Will we ever see ZOE 1 on Steam?

[GDMilkman]

I would love to replay that game. Heck I'd like to see the GBA game as well.

[RAWRmonger]

Most likely not.
Konami has been weird lately though.
For one, I never expected this to hit PC, for another, they haven't released the MGS games on Steam (they did 1/2 on GoG).

ZoE1 also isn't that good.
The GBA game has an OK plot, but the gameplay is braindead easy.

[GDMilkman]

ZoE one is a great game, IDK wtf you're babbling about.

[RAWRmonger]

Didn't meant to say it's bad.
But it's really underwhelming after you've played ZoE2.
- Slower combat.
- Barely any varied enemies (Raptors and Mummies mostly)
- Need to collect passcodes, servers, and destroy porters
- Limited subweapons.
- Go back and forth on maps.
- Kiddy characters.

The game also feels like a prolog. How much do you think could sell it for? I'd guess 20€ tops. So not worth the effort of porting it. And seeing how little support 2 received, probably better that way.

[GDMilkman]

It's a very different game that's actually about the push and pull of trying to use a weapon of war as a tool of protection, and how the very idea of waging war on the frontier is stupid and harmful yet almost impossible to avoid.
It's a game that's stuck with me visually, mechanically, and plot wise 10x more so than most video games I've played since.
I don't care if other people don't think it's 'better' it's a truly unique game with more to say than anything I've seen from the industry in decades and I would hope to see it carried forward.

Sure ZOE2 is a great game as well, but it simply isn't ZOE1.

[KingyWingy]

I want it! That one blade raptor mission was cool. But it is not likely.

And get Z.O.E. 3 going again.

[Kaneshii]

Would be very nice, ZoE is a great tribute to Evangelion.

[Colgatts]

ZOE1 and 2 sold poorly on PS2.
HD collection sold poorly on PS3/360.
MARS sold poorly on PC/PS4.

Can't blame Konami for not give a third chance to ZOE1 when ZOE2 failed 3 already.

[GDMilkman]

Quoting from the wiki "the first game obtained good sales in North America"

[Colgatts]

Publicado originalmente por GDMilkman:

Quoting from the wiki "the first game obtained good sales in North America"

"While the first game obtained good sales in North America as a result of including the demo for Metal Gear Solid 2: Sons of Liberty, Zone of the Enders: The 2nd Runner, received mediocre sales."

[GDMilkman]

so again, the first game sold well, they assume it's that demo disk, but eff that, it's a classic.

[WhitePhantom]

Konami don't care! It's too bad as I'd also like to see the first game remastered and the GBA game. I think we are lucky to have this one and lucky to even get a sequel back in the PS2 days. It felt like they knew it was their last chance and just wrapped it all up in a few hours.

Best hope for this franchise is Kojima productions creating a spiritual sequel. Similar mech designs and everything just a different world.

[Memorex]

i rather see MGS1 MGS2 and MGS3 on steam.

[Cheese]

Publicado originalmente por RAWRmonger:

- Need to collect passcodes, servers, and destroy porters
- Go back and forth on maps.

These feel really out of place among the other complaints, since you're just describing gameplay that can range from exceptionally good or godawful depending entirely on execution.

...Or do you think Super Metroid is terrible because you "go back and forth on maps"?

[RAWRmonger]

Publicado originalmente por Cheese:

Publicado originalmente por RAWRmonger:

- Need to collect passcodes, servers, and destroy porters
- Go back and forth on maps.

These feel really out of place among the other complaints, since you're just describing gameplay that can range from exceptionally good or godawful depending entirely on execution.

...Or do you think Super Metroid is terrible because you "go back and forth on maps"?

Super Metroid is kinda aged because the map sucks (no doors and conjointed corridors) and the controls are slugish (compared to both GBA games), mostly.
In the case of ZoE1, this feel specially pointless because the game isn't structured to be an adventure/exploration game. It's just there to go back and forth.

[GDMilkman]

If you think SUPER METROID is a bad game, then we don't have to agree, on anything, ever.