Blame Valve, not the developers

[baukereg]

I understand everyone's frustration, but keep in mind:

Valve demands 30% revenues from the developer with ♥♥♥♥ support, while Epic only demands 12% and offers a way better service to developers. Many small game developers are having a hard time to break even financially. Ofcourse they want to sell their games to the best possible outcome for them.

Don't blame the developers, blame Valve for questionable policies.

[GRIMREAPER ALVA]

Bottom line is simple. With Steam, developers both small and large gains the most money on PC. More than any other platforms. That's the reason why they themselves choose Steam over anything else. Valve doesn't have to bribe them or anything like that.

[Plumpeach]

Doesn't change the fact that they are leaving indies behind in the dust.

Though to be fair they should be using itch.io and not epic anyways.

[DarkStarClassic]

TheBlackS님이 먼저 게시:

steam's 30% comes with every feature that steamwork offers

epic's 12% comes with, well, nothing beside a store

but yes, it's valve's fault for not buying exclusivity from the developers
it will the pc costumer's fault if the pc market turn into some exclusivity ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ like the console market though

I'll bet market will splinter into groups with exclusives soon we need to install 20 launcher with all the data they collect in the background so we need a 24 core cpu to have smooth PC ride hehe.

Wait..oh thats why AMD is pushing the cores counts on CPU's they knew this would be happening 30 background programs so all manage to work properly lol.

[AV]

baukereg님이 먼저 게시:

I understand everyone's frustration, but keep in mind:

Valve demands 30% revenues from the developer with♥♥♥♥♥♥support, while Epic only demands 12% and offers a way better service to developers. Many small game developers are having a hard time to break even financially. Ofcourse they want to sell their games to the best possible outcome for them.

Don't blame the developers, blame Valve for questionable policies.

Let's do some rough math. Epic charges the dev 60% less while providing over 90% less critical services to the consumer. Result: devs who can't figure this out on their own either don't have a clue how important support infrastructure and Steam's convenience/qol services are or they just don't give a flying ♥♥♥♥ about their customers. Bottom line, they're not getting paid more, they're stiffing their players hard. Either way, that quickly equates to a dev I'm not not wasting my money on.

[tmaddox]

BeerGrills님이 먼저 게시:

No, the devs are greedy ♥♥♥♥♥ who do exclusive deals. They could've just released it on both platforms (or even more). However they rather go for the money and cuck their customers.

I can't blame the devs, especially without knowing the sum of money Epic sent their way for the exclusivity. It is really hard to turn down guaranteed money to just to gamble that you could make more.

[AV]

tmaddox님이 먼저 게시:

BeerGrills님이 먼저 게시:

No, the devs are greedy ♥♥♥♥♥ who do exclusive deals. They could've just released it on both platforms (or even more). However they rather go for the money and cuck their customers.

I can't blame the devs, especially without knowing the sum of money Epic sent their way for the exclusivity. It is really hard to turn down guaranteed money to just to gamble that you could make more.

That's the same logic that gave us all of modern gaming's most revolting concepts, though. Eg. P2W, loot boxes, addictive skinner box mobile games. I get what you're saying but it's a huge red flag.

[Endgunner]

Yes Epic is all well and good, untill they stop makeing sales 2 days from now and everybody pirates the game so they can connect it to thier steam library so the dev makes less money. Mabey 40% of what steam would have gotten them if even that. The 30% demand is more for how popular steam is you must realize.

[Blowfeld]

tmaddox님이 먼저 게시:

BeerGrills님이 먼저 게시:

No, the devs are greedy ♥♥♥♥♥ who do exclusive deals. They could've just released it on both platforms (or even more). However they rather go for the money and cuck their customers.

I can't blame the devs, especially without knowing the sum of money Epic sent their way for the exclusivity. It is really hard to turn down guaranteed money to just to gamble that you could make more.

Yeah, if somebody gave me a good deal for the hard work my company has put out in the field and it guarantees that I can safely pay all my employees, then I would have taken the deal, too. Especially when it comes with developer friendly conditions.

I mean, everybody that owns a PC can buy the game. It is not that they are locked out of anything.
Playing the game with my best friend. It is fun. We both had to install the client, took 30 seconds. Woohoo, big deal ;)

[Mutant Overlord]

baukereg님이 먼저 게시:

I understand everyone's frustration, but keep in mind:

Valve demands 30% revenues from the developer with♥♥♥♥♥♥support, while Epic only demands 12% and offers a way better service to developers. Many small game developers are having a hard time to break even financially. Ofcourse they want to sell their games to the best possible outcome for them.

Don't blame the developers, blame Valve for questionable policies.

Yeah, blame Valve that Epic is paying indie developers to be time or full exclusives on their low level store.

Yeah, blame Valve that I cannot buy this game on their store because of anti consumer bullcrap that Epic is doing.

Yeah, blame Valve that indie developers will get zero sales because they did decide to go and be exclusive on Epic store.

What an amazing logic you got there, you idiot.

[Endgunner]

The more cut for the devs does not matter if nobody is buying the games...

[UncertainZero]

baukereg님이 먼저 게시:

I understand everyone's frustration, but keep in mind:

Valve demands 30% revenues from the developer with♥♥♥♥♥♥support, while Epic only demands 12% and offers a way better service to developers. Many small game developers are having a hard time to break even financially. Ofcourse they want to sell their games to the best possible outcome for them.

Don't blame the developers, blame Valve for questionable policies.

I supposed we also then have to blame GOG (it's not there) and Humble (it's not there) and every other single store front on PC except for epic (it's not there)?

Give me a break... this isn't about steam, this is about Epic's store and anti-consumer devs.

I will blame the devs and they deserve every bit of it.

[Kazmor]

Well they knew about valves % from the beginning, so what they now did is using their plattform to promote the game and then never release it - thats totaly their fault and not valves. If they woud have decided to not go with steam from the beginning I woud honestly respect this. But using this plattform to promote the game and then not selling it here is absolute utter ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Sage Pirotess]

Stesm does not need to cut the percentage. They hsve the players snd buyers.

Epic haa 50% dupe accounts. Pc and phone same user. 1/4 minirs no cc. And adults who mist wont give a heck about their gsmes.

Even their 2 week new game giveaway, stesm gives more a year away for free.

Regsrdless if its dteam, humbke bundle stesm keys or other websites.

Evrn Adgen kaunched full priice, steam woukd of 10% off and accepted money worldwide. Epic cant.

There is not one way epic is better than steam gor the players.

[Mutant Overlord]

Sage Pirotess님이 먼저 게시:

Stesm does not need to cut the percentage. They hsve the players snd buyers.

Epic haa 50% dupe accounts. Pc and phone same user. 1/4 minirs no cc. And adults who mist wont give a heck about their gsmes.

Even their 2 week new game giveaway, stesm gives more a year away for free.

Regsrdless if its dteam, humbke bundle stesm keys or other websites.

Evrn Adgen kaunched full priice, steam woukd of 10% off and accepted money worldwide. Epic cant.

There is not one way epic is better than steam gor the players.

Could you fix your comment? Its kinda un readable at this state.

[Sage Pirotess]

MUTANT SPOOKLORD님이 먼저 게시:

Sage Pirotess님이 먼저 게시:

Stesm does not need to cut the percentage. They hsve the players snd buyers.

Epic haa 50% dupe accounts. Pc and phones are the same user. 1/4 of them are minirs with no cc. And adults who just wont give a heck about their games.

Even their 2 week new game giveaway, steam gives more a year away for free.

Regardless if its steam, humble bundle steam keys or other websites.

Evrn Ashen launched full priice, steam would of been 10% off and accepted money worldwide. Epic cant.

There is not one way epic is better than steam gor the players.

Could you fix your comment? Its kinda un readable at this state.