Practical and Aesthetic: State Flags

[Doug_Dimmadome]

Just a quick note to devs, but how about including state flags along with the national flag to individual regiments on the battlefield? It's both practical, as it allows the user a quick reference what state the troops come from (and perhaps maybe not want to subject them to casualties), as well as pleasing to the eye. Immersion-wise, it's pretty well known most regiments carried both state and national flags with them into battle.

As an aside, perhaps even allow us to customize regimental flags like we customize uniforms? Just some eye candy really, no real affect on the game, but include certain historical flags such as the 69th New York's.

[MICHKA]

Yes, that would be a nice thing.

[Achorena]

That would be great!! and I would also like to have a type of clothing predetermined according to the equipment available in the recruitment state or one defined for each state !!! It would give you a much better view when we create brigades automatically.

[swibtn]

That could be somewhat problematical with the South ?

Just because your research so far hasn't found it , does not mean it didn't exist ?

But so far I haven't found a contemporary state flag for Missouri , Tennessee , Kentucky , or Indian Territory ??

But I love the idea.

Especially given that State Sovereignty and subsidiarity were still very much a thing in 1860 , and not just in the South either.

As far as uniform customization goes -- grrr , the Union needs two Zoauve models , not one. The South needs two Zoauve models , it has zero. Both sides need a Shako model.
Both sides need at least one extra cavalry model.

And , no , kilts didn't appear in the war . But given the sheer number of Celts on both sides , in my opinion a kilt model is not too outrageously far - fetched unhistorical.

Finally , as far as I know neither side fielded battalion - sized Naval Infantry . But I would still like to see a Naval infantry model , again in my opinion not too far - fetched a possibility.

[Wolliver]

Originally posted by swibtn:

That could be somewhat problematical with the South ?

Just because your research so far hasn't found it , does not mean it didn't exist ?

But so far I haven't found a contemporary state flag for Missouri , Tennessee , Kentucky , or Indian Territory ??

Tennessee had a state flag and a battle flag in the Civil War. Confederate Missouri and Kentucky had their own battle flags as well (although I'm sure their use was limited to only certain formations). Indian territory could perhaps use the Cherokee Confederate Braves flag or the Choctaw flag. The only real kicker is Arkansas, that did not have any flag, or proposals for a flag, until the 20th Century (and diamond mines that the flag represents, likewise, weren't discovered until the 20th Century either). Perhaps the Arkansas troops could bear the Van Dorn flag, since they were part of his trans-Mississippi army.

As for those same states siding with the Union, I don't know as much on their heraldry to comment. When in doubt, just use the national flags.

[BullGod]

Originally posted by Doug_Dimmadome:

Just a quick note to devs, but how about including state flags along with the national flag to individual regiments on the battlefield? It's both practical, as it allows the user a quick reference what state the troops come from (and perhaps maybe not want to subject them to casualties), as well as pleasing to the eye. Immersion-wise, it's pretty well known most regiments carried both state and national flags with them into battle.

As an aside, perhaps even allow us to customize regimental flags like we customize uniforms? Just some eye candy really, no real affect on the game, but include certain historical flags such as the 69th New York's.

The problem is, the smallest unit in game is brigade, not regiment. And once your unit becomes veteran, you get to choose additional flag for it.

[MaGicBush]

Definite +1 from me.

[Doug_Dimmadome]

Originally posted by BullGod:

And once your unit becomes veteran, you get to choose additional flag for it.

I have never seen this, can you explain?

[BullGod]

Originally posted by Doug_Dimmadome:

Originally posted by BullGod:

And once your unit becomes veteran, you get to choose additional flag for it.

I have never seen this, can you explain?

During campaign, your units earn experience and you can select perks for them. I think once your unit upgrades perk to level 3, it is considered elite and you get to choose additional battle flag for that unit (there's bunch of historical flags to choose from) Once you do, this brigade has two flags on the battlefield. Icon for that additional flag appears above the perk icon.

Some units in historical battles have them, so you can check it out. For example Iron Brigade in Gettysburg scenario.

[Doug_Dimmadome]

Originally posted by BullGod:

Originally posted by Doug_Dimmadome:

I have never seen this, can you explain?

During campaign, your units earn experience and you can select perks for them. I think once your unit upgrades perk to level 3, it is considered elite and you get to choose additional battle flag for that unit (there's bunch of historical flags to choose from) Once you do, this brigade has two flags on the battlefield. Icon for that additional flag appears above the perk icon.

Some units in historical battles have them, so you can check it out. For example Iron Brigade in Gettysburg scenario.

That's very interesting, I've honestly not gotten far enough into a campaign to see a unit reach level 3, so I'll have to load up Gettysburg and see for myself.

EDIT: Yep, you are correct! It's nice to see they already have what I'll call "veteran flags". I still wish we had more, or perhaps the default was the state but then once reaching veteran they became unique, but the devs are already ahead of me it seems. Thanks for pointing this out!

[Lucian was right]

Problem is, not all states had formalized flags at the time, several didn't even have formalized coat of arms. Which is an issue with states like Iowa, Wisconsin, and Kentucky. Also many that were of the post 13 colonies didn't have flags so you may have to use the state coat of arms.