Solo tank builds aren't viable and I'm kinda sad. Shotguns are also complete garbage.

[♂Warrior of Gachi♂]

Enemies just ignore too much DR and crit too often for armor to make any difference.

The Burke fight is impossible to solo, no matter what. I have 16 DR but I still take 10 damage from regular hits because there's so much armor pen. No amount of regen can help.

Shotguns just generally suck. Stagger is useless, need to be close to do damage.

Don't repeat my mistake. Don't go tank build and don't use shotguns for solo builds, both are trash.

[Vince]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3002377189

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3006069688

[♂Warrior of Gachi♂]

Also the only way shotguns do damage is by crits, but unless you pick Dodge This you can't have reliable crits. 40% to do any damage with an attack isn't great. It's pretty sad that shotguns do less damage than a pistol or an smg and their special ability is completely useless (stagger).

[♂Warrior of Gachi♂]

Originally posted by Vince:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3002377189

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3006069688

Wouldn't other weapons perform better for Dodge This? That's sort of my point (part of it).
Is there a solo ranged build that doesn't use Dodge This? I really wanted to make a tank build with Healing Factor work, but it just doesn't for me.

[Mechalibur]

Fast Healer is probably the strongest heroic feat for solos. It's certainly viable- some people even managed with greedy solo hybrid builds that grab skill monkey and the zen mutation

[Stan]

i disagree with the take
because that's what i am
shotgun toting hulk
i'm soloing with ease
its all about character set up and
a map like vision on the game from progression
you have to manage your resources while scouting
for easier encounters at the same time know every stat, mechanic, exploit
and every intricacy of every piece of gear and weapons etc. everything.
your soloing so you have to know it all
this knowledge will give you the power to proceed further. Gaining exp is your friend.

[♂Warrior of Gachi♂]

Originally posted by Mechalibur:

Fast Healer is probably the strongest heroic feat for solos. It's certainly viable- some people even managed with greedy solo hybrid builds that grab skill monkey and the zen mutation

I'll keep trying, but it just doesn't feel good anymore. I am regening 20 HP per turn with the stim, but it doesn't mean much when a single enemy does that much damage to me (through 16 DR and half damage from crits via feat), while also disabling me in numerous ways.

I am looking at all those Dodge This builds and it's such a world of difference. A guy with a rifle just twoshots any humanoid opponent in the first turn at any range with 100% hitchance and close to 100% crit chance. My next run will certainly be some kind of Dodge This variant.

I would very much like to see a non Dodge This build, especially a tank build, take on Ol' Bub. If anyone has a video, or a whole playthrough of a tank build with Healing Factor I'd love to check it out.

[Mechalibur]

Dodge This struggles a bit in longer fights and takes more time to hit its stride. I watched the playthrough for the solo Dodge This and against Detroit, it was running on fumes near the end with pretty massive penalties from the regen consumed. As a Fast Healer, I got through it much easier and was able to outpace their damage with healing while my stat penalties healed up.

Burke is the Mags fight, right? That was also pretty straightforward, I shot Mags a bit turn 1 then cloaked. While cloaked, I moved up toward her and waited, letting the aggro stims wear off for the other 2. When the cloak expired, I just shot her at point blank until she died.

[skaudus]

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3077462889
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3077463151
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3077464084

Here's my very reliable solo Juggernaut build. I'll record beating Ol'Bub in a few hours.

[♂Warrior of Gachi♂]

Originally posted by skaudus:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3077462889
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3077463151
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3077464084

Here's my very reliable solo Juggernaut build. I'll record beating Ol'Bub in a few hours.

Melee is next on my list of solo playthroughs, thanks. I'll use this as a reference. Very interested in the Ol' Bub fight.

[CXXXV]

Solo tank still need evasion. Abuse those gas + smoke grenade to mutilate enemies accuracy

[skaudus]

https://youtu.be/fFDwzCxEQVk

Here it is, the title is descriptive.

First try, not even close to being in danger.

[Wrath of Dagon]

The problem with a tank build if you don't have good evasion is the enemy will completely mess you up with arm and leg shots.

[Wrath of Dagon]

This could probably be improved if there was a damage threshold before statuses took effect instead of requiring 0 damage for that to happen. Also grazes not doing full damage to shields/energy armor.

[Sardonac]

Not sure where you're getting the idea that shotguns are poor performing. I've found them to be brutal damage. Double shot shotguns are very efficient since they only penalize crit by -10, meaning that crit build shotguns take off fast. I'm less impressed with burst shotguns, but the 4 ap close range shotguns are very efficient damage per ap.

[xarfaks]

Also shotguns you find the higher tier shotguns first.
Pistols and shotguns have the biggest variety in the game.
You also get the energy shotgun pretty early.