Why are my units leaving cover!

[josephmcmullin]

None of the commanders have initiative and all units are safely behind cover yet when one enemy unit charges, at least 4 of my units leave cover, mess around and then get cut to pieces trying to go back to cover

[crono900]

AI initiative is 'on'. Whenever setting up defensive lines always turn off AI initiative.

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[josephmcmullin]

Did you even read what I said? No unit has initiative on.

[josephmcmullin]

Apologies that was rude. Trust me all AI initiative is off. At the start of battles the first thing I do it turn it off for my army commander and divisional commanders. I'll sit in a wonderful hill top parapet with say 3 units...and one unit charges it, the whole bloody group go nuts, leave cover and then get shot to pieces.

[Fred Sanford]

I think the devs just gave the AI a crazy high charge ability because reasons.

[josephmcmullin]

It's just happened again. No Initiative, artillery and 4 units behind a parapet...one cavalry charge and every single unit leaves position, goes in front of its own parapet and gets shot down and breaks walking back to its defensive position. frustrating to say the least

[crono900]

The only other thing I can think of is maybe a feud... hmmm...this is a puzzler.

Could you get screenshots of prior it happening then some of it happening and post them here, (f12 in-game) or maybe a short video of it happening? This is curious because the only time my units miss behave behind cover are either caused by me forgetting AI Initiative or a feud breaks out.

[Ole "Slim Jolo" the Hobo Hero]

I think I have some idea of what OP is saying, I notice AI will sometimes pursue their targeted enemy even when initiative is off when the enemy begins falling back - I feel like I've notice it when they target something on the edge of their effective range, and will constantly move forward to get a shot off on enemy brigade thinking they need to relocate instead of just disengaging when enemy leaves range. At least in my anecdotal opinion, the times I've noticed my troops annoyingly moving forward without my input, it seems to be related to their range and distance from the units their engaged with falling back and them pursuing for some reason.

I know initiative and feuds are off in my case too, because I have it turned off automatically because I find it pretty frustrating in general, looking away from a battle only to peak back and find your unit has thrown themselves against the enemy for no reason and wasting resources.

[ShouteN]

I have quite similiar problem + my units does not do what i say. For example i say move to flank they do nothing. They are not even in combat. Its a bug or i dont understand something?

[Fred Sanford]

Originally posted by ShouteN:

I have quite similiar problem + my units does not do what i say. For example i say move to flank they do nothing. They are not even in combat. Its a bug or i dont understand something?

How close is the brigade to its Div CO? How close is the Div CO to the Corps CO? Chain of command matters very much in this game.

[ShouteN]

Originally posted by Fred Sanford:

Originally posted by ShouteN:

I have quite similiar problem + my units does not do what i say. For example i say move to flank they do nothing. They are not even in combat. Its a bug or i dont understand something?

How close is the brigade to its Div CO? How close is the Div CO to the Corps CO? Chain of command matters very much in this game.

They are just behind the lines

[ENRL]

units in melee will turn around/walk around and do all weird things thats why u lost the cover for ur unit. This is just one small part on how bugged the melee system is.

[ENRL]

Originally posted by ShouteN:

I have quite similiar problem + my units does not do what i say. For example i say move to flank they do nothing. They are not even in combat. Its a bug or i dont understand something?

Most likely u didnt set them on advance or charge, charge does the job 50% of the time, advance is guaranteed they gonna move but troops move very slowly on advance, troops will stop moving if theres enemies inside their firing range, try set their range to short and move them.

[aceofmace2020]

The only I have found to rectify this is to place any defensive emplacements behind the victory point location. If it is on it or in front of it, the enemy will run up in there like dogs chasing a squirrel. Because I have done everything I can think of to ensure my guys don't take off out of cover and they do it every time!!!

[crono900]

Something you could try is while your men are in cover have them send out their Skirmishers. The skirmishers will slow down and weaken the attacking forces. giving your artillery extra time to bombard the enemy without your main forces taking hits. This would simulate an Advance Guard or Picket.

[aceofmace2020]

Originally posted by crono900:

Something you could try is while your men are in cover have them send out their Skirmishers. The skirmishers will slow down and weaken the attacking forces. giving your artillery extra time to bombard the enemy without your main forces taking hits. This would simulate an Advance Guard or Picket.

You're correct. Along with the strategy I suggested above, I do this as well. It does help.