Grand Tactician: The Civil War (1861-1865)

Grand Tactician: The Civil War (1861-1865)

noco97 Feb 16, 2024 @ 7:18pm
Would you buy map packs as DLC?
I've played other wargames where map packs have been DLC and if I like the game, I usually end up buying them.

I think everyone here has played Bull Run enough times to desire some new maps. Feels like an easy way to enhance the game. Idk how hard creating maps is for the devs, but they seem like they would be fairly straight forward in regards to implementation. I could not image a whole lot of quirks that would take away from the game. Nor do I see a need for a lot of subsequent updates to make them work.

Feels like a fairly straight forward way to generate money and give players a less repetitive expierence. NV especially could use some more variation.
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luftysoldat Feb 16, 2024 @ 7:31pm 
That or just open it up to allow the modding community to create them. Honestly I think what will kill this game quicker than the devs eventually moving on to something else is the fact that they have kept so much of the game locked for any kind of modding. I mean for goodness sakes we can't even add different musket sounds?? It is my hope that when they are finally finish with any further development, they will give up the keys to the castle. If modders can get a hold of it you will see a huge resurgence in revenue for the devs even after its end of life.

But to answer your question, yes I would pay for this.
Olek Feb 17, 2024 @ 12:56am 
If my problem with this game was maps, sure, but it isn't my problem so why would more maps make a difference?, so the AI can be retarded in a new location?
Vasco Feb 17, 2024 @ 2:04am 
Yes.
Blackfyre Feb 17, 2024 @ 2:12am 
Originally posted by Olek:
If my problem with this game was maps, sure, but it isn't my problem so why would more maps make a difference?, so the AI can be retarded in a new location?

Play HQ in the saddle and let's see how smart you are with only First Person perspective and without overhead perspective of troops other than the ones you can see. That's imo the actual game, especially if doing a career. Campaigns are too easy, if you play every battle, you will win easily regardless which side you play.
Somethings Burnin Feb 17, 2024 @ 6:58am 
Once they fix the bugs in the base game and then W&L, I would gladly support map packs or expansions... But without bug fixes this game is broken to me.
noco97 Feb 17, 2024 @ 1:18pm 
Originally posted by Olek:
If my problem with this game was maps, sure, but it isn't my problem so why would more maps make a difference?, so the AI can be retarded in a new location?
I'd rather play the poor AI on new maps than fighting a 5th battle of the Chickahominy each campaign.

Shiloh, Manassas, Chancellorsville, and the Battlefields of Cold Harbor and the Seven Days become very repetitive. I would fork over a few bucks for more maps in a game I greatly enjoy playing.
noco97 Feb 17, 2024 @ 2:02pm 
Originally posted by Blackfyre:
Originally posted by Olek:
If my problem with this game was maps, sure, but it isn't my problem so why would more maps make a difference?, so the AI can be retarded in a new location?

Play HQ in the saddle and let's see how smart you are with only First Person perspective and without overhead perspective of troops other than the ones you can see. That's imo the actual game, especially if doing a career. Campaigns are too easy, if you play every battle, you will win easily regardless which side you play.

I haven't ever lost a campaign unfortunately. Seems like I'll have to give in saddle view a try. Seems a lot more micro intensive but the ai is so terrible that anything to make the game harder is something worth trying.
Alex Feb 17, 2024 @ 5:14pm 
I wouldnt even consider giving another dime to these devs until they prove they can follow through. Just wait until they add in their next half baked idea that takes four months to improve instead of trying to fix the broken one they just finished putting band-aids on.
Olek Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:31pm 
Originally posted by Blackfyre:
Originally posted by Olek:
If my problem with this game was maps, sure, but it isn't my problem so why would more maps make a difference?, so the AI can be retarded in a new location?

Play HQ in the saddle and let's see how smart you are with only First Person perspective and without overhead perspective of troops other than the ones you can see. That's imo the actual game, especially if doing a career. Campaigns are too easy, if you play every battle, you will win easily regardless which side you play.

I don't believe handicapping myself to help the AI is the solution, that would be like cutting off my legs to give a turtle a chance in a race, I would be much happier if the Devs just improved the AI.
Olek Feb 17, 2024 @ 7:34pm 
Originally posted by noco97:
Originally posted by Olek:
If my problem with this game was maps, sure, but it isn't my problem so why would more maps make a difference?, so the AI can be retarded in a new location?
I'd rather play the poor AI on new maps than fighting a 5th battle of the Chickahominy each campaign.

Shiloh, Manassas, Chancellorsville, and the Battlefields of Cold Harbor and the Seven Days become very repetitive. I would fork over a few bucks for more maps in a game I greatly enjoy playing.

That is fine, if you are happy playing poor AI and would like more maps then you respond to the OP with a yes, why you are responding to me is a mystery.
noco97 Feb 17, 2024 @ 10:09pm 
Originally posted by Olek:
Originally posted by noco97:
I'd rather play the poor AI on new maps than fighting a 5th battle of the Chickahominy each campaign.

Shiloh, Manassas, Chancellorsville, and the Battlefields of Cold Harbor and the Seven Days become very repetitive. I would fork over a few bucks for more maps in a game I greatly enjoy playing.

That is fine, if you are happy playing poor AI and would like more maps then you respond to the OP with a yes, why you are responding to me is a mystery.

I am responding because I am the OP
Olek Feb 18, 2024 @ 4:19am 
Originally posted by noco97:
Originally posted by Olek:

That is fine, if you are happy playing poor AI and would like more maps then you respond to the OP with a yes, why you are responding to me is a mystery.

I am responding because I am the OP

LOL, my apologies.
GreatScots Feb 18, 2024 @ 6:19am 
Originally posted by Blackfyre:
Originally posted by Olek:
If my problem with this game was maps, sure, but it isn't my problem so why would more maps make a difference?, so the AI can be retarded in a new location?

Play HQ in the saddle and let's see how smart you are with only First Person perspective and without overhead perspective of troops other than the ones you can see. That's imo the actual game, especially if doing a career. Campaigns are too easy, if you play every battle, you will win easily regardless which side you play.

I really enjoyed playing this way, too. Got a lot of complaints about it on my videos, so I guess people don't enjoy watching other people's videos from that perspective, but I think it levels the playing field with some of the AI's tactical decisions.
GreatScots Feb 18, 2024 @ 6:24am 
Originally posted by noco97:
I've played other wargames where map packs have been DLC and if I like the game, I usually end up buying them.

I think everyone here has played Bull Run enough times to desire some new maps. Feels like an easy way to enhance the game. Idk how hard creating maps is for the devs, but they seem like they would be fairly straight forward in regards to implementation. I could not image a whole lot of quirks that would take away from the game. Nor do I see a need for a lot of subsequent updates to make them work.

Feels like a fairly straight forward way to generate money and give players a less repetitive expierence. NV especially could use some more variation.

I don't think this needs to be a paid DLC. I'd rather they occasionally insert some of their generic maps to stand in for the historical battlefield maps. I would think that would be the lowest effort move to address the problem.
Olek Feb 18, 2024 @ 3:10pm 
Originally posted by GreatScots:
Originally posted by Blackfyre:

Play HQ in the saddle and let's see how smart you are with only First Person perspective and without overhead perspective of troops other than the ones you can see. That's imo the actual game, especially if doing a career. Campaigns are too easy, if you play every battle, you will win easily regardless which side you play.

I really enjoyed playing this way, too. Got a lot of complaints about it on my videos, so I guess people don't enjoy watching other people's videos from that perspective, but I think it levels the playing field with some of the AI's tactical decisions.

I don't think it's fair that I should have to buy the DLC to get a challenge out of this game, I should not need to pay more money only to handicap myself by not being able to watch the battles, it was not required when I played Take Command - 2nd Manassas 18 years ago, and it certainly isn't required when playing any of the Ultimate General games.
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Date Posted: Feb 16, 2024 @ 7:18pm
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