How come sleeping with Robert makes you a "Bad Dad"??

[lesbeon]

Before I go into this, I just wanted to say that I REALLY loved the game!!!!!!!! It's incredibly well developed and all the little details were super fun, the mini-games were delightful!!! Certainly a game the LGBT community will remember for a very long time, I'm also glad the cishets and the fujoshis haven't ruined it for me yet!!!!!!

However! I do have a question!! I noticed that if you sleep with Robert after you drink with him and watch The Game and all that, you apparentely get a "bad dad" achievement!!

I didn't sleep with Robert because honestly I just met him, but now I'm curious if doing so will be consequential in your relationship with your daughter or something??? Does it just heck up your life and you become a bad dad forever??? I don't wanna be a bad dad!!! I know there's an "okayest" dad achievement when you don't do your job well with Amanda but now I'm curious about what "bad" means here!!!!

I'd try it out myself but I am far too scared to be bad!!! I don't want to be bad ever!!! So yeah since we have this discussion thingy, thought I'd just ask y'all!!! I'm sure some of you must not be sensitive freaks like me so share your bad dad experiences please!!!

[Hinterkaifeck]

Originally posted by WorldsaStage:

Yeah, like slut shame much? If you sleep with Robert on the first night that means he immediately just sees you as an object. God knows sex isn't more compicated than that. I like the game, and anything involving Amanda is so touching, but this route kind of felt like moral lecturing.

Yeah it caught me off guard when that happened, but I mean it kinda makes sense. You wanted to and agreed to hooking up with a guy that you just met, so Robert rolled with it and thought that's how you wanted this "relationship" to go down.

[lesbeon]

Hey guys! I just watched a little playthrough and I've got three guesses on why you get a "Bad Dad" achievement!!!

1) It may have something to do with the fact that you come home hungover and stuff, you even refer to yourself as "father of the year" in the game I believe in a sarcastic manner!!! So yeah you just feel bad for the way you get home hungover and stuff.

2) It could be using the word "bad" in a sexual way, refering to the fact that you and Robert got sexual now and will never be anything more than that!

3) It can be what some of you said about how Robert sees himself as a bad person and stuff!!

Either way, Robert is quite the interesting character and this is an interesting achievement! I'm glad sleeping with him doesn't ruin your relationship with your daughter at all!! Thanks for the lovely comments <3

[WorldsaStage]

Originally posted by Hinterkaifeck:

Originally posted by WorldsaStage:

Yeah, like slut shame much? If you sleep with Robert on the first night that means he immediately just sees you as an object. God knows sex isn't more compicated than that. I like the game, and anything involving Amanda is so touching, but this route kind of felt like moral lecturing.

Yeah it caught me off guard when that happened, but I mean it kinda makes sense. You wanted to and agreed to hooking up with a guy that you just met, so Robert rolled with it and thought that's how you wanted this "relationship" to go down.

But it's totally possible to have casual sex and then be like "wow this persons pretty cool". It just felt preachy to me the achievement calls you out for sleeping with him on the first night, and the story assumes because you like sex that means you should be treated like an object,

[cupcorgi]

To add to everyone else's commentary, I think you get the Bad Dad achievement because you leave your daughter alone all night without telling her where you're going, and instead you sleep overnight with some rando (even if he's a cute rando) from the bar. I interpretted it this way because your Dad freaks out about how he left his daughter alone immediately after the achieve pops up.

[lesbeon]

Originally posted by WorldsaStage:

Originally posted by Hinterkaifeck:

Yeah it caught me off guard when that happened, but I mean it kinda makes sense. You wanted to and agreed to hooking up with a guy that you just met, so Robert rolled with it and thought that's how you wanted this "relationship" to go down.

But it's totally possible to have casual sex and then be like "wow this persons pretty cool". It just felt preachy to me the achievement calls you out for sleeping with him on the first night, and the story assumes because you like sex that means you should be treated like an object,

I don't think this is how the story sees you but mostly how Robert sees you, I guess he could be used to having sex with anyone who's friendly to him and he ends up always assuming that people could only be nice to one another when they want something in return, which could make him see you like less of a human being and have a hard time believing in genuine kindness and stuff, but I guess I could be just spouting nonsense here I mean I haven't played his route myself!

[WorldsaStage]

Woooow, if you sleep with Robert on the third date he kicks you out and it makes him not talk to his daughter. Just the act of having sex with him makes him discard what I would assume is a length of time you've been getting to know him and him considering you a friend. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, along with the fact that you really cant date one of the dads in A Dad Dating Simulator.

[lesbeon]

Originally posted by WorldsaStage:

Woooow, if you sleep with Robert on the third date he kicks you out and it makes him not talk to his daughter. Just the act of having sex with him makes him discard what I would assume is a length of time you've been getting to know him and him considering you a friend. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, along with the fact that you really cant date one of the dads in A Dad Dating Simulator.

Oh Wow really?? That's nuts!! I wonder what's up with that guy now!!!

[cupcorgi]

I can't say more for spoilers, but in another Dad's route, the other Dad talks about Robert's thoughts on casual sex rather critically and frames it as part of Robert's emotional issues. To say any more would be giving away stuff, but the game definitely addresses that Robert's a jerk for criticizing you for casual sex with him.

Additionally, I think in the final scene Robert kicks you out if you sleep with him because he's using sex as a defense mechanism to keep you at a distance (especially since Mary tells you he's in a bad place, and he acts veeery weird up until he's suddenly all over you). He definitely has some unhealthy ideas about sex as a coping mechanism and projects it all over your Dad if you let him.

[Eve]

I assume it makes you a 'bad dad' because you had an apointment with your kids teacher the next morning but you got wasted the night before and if you stay with him you don't have enough time to sleep it off.

[Trifoilum]

Regarding the achievement; I suspect it's what people said here.

Regarding Robert and his endings, though-- as much as it's upsetting, I...actually kind of like it?

Because guys like him does exist (there's a reason why bleepboys exist as a term) and I think characters like these ('you have to not be thirsty to succeed') exist in visual novels. Mostly to break behavioral pattern.

And the good ending...... it's a nice change from the usual romance/BL trope of "oh I love you I'm definitely going to change and become nicer all the sudden". This way, recovery is possible and there's a promise of the future-- even if that future is not now.
It's sweet without being terribly

[lesbeon]

Originally posted by Trifoilum:

Regarding the achievement; I suspect it's what people said here.

Regarding Robert and his endings, though-- as much as it's upsetting, I...actually kind of like it?

Because guys like him does exist (there's a reason why bleepboys exist as a term) and I think characters like these ('you have to not be thirsty to succeed') exist in visual novels. Mostly to break behavioral pattern.

And the good ending...... it's a nice change from the usual romance/BL trope of "oh I love you I'm definitely going to change and become nicer all the sudden". This way, recovery is possible and there's a promise of the future-- even if that future is not now.
It's sweet without being terribly

Yes!!!!!! I loved that ending!!!!! Robert's story is definitely one of the most well written ones and I love it to bits!!!!!!!! Romance and BL tropes suck and this game does everything very very right!!!!!!

[Kalech]

All you have to do to get Robert's good ending is to take an interest in him as a person. The bar is pretty low. Of course a purely physical relationship can lead to a deeper one, but it's not guaranteed. I don't exactly blame Robert for not wanting to be emotionally vulnerable with someone who initially only cared about his body. I wouldn't want to do that either.

[Hinterkaifeck]

Originally posted by WorldsaStage:

Woooow, if you sleep with Robert on the third date he kicks you out and it makes him not talk to his daughter. Just the act of having sex with him makes him discard what I would assume is a length of time you've been getting to know him and him considering you a friend. That makes absolutely no sense whatsoever, along with the fact that you really cant date one of the dads in A Dad Dating Simulator.

Well I mean...... He's clearly distressed in that scene and got stuff on his mind, and you literally choose not to press him on it and say "Let's get back to ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, 'kay?"

That's a pretty douchey move to make on someone. I guess imagine you're with a friend who tells you their lover dumped them, and you ask them if they're okay, and they're clearly not but still saying "I'm fine." If you just say "okay cool" and move on, your friend's probably gonna be pissed at you for not making the effort to press them and ask if they're really okay. I know some people might think that's mind games ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, but people do stuff like that all the time. Kind of our way of testing if someone really cares or not.

[FoxScribbles]

Originally posted by Sentientmonkey:

I think it's literally because Robert's tagline is "Bad Dad"

This. It's not you being a "Bad Dad" it's an achievement for sleeping with the "Bad Dad" on the first night. Which forces you into a bad ending with the "Bad Dad" if that makes sense. Because instead of building a relationship with Robert, you just slept with him. So now he sees you as just a booty call. (You'll still sleep with him on the second date if you persist, and he kicks you out again.)