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For Robert, I was mad at first if only because I wasn't expecting that kind of serious bad ending lock in the general route of the game. Most of my VN/otome gameplaying experience, those kind of decisions happen more in the middle/late route. It took me off guard and I didn't even know I was on the bad end until the end.
When you consider Robert's personality though, the decision makes sense. The "Bad Dad" achievement is poor in taste and a little shamey but w/e. But considering his own complicated romantic history, his own baggage, and his tendency to isolate and lock folks out...the whole "you gotta befriend him first, then romantically pursue him" makes more sense.
Still just primarily sour @ how Joseph's route turned all out. Just...the whole homewrecking concept in this sweet/goofy nature kin of game is just gross.
In reality, absolutely. It's just in quite a few Japanese gay dating sims the ♥♥♥♥♥ harpy wife or the youthful chick fiance is an archetype, and you can usually win out. They decided to make you feel for Mary though, and like others have said, it feels like this game is punishing you for liking him.
Like a big lesson on how infidelity can hurt everyone which is a great lesson, but why is it in my dating game?
And bluerose, it does make since to a point for Robert, but his whole route is just a tease with a life lesson learned at the end, and I'm sorry to say it's kind of shallow. "If I stop drinking so much and stop being an emotionally unavailable jerk, maybe I'll be happier with myself", and it's no deeper than that.
I like Mary, I like her a lot. Even if I wasn't going for Joseph I would still want her to end it with him. The woman doesn’t even want to go to her house, Joseph isn’t in the house because he was living at the boat by that time (if the 2nd Mary event is supposed to be a bug). The game showed both side not liking the marriage and it hinted at marriage counseling was done before, didn't work that well last time. As we can see, by him doing it again. For f*** sake Joseph does couple counseling and even he can't fix that mess. The game didn't even show them being in love, tell us that they are in love or even tell/show us if they EVER been in love. Even at photo album it hinted at Mary not being that in it.
In real life I would never go for a married closeted man. Cause 1. That’s just wrong, it hurts a lot of people. 2. The man most likely will never end the marriage and I will be heartbroken like now or the side B****. So why am I seeing realism instead of fantasy in my DADDS?
Don’t even get me started on Roberts’s path, at least his had a slight possibility of us ending up together if he works on his issues. This game need more involved epilogues tbh.
I mean, yes. He's married. And it's still a terrible situation. But I don't know why you can abstain from sex with Robert to help him out with his kid, but you can't offer the same help to Joseph and Mary. You just have a yes/no with them, when it would be nice to have an option in "Walk Mary Home" and one of Joseph's dates to say, "Look, my dudes, you need to sort this out. Because you're both good people who are making some huge life mistakes here."
But I do see what you're saying. The game is weirdly preachy. It plays the "Gotcha!" game with the player a lot. Especially with Joseph's last date where a third party encourages you and says it's okay. Your character tries to talk about Mary, and Joseph tells you that they're over. So you get all the signs that, yeah, they're actually over.
And Robert's is worse. Because you haven't done anything wrong, and there's no route you can take to get him to stop avoiding you even if he's avoiding 'clingy' one night stands.
The game does have an odd hang up about punshing the player for being a "side piece." It wouldn't be so irritating except that it does it with two dads instead of one. If it was just Joseph's bad ending with the affair suggestion or Robert where he treats you like trash afterwards it wouldn't be as noticable.
(Also, it's hilarious that it's weirdly pious about sex, but Mat gets all upset with you if you say you don't want to do pot.)
you're going after a married man with a clearly ♥♥♥♥ relationship w/ you're only justification being "he's happier with me."
like yeah it's a pretty out of place and disappointing ending, but if you're homewrecking a married christian father of 4, i don't know what you'd expect.
(also this:)
The thing is that it doesn't just do it with Joseph. (I mean, it encourages you with him on your last date, so that one is all about tricking the player. But you chose that third date in the first place.)
It does it with Robert. And that's the one that's the rub. You get punished for being an adult and having a consensual fling. And if you keep pursuing Robert to the second date after sleeping with him first night, he basically tells you how you're just desparate and wanting him to treat you like trash. It's literally in his dialogue.
That's the problem. Joseph, you can sort of get. It's a little underhanded how the set it up on the third date, but you get it.
Robert's path when you sleep with him "Too Early" for the game's standards is just a shaming thing.
that's kinda justifiable too? like ik it feels wrong but you slept with a man you just met. if you really know how robert is, he wouldn't be the type of person to want to get romantically involved with someone who just sees him as an object. by sleeping with him without even getting to know him, that's like saying "i really don't wanna know more about you, let's just have sex." and that hurts roberts' feelings, which is why he says "i'm treating you like an object like how you treated me like an object."
he wants someone who'll take the time to get to know and understand him. it is kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥? ngl. but robert just deserves more than someone who ♥♥♥♥♥ on the first date :/
First of all NO! Robert suggested this hook up, not you. Thus Robert saw you as an object first. If you are going with that argument. He didn't get to know us, he didn't want to know us. He wanted to ♥♥♥♥ us. If anyone to blame for the hook up it's Robert.
Bar flings happen all the time in gaybars and straight ones. Sometime you can go an date from that point and develop real relation. We are NOT in the 40s-50s ok. This doesn't feel like a choice that was written by someone who understand modren dating and hook ups. You are not a ♥♥♥♥♥ for ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ him on the first night and robert is not a ♥♥♥♥♥ either. Two adults needing each others company for a night is perfectly normal and if you are safe its ok.
also an archetype of a dating game
just enjoy the game, dude. it's not a masterpiece, but it's fun
and think about it. he said he was leaving, asked if you were going w/ him, and then both ended up outside of his house.
i never implied either of them were??? :^I
and that last part only backs up what i'm saying??
robert wanted to know if you were just someone who wanted him at night or someone who was going to stick around
Ha-ha omg. What I'm reading too much into it? I'm just stating what have been said by Robert. He never mentioned being friend. He just wanted a hook up that’s it He didn't even give me a chance to explain myself in other date, if we had any actual dates. He just treated the MC like a used condom and threw him away.
You are the one reading a secret test of friendship into this mess. He sexually pushed himself onto you the moment you entered the house. HE PUSHED HIS BODY ONTO YOU. Can you honestly say he wanted a friendship or anything else other than sex?
There is no test of friendship, you read that part! You, no one else. Casual hook up are the norm in adult situations especially from bars. This situation was written incompetently and should have been handled better.