Why I won't buy this game.

[kylearn]

First off, let me say, I've watched a complete play through of the game, and while I thought the game overall was good, I have one glaring issue with it. Unless I've missed it somewhere, this is a one and done. I can't imagine the game can be played with different outcomes, as you'd literally have to rewrite every scene, image, etc. I don't doubt the work that went into this game, and I applaud them for doing something unique in a market full of me-too's. Sure, you could run it again to try to "optimize" your run, and maybe that's enough for some people. Just my opinion.

[kylearn]

Robocoq a écrit :

Who the hell watches an entire playthrough of a game and then complains they can't play it because they already spoiled everything for themselves?

Lpzie a écrit :

lol you played yourself.

Faron Eärendil a écrit :

The gist of these games is to solve the mysteries... Once they're solved, then you should move on. I mean, what did you expect pal?

herbstwerk a écrit :

What somewhat annoys me is that you're basically calling the whole adventure-game genre worthless because there's only one end state and emergent game-play like in DF is neither possible nor the expected outcome.

Unsurprisingly, you're missing the point. My complaint is not that I "spoiled everything for myself". I avoided wasting 20 dollars I can spend on other games with unlimited play-ability. Not everyone has the funds to blow on single use games. My comment, as I have said several times, was to inform those who might be in my situation. Individuals that might only get to buy one game a year. It might surprise you to know that some people have a limited income, and need to make the most of every dollar they earn. For some people, games are a "luxury", an indulgence.

As for "calling the whole adventure-game genre worthless", I've never said that the genre is "worthless" to everyone. I've only said it's only value to ME is watching others play them. In other words, they have value to some, just not to all. I seriously don't understand why this is such a difficult concept for you people to grasp.

As for "second hand enjoyment", if you actually bothered to read my responses, I already addressed this, but I'll say it one more time. Watching someone else play a story driven game is IN MY OPINION, no different from watching a movie, or watching someone else react to a movie I've already seen. I even said in my OP that I thought the game was good overall, and I enjoyed the story it told. I have watched numerous people play the game because I enjoy seeing how different people react to the story. I certainly would not bother to watch different play-through's of a game with a crappy story.

[Aerond]

It's a mystery game. It's always been treated as a 'luxury', since you obviously can only play it once, unless you get real life amnesia by the end of your playthrough.

[Pckables]

kylearn a écrit :

My comment, as I have said several times, was to inform those who might be in my situation. Individuals that might only get to buy one game a year. It might surprise you to know that some people have a limited income, and need to make the most of every dollar they earn.

I think most people are confused at how someone would come to the conclusion that this is anything but a linear puzzle game.

If someone can only buy one game a year, then surely they'd know enough to research the game they want to buy.
And if they don't research, then they're never gonna see this thread anyways.

Overall I don't know what the point of this thread is outside of stating something everyone already knew, and complaining that you don't like games being linear.

[kylearn]

Pckables a écrit :

kylearn a écrit :

My comment, as I have said several times, was to inform those who might be in my situation. Individuals that might only get to buy one game a year. It might surprise you to know that some people have a limited income, and need to make the most of every dollar they earn.

I think most people are confused at how someone would come to the conclusion that this is anything but a linear puzzle game.

If someone can only buy one game a year, then surely they'd know enough to research the game they want to buy.
And if they don't research, then they're never gonna see this thread anyways.

Overall I don't know what the point of this thread is outside of stating something everyone already knew, and complaining that you don't like games being linear.

Not sure how much more simply I can explain my position. It's not really my problem if you can't understand. Honestly, I really don't get why you guys are wasting so much of your time arguing with a random nobody over something you all believe is a non-issue. Just stop replying and let my comment go the way of the dodo. All you're accomplishing is keeping my comment at the top of the first page.

[charliechuckleberry]

kylearn a écrit :

Most books don't cost $20 either.

"The House in Fate Morgana" is a picture book you can buy for the Nintendo Switch. The price is locked at $40.
https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/the-house-in-fata-morgana-dreams-of-the-revenants-edition-switch/

[kylearn]

charliechuckleberry a écrit :

kylearn a écrit :

Most books don't cost $20 either.

"The House in Fate Morgana" is a picture book you can buy for the Nintendo Switch. The price is locked at $40.
https://www.nintendo.com/games/detail/the-house-in-fata-morgana-dreams-of-the-revenants-edition-switch/

Gosh, golly, gee willikers mister! Thanks for your pointless comment about a console I don't own. I'll give you points for originality though. As for paying $40 dollars for a picture book, you know what they say? "A fool and his money are soon parted". Also, "There's a sucker born every minute" But hey, it's your money, you do you.

According to https://www.millcitypress.net/author-learning-hub/distribution/setting-retail-price/ "Most average-sized trade paperback novels fall into the $13.95 to $17.95 price range." Part of the reason I no longer buy paperback books. Why pay for a book when I can borrow free from a library? Especially if I've never read it before. NOw, if I've read it, and the story is good/original, I'll consider picking up an e-book if it's available, but paying that much for a book of unknown quality? Not on your life. But again, that's just me. If you feel like spending $20 dollars or more on books/games/movies, you know nothing about, have at it.

[RarePotatoe]

Okay you watched a let's play and saw all the mysteries get solved in the game. I wouldn't buy it after I did that as well, because it is a game you can only play once. What's wrong with that?

There's no reason to tell people they are wasting their money on a game because they can't replay it or they can just watch it online. You can only play it once but playing through the game and figuring out all the mysteries by yourself makes for a great one-of-a-kind experience.

[kylearn]

RarePotatoe a écrit :

Okay you watched a let's play and saw all the mysteries get solved in the game. I wouldn't buy it after I did that as well, because it is a game you can only play once. What's wrong with that?

There's no reason to tell people they are wasting their money on a game because they can't replay it or they can just watch it online. You can only play it once but playing through the game and figuring out all the mysteries by yourself makes for a great one-of-a-kind experience.

I've never told anyone else they are wasting their money buying the game, I've only ever said that for ME PERSONALLY, it would be a waste. How you , and everyone else, choose to spend YOUR money, is entirely up to YOU. The closest I've come to saying someone else buying something would be a waste of their money would be when I commented "As for paying $40 dollars for a picture book, you know what they say? "A fool and his money are soon parted". Also, "There's a sucker born every minute" But hey, it's your money, you do you." Even then, I clearly stated "it's your money, you do you".

As for your question, "What's wrong with that?" If you're still asking this question, after all the times I've explained my PERSONAL OPINION, based on my PERSONAL CIRCUMSTANCES, then there is clearly no way you will benefit from me answering your question. Have a nice day.

[Ritz]

what a clown... it really looks like something I'd read on Hard Drive https://hard-drive.net/

[Roshambo]

#refundvirginity

Such a "one and done" experience

[elfypooh]

The OP should stop gaming and, instead, just watch streamers play games. By his logic he would save tons of money.

[Kroko]

kylearn a écrit :

I've never told anyone else they are wasting their money buying the game,

kylearn a écrit :

Honestly, I prefer to let other people waste their money on "one shot stories".

TLDR: OP enjoyed watching playthroughs of the game for free, doesn't want to support indie devs and doesn't understand why everyone is not doing the same.

[kylearn]

Sweet Major Ritz a écrit :

what a clown... it really looks like something I'd read on Hard Drive https://hard-drive.net/

Sounds like something I'd read on Twitter. Oh wait, I don't waste my time and brain cells with Twitter.

Roshambo a écrit :

#refundvirginity

Such a "one and done" experience

Honestly never understood people's fascination with virginity. Might as well say you like them young, nothing problematic about that, right?

elfypooh a écrit :

The OP should stop gaming and, instead, just watch streamers play games. By his logic he would save tons of money.

I have. in fact. saved myself tons of money watching streamers play games I'd not spend my own money on after seeing what the game is about. Whether it's the story, a particular game mechanic, etc. I want to know what I'm getting for my money.

Kroko a écrit :

kylearn a écrit :

I've never told anyone else they are wasting their money buying the game,

kylearn a écrit :

Honestly, I prefer to let other people waste their money on "one shot stories".

TLDR: OP enjoyed watching playthroughs of the game for free, doesn't want to support indie devs and doesn't understand why everyone is not doing the same.

Surprised you actually bothered to read far enough back to find that. Oh wait, you were looking for a "gotcha". Congrats, your diligence is rewarded.

As for "supporting indie devs", I've no idea how many indie games I've dumped money on in more than 40 years of gaming, so, not sure what you're going on about there. I don't buy games based on the "devs". I buy games that have mechanics that I enjoy. Games that, more often than not, are open ended, or have no set "story". If a game is good/fun, I don't care who or what "kind" of dev made it. All I care about is value.

I've over 170 games, just in my steam library, no idea how many or which, if any, are "indie". I don't care enough about it to find out. This whole "support indie devs" thing is kind of like Roshambo's hangup on virgins. Way overrated in my personal opinion.

[elfypooh]

kylearn a écrit :

I have. in fact. saved myself tons of money watching streamers play games I'd not spend my own money on after seeing what the game is about. Whether it's the story, a particular game mechanic, etc. I want to know what I'm getting for my money.

You did not seem to understand what I said and did not address what I said. According to your own logic, you should stop gaming altogether. If money is a concern for you, and you can substitute gaming with watching other people play, then, using your own worldview, you should stop gaming altogether.

[Aerond]

elfypooh a écrit :

kylearn a écrit :

I have. in fact. saved myself tons of money watching streamers play games I'd not spend my own money on after seeing what the game is about. Whether it's the story, a particular game mechanic, etc. I want to know what I'm getting for my money.

You did not seem to understand what I said and did not address what I said. According to your own logic, you should stop gaming altogether. If money is a concern for you, and you can substitute gaming with watching other people play, then, using your own worldview, you should stop gaming altogether.

OP literally has some serious issues.

Also, he's very contradicting about his money problem. On one reply he's talking about money and in another reply he's bragging about 'supporting game developers'.