Return of the Obra Dinn

Return of the Obra Dinn

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Who did you feel the most sorry for?
While some of the folks on the good ship either had it coming, or were stupid or obnoxious enough that their death isn't much of a tragedy, there are those who would have deserved better. Spoilers ahead.

Captain Witterel himself - throughout the journey, he always only tried to do what was best for the ship and the people under his responsibility, even allowing the remaining civilians to leave the ship. That the last three other survivors ganged up on him and he was forced to kill them, and then had his entire estate forfeited through the "crime" of suicide is just adding insult to injury.

Third Mate Perrott - an all-around decent fellow, seen actively fighting against the invading beasts alongside the rank and file, trying to protect Abigail when she wandered outside at the stupidest moment possible, gets spiked for the his trouble of trying to bargain, and even after his death, when the ship makes it home, everyone's been wiped out so his sacrifice was completely useless in hindsight.

Everyone who died fighting the kraken or the spider crab invaders as opposed to running away from them; special mention to Gunner Wolff, Carpenter Smith, and Bo'sun Klestil.


There are a few others, but they were not as developed, so they pass under the radar a little, I suppose.
Ultima modifica da Radene; 30 giu 2020, ore 15:29
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Trying to find any comments about the Captains injustice and I'm glad I'm not the only one that thinks so.
Has to be the first and third mates They were always much more capable than the captain. Martin died trying to return the mermaids and save the ship after the captain just tried killing them. He also tried to help Abigail and was generally involved and helping from crisis to crisis. William was also generally active throughout the ship, particularly during the escape. He initially rushes to help Paul but then comforts Thomas as he bleeds out. Sure, the ending is technically mutiny, but can you blame him? It's just him and two sailors left.
Ultima modifica da Denym; 31 mar 2022, ore 17:05
If you read through the documents Abraham Akbar got charged for double murder for a misfire that was caused by him getting crushed to death by a kraken lol
Messaggio originale di Angel "El Bizco":
If you read through the documents Abraham Akbar got charged for double murder for a misfire that was caused by him getting crushed to death by a kraken lol
That is only if you don't blame the monster.
Messaggio originale di Gregor MacGregor:
Messaggio originale di Angel "El Bizco":
If you read through the documents Abraham Akbar got charged for double murder for a misfire that was caused by him getting crushed to death by a kraken lol
That is only if you don't blame the monster.

Ah I didn't know that was an option, I had them set as shot by a beast but the fates wouldn't lock in, my third I was "Certain" of must have been wrong lol
Hey, kinda cool that this thread is still going :)
Probably the Formosans in general. They're just trying to get passage on a ship, and then the second mate, who should be serving the ship and passengers, steals their treasure, frames one of them for murder and the others have to watch helplessly as he's executed, two of them are kidnapped and killed at sea, and the remaining one gets spiked shortly after. I laughed out loud when I saw that the person who shot Nichols dead was the remaining Formosan. "Hold your fire!" "Oh I'm sorry what did you say? I accidentally shot the guy who's responsible for all my friends' deaths, whoopsie."

I gotta say, it's a bit messed up you don't get to specify more of the circumstances of the deaths. Everyone who killed another crew member gets charged with murder, irrelevant of whether it was an accident, they were part of a firing squad that had the legal right to execute someone, or they were killing an evil crew member in defense.
Ultima modifica da Mithcoriel; 22 apr 2022, ore 14:58
Messaggio originale di Wigbert FriggleShit:
On the flipside though, at first, I thought the death of the unidentified stowaway in Loose Cargo was morbidly funny and mostly pointless, and then I realized literally the only reason the stowaway is in the game was to provide a trace to the death of Samuel Peters, whose death by crushing by cargo was relatively tragic, and he was likely buried at sea, leaving no trace behind.

There are plenty of deaths that are in the game to provide a trace, such as all the people who died as the unholy captives were carried downstairs, the cow, the guy who crawled away from the spider monsters only to be accidentally shot, the foot outside the first mate's window.



Messaggio originale di GanonsSpirit:
Dr. Evans when the player doesn't solve any fates. You kill the man with crushing disappointment.

Letter: "You suck so much that I died."
Messaggio originale di Wigbert FriggleShit:
I believe Charles Hershtik in Soldiers of the Sea suffered one of the most painful deaths fromburning to death on top of the crab rider, as well as Abraham Akbar in The Doom who was very slowly crushed to death, pinned between a wall and a cannon held by the kraken.

On the flipside though, at first, I thought the death of the unidentified stowaway in Loose Cargo was morbidly funny and mostly pointless, and then I realized literally the only reason the stowaway is in the game was to provide a trace to the death of Samuel Peters, whose death by crushing by cargo was relatively tragic, and he was likely buried at sea, leaving no trace behind.

I have a pet theory about the stowaway.

Both of the Indian crew members present in the cargo where the stowaway died also later died of a mysterious lung illness which the surgeon suspects was from the Lascar House from which the men were hired. I think they may have helped the stowaway aboard. It's only speculation, but they may have been helping a sick friend from the same Lascar house to return to India, maybe hoping to die in his homeland, or maybe just hoping leaving the lascar would improve his health. The sick man wouldn't have been hired himself, and so his friends helped him aboard at port. They made sure to be in the cargo deck to assure his safety, but the cargo came down and he died. They may have checked the barrel and found him unresponsive or even opened it to find him dead. As to why they would have left him in the barrel, Lascars were ill-regarded and lower paid than other seamen, and they likely feared reprisals at having helped aboard a stowaway. They may have intended to come back for the body to bury him at sea or to take his body to India to give him a proper funeral once in the East, but they themselves succumbed to illness shortly after their friend's death. The only evidence to support this is the coincidence of Syed and Rajub both being present in the cargo deck at the time of death, the inclusion of the Lascar house as a detail in a game that's conservative with information and the allusion to the stowaway looking for their freedom in stowing away. It's just an idea; all of this is suggestive rather than conclusive
Ultima modifica da stevebeach1212; 7 giu 2022, ore 14:33
Messaggio originale di Herr Sten:
No one is gonna mention Topman Maba? Torn in half. Yeesh.
It was just a flesh wound
Gotta 100% say Akbar for accidentally causing the death of three other crewmen while being crushed to death only to be later blamed for their deaths if you accuse him instead of the kraken (which i didn't know about until i read this thread LOL).

Maba and Charles def have the most brutal deaths in the game besides Akbar, but at least they went out like heroes and don't get blamed for something out of their control :<

Also thanks to the thread for pointing out that how much better of a person Davies was. I legit thought he was one of the mutiners that got accidentally shot by his partner the gunner's mate until this thread made me realize he wasn't. So now I feel bad for silently judging him through out the game even though he wasn't.

The final pick is a character I found myself attached too weirdly even though he wasn't in many scenes lol. It was the butcher. Maybe it was because he looked so happy in the group pictures, but every time I saw him in game I had a soft spot for him.
I have a soft spot for the midshipmen, 3 of the younger men on board that seemed to be like brothers to each other. Charles' act of heroism is one of the few I find myself actively avoid rewatching, and the surviving duo are visibly distraught at being unable to save their friend. I'd like to think Peter was inspired by his sacrifice and contributed towards his own death to stem the Kraken attack as well, bearing even heavier burden towards Thomas which lingered to his final breath as survivor's guilt. Something noteworthy was how Thomas fastened himself to Peter before his demise and was fully ready to share his fate, however hopeless.

Even with his comrades gone, and the ship in complete disarray, Thomas still remained unwaveringly loyal to his duty, alerting the ship to her dissidents without regard for his own safety. It's even more tragic how he has no honorable mention during the end scoring, despite being the last crew member who hasn't fallen into the despair of the situation, moreso than the captain and even the audience. Surely I'm not the only one who sympathized with the mutineer's cause after all that they've been through.
French guy was kinda sad since he seemed loyal to his master, and was helping him out and doing hard work in over 10 scenes. But we dont even get to consodilate his death, he is just mentioned that "he was torn apart".
Messaggio originale di Don Clawleone:
Messaggio originale di Herr Sten:
No one is gonna mention Topman Maba? Torn in half. Yeesh.
Agreed, he got it bad.
Same here.
Paul Moss and Martin Perrot. They really, really tried to do their best, even after all they saw. And both died so close before getting out, and so unnessecary.
Charlie,Tom and Pete are also two Deaths i mourn.
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