Any way to move cargo on a canoe?

[LOTRooper]

I would love to scour all my islands and gather the goodies to a central base island, but the ability to move cargo in backpacks and side bags, etc. is relatively limited. Can I fit a chest on the back of a canoe? Or join a raft section to a canoe?

[nextgengranny]

No & no, unfortunately. I like your idea of being able to increase the size of the canoe by adding a raft section to it. I think it's also been suggested that perhaps we could use rope to tow such a section, but I can see where that could get messy during a storm.

It may be that the devs simply want to limit what we can accomplish using a canoe, though.

[LOTRooper]

I can see the reasoning behind limiting the abilities of the canoe. It encourages the player to master sailing. When the ability to travel to other clusters is implemented, I could see them making it impossible to get to them by canoe. That would naturally encourage sailing, in order to continue the adventure! As is, considering that paddling is suitable for travel within a cluster, keeping the canoe limited in its size and abilities in order to encourage mastery of the not-yet-fully-necessary sailing skill feels at least a little frustrating. Sometimes I've worked for hours on a dock and a big sailing raft, and am excited to sail, yet the wind is going the exact opposite direction I want and never changes its direction more than 45 degrees.

Hopefully, when travelling between clusters, we will be able to carry a canoe onboard larger rafts as a lifeboat, or tow them behind as a dinghy - to be deployed to scout around in the new cluster before committing the big raft to an island.

[nextgengranny]

The impression I've had is that the raft is intended primarily for covering distances too long to be covered well by canoe, such as traveling to other clusters once they're implemented. Sailing around a cluster can be very enjoyable (as well as very frustrating), but except in terms of the ability to haul cargo, the canoe is generally far more efficient. That could change if the distances between the islands within the clusters is expanded, though.

I do think there's value in sailing now, as it provides us the opportunity to begin learning the techniques associated w/ doing so (unless of course those techniques all end up changing ^^). But for the sake of my sweet sanity, I've stopped being too particular about my destination, & I never hesitate to switch to using a canoe when it serves me better. Using both, depending on what my needs are at the moment, is what currently works best for me.

I'm pretty sure ktoutlaw tried taking a canoe on board a raft at some point, but IIRC, it's not really doable at this point. I agree we should be able to do so (& be given the choice of whether to load it or tow it), for a variety of reasons.

[BushiNeko]

Originally posted by nextgengranny:

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I do think there's value in sailing now, as it provides us the opportunity to begin learning the techniques associated w/ doing so SNIP

Or how to live with your raft two islands away and / or how to not fall off said raft. ;P

Cargo hauling would be nice, but I hope it's not an easy add. IE a chest designed to just be created on raft. A small need to be creative is a good thing. IE figure out how to build storage that works. It's possible now to put chest on rafts, or was. But you of course had to be creative. I read a few post about folks who pulled it off.

[nextgengranny]

The problems w/ putting chests on rafts at present have more to do w/ buggy behavior than anything...clipping through the raft base & constructed walls, "disappearing", & I just read one report that said they were "teleported" back to the island they'd been hauled from. Also, the fact that we have no good way at present to secure them in place.

Built in storage on rafts could be nice; either that, or a way to secure it so it doesn't move around. ("Confining" it w/ railings, etc. hasn't had good results for me, at least so far.) The last time I took a water barrel on board, keeping it from going overboard during rough seas was a distraction I'd rather not have while trying to sail through them, & logically, I wouldn't, because given the opportunity, I wouldn't be sailing w/ loose freight.

[BushiNeko]

Originally posted by nextgengranny:

Built in storage on rafts could be nice; either that, or a way to secure it so it doesn't move around. ("Confining" it w/ railings, etc. hasn't had good results for me, at least so far.)

My thoughts exactly. When I mentioned built in, I was meaning not OP.. IE A CRATE vs a Chest. ;P A simple strap down or you can block it in will be nice.

[Gamers4Gamers Team]

Hello guys,
we plan to work on the issues with the transportation of the objects on rafts in the very near future.

There will be implemented mechanics for hauling cargo attached to a rope.
There will be also a possibility to fasten/secure the objects to the raft base modules.