Steam is loaded rename or delete file "GameOverlayRenderer.dll". Hope, this will help everyone. But get this file back after playing Gothic for Steam will be reinstalling itself on next start without it (not for long but annoying).

[Raglany]

Thing that will fix it ( At least for me)

Go to
http://forum.worldofplayers.de/forum/threads/1305090-gothic-%C3%BCber-steam-startet-nicht

4th post. Download the patch and playerkit. First install the patch in the correct folder (steam - steamapps - common - gothic) Install the playerkit in the same folder. Then manually go to the folder -> System - double click the Gothic starter.exe. Not the regular one or from steam itself.

Cheers

[GoodGirlErika]

Holy sh** that worked
incredible thanks a lot man

[Raglany]

You're most welcome :) Hope you can look past the outdated graphics, and just let ureself go in the world of Gothic :)

[GoodGirlErika]

Thats no problem at all
Gothic 2 was my first Pc game ever so this is pure nostalgia :)
I was never able to finish gothic 1 though so Im really glad your fix worked