Can I get advice for the ECLSS sneak mission

[Nachosamurai]

I have read that some people find it easy but I myself have found it hard, I have sneak at 3 literally tickling 4 (maybe I missed an easy sneak mission?) and the cloaking device, is there any way I can walk away with something from the ECLSS sneak mission?

[HuggyBear]

It was easy, but then they tweaked the stealth system in the latest ECLSS patch and it is no longer trivial for characters without feats and a sneak tag to do it. You should be able to retrieve the eye if you have tunnel runner and a cloaking field with a level 2 battery (3 turns of cloaking) , but you may not be able to make a clean escape. If you have sneak 3 and no stealth feats there might be a way? Trial and error is probably the way to go here.

[Cununculus]

Your sneaker should go left along the wall first.
Wait for the right moment to pass the camera.
Cut through the middle in between the two rows of sarcophagi.

Pass the next row on the lower side and go to the middle again.

Move to the tiles next to each sarcophagus when it is green.

You need biotech 3 for one
(Token from MC should do if not tagged)

Return via same route.

Wait at safe tiles to discover camera patterns and the best moment and target tile to move to.
Cloaking device can only be used once!

Handy things:
- High stealth (tag)
- No stealth penalties from gear
- High Dex for more AP
- Ghost
- Prowler
- Cloaking device with all upgrades, preferably Mk2 battery

Tags in lockpick, computers, and electronics.
Most people prefer to use Faythe for this or Mastermind MC

[Nachosamurai]

Thank you all for your advice, especially Cununculus!! I was able to succeed and get all three sarcophagi with only sneak 3 (and the cloaking field gadget)!!!

Edit: I do think it seems well balanced b/c it took hours of reloading to accomplish this

[Cununculus]

Well done!

Sharing the lessons learned; I had to ask for advice myself as well, but thankfully this is a great and helpful community.

[khargal]

Originally posted by Cununculus:

Your sneaker should go left along the wall first.
Wait for the right moment to pass the camera.
Cut through the middle in between the two rows of sarcophagi.

Pass the next row on the lower side and go to the middle again.

Move to the tiles next to each sarcophagus when it is green.

You need biotech 3 for one
(Token from MC should do if not tagged)

Return via same route.

Wait at safe tiles to discover camera patterns and the best moment and target tile to move to.
Cloaking device can only be used once!

Handy things:
- High stealth (tag)
- No stealth penalties from gear
- High Dex for more AP
- Ghost
- Prowler
- Cloaking device with all upgrades, preferably Mk2 battery

Tags in lockpick, computers, and electronics.
Most people prefer to use Faythe for this or Mastermind MC

Ya know, if ya got to the sarcophagi this way, without using cloaking gadget, you may even get to kill and loot 1 or both guards. But I don't yet have a solid recipe for this one

[Nachosamurai]

I did end up getting caught by the cameras at the end and "ran out", does anyone know if there is a difference between a clean escape and getting caught? Maybe more sneak skill reward?

[Mechalibur]

It's just Sneak LP and XP I think, although maybe it will affect things later? The rep hit happens regardless of whether you get caught.

[HuggyBear]

Originally posted by Mechalibur:

It's just Sneak LP and XP I think, although maybe it will affect things later? The rep hit happens regardless of whether you get caught.

Correctamundo, +60 Sneak SP and +90XP for a clean getaway.

[khargal]

Rep Hit happens the moment ya get the eye

[Iluvcheezcake]

Managed to kill both with assassin Faythe with a tag in stealth and the sneaking feats, but didnt manage to make a clean getaway since once you nuke both guards all tiles turn red due to cameras and once you move or end turn the alarm rings.

[xarfaks]

Originally posted by EvilBean:

Anyone manage to find a good consistent method of killing both guards looting all the sarcophagi bodies and making a clean get away?

Is that even possible?
I thought if you kill them the cameras go red.

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Originally posted by Iluvcheezcake:

Managed to kill both with assassin Faythe with a tag in stealth and the sneaking feats, but didnt manage to make a clean getaway since once you nuke both guards all tiles turn red due to cameras and once you move or end turn the alarm rings.

Is that some recent update thing?

I killed both guards a few days ago and didnt have any issue with cameras going red.

The pathing I used was.

Approach the top sarcophagus without giving any noise to the bottom guards.
Move back and forth in two tiles that only give noise to the top guard.
When she gets alerted enoujg to investigate she moves your way between the top and middle sarcophagus, activate stealth gadget, kill her, retreat to furthest away green tile.
Walk all the way behind the bottom sarcophagus to noise alert the other guy.
Hide in the bottom sarcophagus crevice.
Then in 1 turn move all the way to the top sarcophagus crevice.(needs 20AP for this path)
The surviving guard should path to explore in such a way that his back is revealed to you and you can just walk in and kill him.
Then loot all things and leisure stroll out.

[khargal]

Originally posted by .:

Originally posted by Iluvcheezcake:

Managed to kill both with assassin Faythe with a tag in stealth and the sneaking feats, but didnt manage to make a clean getaway since once you nuke both guards all tiles turn red due to cameras and once you move or end turn the alarm rings.

Is that some recent update thing?

I killed both guards a few days ago and didnt have any issue with cameras going red.

The pathing I used was.

Approach the top sarcophagus without giving any noise to the bottom guards.
Move back and forth in two tiles that only give noise to the top guard.
When she gets alerted enoujg to investigate she moves your way between the top and middle sarcophagus, activate stealth gadget, kill her, retreat to furthest away green tile.
Walk all the way behind the bottom sarcophagus to noise alert the other guy.
Hide in the bottom sarcophagus crevice.
Then in 1 turn move all the way to the top sarcophagus crevice.(needs 20AP for this path)
The surviving guard should path to explore in such a way that his back is revealed to you and you can just walk in and kill him.
Then loot all things and leisure stroll out.

I guesv its the corpse in the camera view makes it all red

[wizard1200]

Originally posted by .:

Move back and forth in two tiles that only give noise to the top guard.

This is exactly the point which i really dislike about stealth in Colony Ship, because it feels so gamey and is immersion breaking. It would be much better to create a 'make noise' action which generates noise at your current position or -with a feat- within a few tiles of your current position.

[khargal]

Originally posted by wizard1200:

Originally posted by .:

Move back and forth in two tiles that only give noise to the top guard.

This is exactly the point which i really dislike about stealth in Colony Ship, because it feels so gamey and is immersion breaking. It would be much better to create a 'make noise' action which generates noise at your current position or -with a feat- within a few tiles of your current position.

Now that's a good suggestion,