Delta Tower Workarounds?

[UlteriorMotive/MysticOne]

Hi All,

I was just wondering how people got around Delta Tower with the encamped people in Hydroponics?

My first playthrough...well, I had no idea what exactly I was doing so I just kind of rolled a generic character, I wasn't strong enough to fight him, not persuasive enough to trick him, and not charismatic enough to get a full party together to get a fair fight.

What solutions did you all come up with?

When I tried a second character after getting used to some of the mechanics, I became a weird shotgun bard sneak thief that didn't like people but could convince everyone of anything and tricked them using a stolen Regulator Badge.

I feel like I might have missed other options. I felt a little overwhelmed in my first ever try. OMG, I hate those frogs so much, stop biting my ankles, arghhh

[skaudus]

You can sneak round the back with Sneak 1, and there's some mischief you can set afoot if you have a little Electronics skill.

Also, having Faythe in your party will make the checks slightly easier if you want to go the persuasion route.

[Pink Eye]

If you're doing this fight solo. Some tips: Force a choke point - there's a couple of narrow spots where you can do so. Quite nice to funnel em' through. Here's a couple of my favorite ones that I like to fall back on:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2499240083
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2499240585
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2499240839
When in deployment. Place your character in a location closest to the choke point that you're going to be falling back on. Upon doing so. Blanket the area with gas nades. Except for your little choke point, don't want to suffocate to death due to your own machinations. Two is enough for first round. Just need a good amount of enemies taking tick damage from poison. Before attempting this, make sure you've got a couple of quality smokies with you, also main character needs to have decent evasion - very important, it's how you'll be mitigating damage.

These big battles are all about setting up and survival. Surviving the first few rounds is the real challenge. Setting up the playing field before enemy gets to act, is important as well; need high initiative. Once you're down to three or four enemies. Take an aggro stim and get to work.

[zecond]

Originally posted by skaudus:

You can sneak round the back with Sneak 1, and there's some mischief you can set afoot if you have a little Electronics skill.

Also, having Faythe in your party will make the checks slightly easier if you want to go the persuasion route.

How do you get them to negotiate without Faythe? It always is ether death by guns or frogs.

[Patroklos]

Originally posted by zecond:

Originally posted by skaudus:

You can sneak round the back with Sneak 1, and there's some mischief you can set afoot if you have a little Electronics skill.

Also, having Faythe in your party will make the checks slightly easier if you want to go the persuasion route.

How do you get them to negotiate without Faythe? It always is ether death by guns or frogs.

I think the only other talking options involve having a high combat reputation for a check to threaten them, or having a regulator badge with an impersonate check

[Pladio]

I think you can pass the discussion check if you have high enough Charisma and good speech skills.

[Pink Eye]

I always choose the combat dialogue every time. Sure, you can sneak or talk them down. But it's much better to confront them. Then tell them how you're going to beat them up. Real warriors don't need underhanded tactics! Of course, it's a really challenging fight and should be reserved until you're level four. But man oh man is it fun doing the encounter like that.