If this game were called Dream Mommy no one would care

[That Goon Type Shit]

If this game were about homosexual mothers dating each other the threads in this forum would be the *complete* opposite.

There are hundreds of lesbian dating sims on steam and the threads are full of "Nude plz!" "Nude version when!?" ♥♥♥♥♥♥" "This makes my♥♥♥♥♥♥feel nice!"

A gay male dating simulator gets made and its actually good, has a great art style and story, and an angry mob of heterosexual men lose their ♥♥♥♥ing minds so much so they don't even want to look at the VERY SAFE FOR WORK title of the game???

Of very normal looking guys that happen to be homosexual?

Double standards and hypocrisy.

[GinsengSamurai]

EXACTLY!

There are so many lesbian themed games on Steam and I have not seen a single negative thread on any of those games coinciding sexuality and 'agendas'.

[Silver]

That's because the overwhelming majority of steam users worldwide is a demographic comprised of straight males. And straight men do not have a natural aversion reflex when encountering female homosexuality until they either realize that a) they ain't getting any or b) the females involved are actually hideous in appearance. To conclude, your "clever question" is bad and you should feel bad.

[samplexample]

How many lesbian games exist? how many need to exist? do i neven want to know?
the quality control on steam has been falling for years, and this is the sort of thing you get - abandonware, asset flips, and games that cater to niche perversions.

[That Goon Type Shit]

Originally posted by Silver:

That's because the overwhelming majority of steam users worldwide is a demographic comprised of straight males. And straight men do not have a natural aversion reflex when encountering female homosexuality until they either realize that a) they ain't getting any or b) the females involved are actually hideous in appearance. To conclude, your "clever question" is bad and you should feel bad.

The purpose of my topic is to be "clever"

In what world do so many men feel so uncomfortable with their sexuality they feel so threatened by a video game--that has a SWF picture of 2 normal looking guys mind you. It being something theyre not interested in is one perectly fine thing, its something comepletely different for them tocome here to say hate speech and act so intolerant of homosexuality--sorry MALE homosexuality--because theyre not gay and this game "represents" gay guys everytime they see it.

Female homosexuality is treated like a toy people use for their entertainment, and male homosexuality is treated like a plague. Homosexuality is neither of those things and is only viewed differently from each other the by uneducated juvenile people that don't understand what it means to be comfortable with themselves. "It's ok to be gay if youre a woman because im attracted to women, but its wrong to be gay if youre a man because im not"

SO i wont feel bad about my "clever" topic, i feel bad for the double stardards and hypocrisy that sway our society about something that is otherwise not a big deal.

[Silver]

Originally posted by Camp Me Plz <3:

In what world do so many men feel so uncomfortable with their sexuality they feel so threatened by a video game

You're missing the broader picture. Everytime I turn on the tv I see gay. In the news. In a funny tv sitcom. Someone coming out. Something something trans. A drag queen educating kids. A billionare author deciding your favorite wizarding headmaster is gay. Star Wars writers toying with the idea to implement it in their next blockbuster movie. A parent making a viral twitter post about how cool it is that his son is cross dressing. A mom raging on fb how that toy car her daughter picked up was in a store section labeled "boys".

If homosexuals represent <5% of the population, the amount of media presence they have give you the feeling 25% of the population is gay.

Then you begin to wonder who is pushing this.

Then you drift further away into extremism. People don't just get out of bed one morning and decide to be a "hateful bigot", you know. And contrary to liberal indoctrination, people arent "bigots" because they were born that way, grew up homeschooled or have never set foot outside their country.

No, people become bigots the more they are exposed to modern western society. ESPECIALLY when they travel to other countries, see the world, and realize the rest of the world is collectively shaking their heads at this mental illness we as a society are suffering from in the west: the delusion of "being progressive". I grew up multicultural just like everyone else's liberal teachers taught them to. Then I began to pause and think, and realized there is large-scale Pavlovian conditioning going on.

[That Goon Type Shit]

Originally posted by Silver:

Originally posted by Camp Me Plz <3:

In what world do so many men feel so uncomfortable with their sexuality they feel so threatened by a video game

You're missing the broader picture. Everytime I turn on the tv I see gay. In the news. In a funny tv sitcom. Someone coming out. Something something trans. A drag queen educating kids. A billionare author deciding your favorite wizarding headmaster is gay. Star Wars writers toying with the idea to implement it in their next blockbuster movie. A parent making a viral twitter post about how cool it is that his son is cross dressing. A mom raging on fb how that toy car her daughter picked up was in a store section labeled "boys".

If homosexuals represent <5% of the population, the amount of media presence they have give you the feeling 25% of the population is gay.

Then you begin to wonder who is pushing this.

Then you drift further away into extremism. People don't just get out of bed one morning and decide to be a "hateful bigot", you know. And contrary to liberal indoctrination, people arent "bigots" because they were born that way, grew up homeschooled or have never set foot outside their country.

No, people become bigots the more they are exposed to modern western society. ESPECIALLY when they travel to other countries, see the world, and realize the rest of the world is collectively shaking their heads at this mental illness we as a society are suffering from in the west: the delusion of "being progressive". I grew up multicultural just like everyone else's liberal teachers taught them to. Then I began to pause and think, and realized there is large-scale Pavlovian conditioning going on.

That is still your problem being comfortable with LGBT lifestyles.

Theres no broader picture to see here and it just makes you sound that much more ignorant as to say "i see so much gay stuff it gets on my nerves!" as justification to hate speech and intolerance.

As if that actually says "ok youre right you see so much gay stuff, [x]" it is a normal part of society now. Because again--IF ALL THIS STUFF WERE LESBIAN you would have no problem? Imagine all of the gay female things you see. Doesnt even cross your mind. How many homosexual women are on the news, in movies, in sitcoms. THATS gay too, isn't it? So wherein is the difference?

Youre trying to tell me that all the "gay male" you see is somehow different from so much more lesbian things that are in the media as if there is a difference? Which is different from heterosexuality (for that matter?) Heterosexual people can be annoying too, oh but them being annoying isn't due to their sexuality. Is there a difference?

There is none. Pure and simple. Homosexuality is homosexuality for men AND women. If youre sick of seeing gay men, you would ALSO be sick of seeing gay women because homosexuality is the same for men and women. To say otherwise is a double standard.

This is a problem you need to work out and come to terms with in yourself, not anyone else, least of all people who happen to be homosexual.

[L.C.L.]

I'm honestly not sure whether Dream Mommy would be controversy-free by default. A lot of people have different standards for games about teenage anime girls than they have for games about grown up women with children.

Sure it's easier to sell a lesbian soft p0rn game, but as soon as you take out the nudes and add just the slightest bit of scincerity, you also lose a major part of the audience that usually defends these games and writes all the positive reviews about how cute/sexy/whatever they're waifu is and how much their arms hurt from compulsive masturbation.

Just my opinion. I'd fully support Dream Mommy though should they ever decide to make it.

[Broschua]

mhh love the "men feel so uncomfortable with their sexuality they feel so threatened by .." arguments, usually made by gay fan fiction writing chicks who are attracted tooooo...? xD

btw I have a bunch of very good gay friends, love them to bits, still don't like see them making out
but I guess that makes me insecure in my sexuality.. because I'm not sexually attracted to men.
go figure..

just reminds me of the Tweek and Craig storyline

edit: oh just to clarify I have nothing against this game, go rub one out if you fancy!

[That Goon Type Shit]

Originally posted by Broschua:

mhh love the "men feel so uncomfortable with their sexuality they feel so threatened by .." arguments, usually made by gay fan fiction writing chicks who are attracted tooooo...? xD

How incredibly presumptuous. I don't write fanfics, and i am happily in a lesbian relationship at this time. If youre comfortable with not being gay, you wouldn't get triggered by it. If someone thinks its acceptable to go out of their way to spout anti-♥♥♥♥ rederic here, the problem is with them when it can just as easily not be any problem at all.

What i don't like is hypocrisy or double standards. If someone wants to be offended by homosexuality, fine. But then be offended by *homosexuality*. A straight male can go so out of their way to come here--which takes far more effort on their part--to shout about how much they don't like homosexuality in men, but spend all day licking their lips fantasizing about 2 girls being homosexual. But thats homosexuality too isn't it? No, homosexuality in men is wrong and disgusting, but homosexuality in women, is convenient and entertaining. DOuble stanards. Hypocrisy. Being such a hypocrit is far worse than being gay.

[Silver]

When will you realize that "homosexuality" is an artificial, all-encompassing blanket term invented by humans which covers BOTH biological m/m and f/f relationships? Some DUDES in labcoats decided "hey instead of categorizing things into straight, gay and lesbian, let's just categorize things into hetero and ♥♥♥♥ instead" - that's when people like you pop up and expect people to either accept all aspects of homosexuality, or none of it. On the other hand, the natural aversion many heterosexual people experience at the sight of two members of their same biological sex engaging in PDA while not being affected by two members of the opposite sex (they are biologically attracted to) is not "hypocritical" at all - it is only hypocritical toward a blanket term coined by humans that puts both m/m and f/f under the same category.

I'm sure as a lesbian woman, you feel a little queasy at the sight of two men making out in front of you as well, since you are also biologically not attracted to them at all. Yet when a straight couple is making out in front of you, you might be biologically inclined to show a bit interest in the woman while disregarding the man. That's how biology works, call it hypocritical, and 'double-standard' and be upset about it all you want.

[Sir-Bear]

Originally posted by Silver:

I'm sure as a lesbian woman, you feel a little queasy at the sight of two men making out in front of you as well, since you are also biologically not attracted to them at all. Yet when a straight couple is making out in front of you, you might be biologically inclined to show a bit interest in the woman while disregarding the man. That's how biology works, call it hypocritical, and 'double-standard' and be upset about it all you want.

I'm a gay man with some close friends who are a lesbian couple. And sometimes they cuddle or kiss or whatever when I'm around. And guess what?! It doesn't bother me at all! I'm happy to see two ladies I care so much about happy and in love. Same goes for any lesbian couple. Sure I have no attraction to them but who cares! It's nice to see people happy together, it's sweet.

Why the hell would that gross me out? People of various genders kiss eachother. It's not a big deal or a problem.

[samplexample]

Originally posted by Scmnz:

Originally posted by Silver:

I'm sure as a lesbian woman, you feel a little queasy at the sight of two men making out in front of you as well, since you are also biologically not attracted to them at all. Yet when a straight couple is making out in front of you, you might be biologically inclined to show a bit interest in the woman while disregarding the man. That's how biology works, call it hypocritical, and 'double-standard' and be upset about it all you want.

I'm a gay man with some close friends who are a lesbian couple. And sometimes they cuddle or kiss or whatever when I'm around. And guess what?! It doesn't bother me at all! I'm happy to see two ladies I care so much about happy and in love. Same goes for any lesbian couple. Sure I have no attraction to them but who cares! It's nice to see people happy together, it's sweet.

Why the hell would that gross me out? People of various genders kiss eachother. It's not a big deal or a problem.

Well, first off. PDA is annoying and lacks couth - straight or ♥♥♥♥.
I know it comes with the lifestyle, but you gays need to learn that people dont like it when you shove your strange sexual preferences into the forefront of every interaction.
Is that what defines you? Really? Is that choice really the most important aspect of 'you'? Who you sleep with? Lol thats really really sad.

Normal people get an uneasy ping in the back of their spine when they see something unnatural like that. Sorry to seem so blunt you you have to realize youre in a small, unhealthy demographic and its not good for the social fabric.
Im tolerant of any lifestyle choice my fellow citizen wants to make, and Ive supported gays being granted certain concessions, but you MUST BE TOLERANT YOURSELVES; be mindful that youre not trampling on anyone else's rights on your jounry to 'equality'.
Its called free associataion. Nobody is compelled to like it or condone homosexuality, or anything else you do in life. People also have the right to say as much.

You have your equal rights..... now sit tf down.

[Sir-Bear]

Originally posted by the gamer maimer:

Well, first off. PDA is annoying and lacks couth - straight or ♥♥♥♥.
I know it comes with the lifestyle, but you gays need to learn that people dont like it when you shove your strange sexual preferences into the forefront of every interaction.
Is that what defines you? Really? Is that choice really the most important aspect of 'you'? Who you sleep with? Lol thats really really sad.

Normal people get an uneasy ping in the back of their spine when they see something unnatural like that. Sorry to seem so blunt you you have to realize youre in a small, unhealthy demographic and its not good for the social fabric.
Im tolerant of any lifestyle choice my fellow citizen wants to make, and Ive supported gays being granted certain concessions, but you MUST BE TOLERANT YOURSELVES; be mindful that youre not trampling on anyone else's rights on your jounry to 'equality'.
Its called free associataion. Nobody is compelled to like it or condone homosexuality, or anything else you do in life. People also have the right to say as much.

You have your equal rights..... now sit tf down.

So what, as a demographic we should have no games marketed at us? You're the one in the forums of a gay dating sim. No one forced you to come here and see this conversation. No one will force you to play the game, or have gay friends, or whatever. So if this "unnaturalness" disturbs you so much, leave. How about you "sit tf down."

[samplexample]

Originally posted by Scmnz:

Originally posted by the gamer maimer:

Well, first off. PDA is annoying and lacks couth - straight or ♥♥♥♥.
I know it comes with the lifestyle, but you gays need to learn that people dont like it when you shove your strange sexual preferences into the forefront of every interaction.
Is that what defines you? Really? Is that choice really the most important aspect of 'you'? Who you sleep with? Lol thats really really sad.

Normal people get an uneasy ping in the back of their spine when they see something unnatural like that. Sorry to seem so blunt you you have to realize youre in a small, unhealthy demographic and its not good for the social fabric.
Im tolerant of any lifestyle choice my fellow citizen wants to make, and Ive supported gays being granted certain concessions, but you MUST BE TOLERANT YOURSELVES; be mindful that youre not trampling on anyone else's rights on your jounry to 'equality'.
Its called free associataion. Nobody is compelled to like it or condone homosexuality, or anything else you do in life. People also have the right to say as much.

You have your equal rights..... now sit tf down.

So what, as a demographic we should have no games marketed at us? You're the one in the forums of a gay dating sim. No one forced you to come here and see this conversation. No one will force you to play the game, or have gay friends, or whatever. So if this "unnaturalness" disturbs you so much, leave. How about you "sit tf down."

The fact you think youre a legitimate marketing demographic and that games need to be marketed to you proves my whole point.
No, I wont sit down, and obv neither will you. I know your arse is still sore from this past weekend's indulgements, but sit tf down, twink.

[Sir-Bear]

Originally posted by the gamer maimer:

Originally posted by Scmnz:

So what, as a demographic we should have no games marketed at us? You're the one in the forums of a gay dating sim. No one forced you to come here and see this conversation. No one will force you to play the game, or have gay friends, or whatever. So if this "unnaturalness" disturbs you so much, leave. How about you "sit tf down."

The fact you think youre a legitimate marketing demographic and that games need to be marketed to you proves my whole point.
No, I wont sit down, and obv neither will you. I know your arse is still sore from this past weekend's indulgements, but sit tf down, twink.

anything can be a demographic, and this game did well partially because lgbt people bought it. Not everything is designed for cishet people, nor should everything be for you. Get over it.