Crashes and Computer Re-Starts

[G-Money]

For a few weeks now I can't get game to run stable. It crashes hard and sometimes I get a computer restart. I've tried all recommended fixes; removed cloud sync; never ran mods; tried safe mode; verified files; re-installed files; turned off radio; sold off inventory; nothing works. Not sure what to try now. Running new MacBook Pro i9 with updated software.

[jjeff1955]

The only Real reason that a Computer will do a Random Restarts, is due to a Hardware issue, I have never had Software cause this issue ever.

Things to check for.
1. Enough Power Supply Wattage for your Rig. I have had Defective PSUs that will cause Randm Restarts.
2. Overheating issues will for sure cause restarts.
3. Viruses also cause a major issue of Restarts. Scan with an updated Malwarebytes or other good Root Kit finder.
Kind Regards.
Jon J.

[JollysH1]

Overheating? get a prog that will display CPU/GPU temps, and ambient temps, laptops need good ventilatiion, running them on a desk or on your lap will cause them to overheat and throttle back or shut down entirely.

[jjeff1955]

Originally posted by JollysH1:

Overheating? get a prog that will display CPU/GPU temps, and ambient temps, laptops need good ventilatiion, running them on a desk or on your lap will cause them to overheat and throttle back or shut down entirely.

+1

[G-Money]

Not overheating but spent significant time proving that was not the case.

Wiped out hard drive. Accidently re-installed High SIerra instead of Mojave. Now everything works great.

There are all kinds of Steam problems with Mojave being reported in sporadic groups accross multiple forums.


Come on Steam, it's on you....get your act together.

[someevildude]

I'm having the same issue in Win 10 with AMD. I get improvement with Virtual Super res, but still not reliable to play. I don't have this problem with any other game. For games running too hard on detail or settings too high, it will bog down and stutter a lot, but never a full blown black screen like I've been getting.I don't think it's Steam tbh, their interface is so easy to use without any issues. Support has been on the ball, far as I could tell.

The developers for Car mechanic is new to me. And going through the discussions, I can see there has been a number of small issues that are near impossible to fix. I want to like this game, I have not given it a review, I've already sent their support a ticket 2 days ago. I just can't give this a thumbs up if it's going to break my pc which I built from ground up. I do a bench test every now and again between games to see if I have any permanent damage, but so far it seems okay. That makes me wonder even more though to the fact, CMS runs really well on it's bench & yet, it decides to screw me at random points. It's never at a load point, using the wheel or moving parts. Just at the moment of walking from A to B, it sometimes crashes & crashes hard.

[meesha]

CMS 18 is a game that abuses hardware. Given the "intensity" of the gameplay, dunno why. Had to replace my PSU and order new cooling for the cpu. Had issues like described above, now they're gone.

[someevildude]

Okay, here's details.
Ryzen 5 2600X No OC
CPU Enermax Water cooling twin fan radiator
Rog Strix X-F gaming. Somewhat rare considering, but very reliable.
MSI Radeon RX570 8GB clocked at 3020. Memory at 1820
Vengeance 8gb ram stick, Viper 8gb ram stick with 15Lat
Additional fans X3 140mm
1 Light strip
PSU Corsair 850W Gold

I can't imagine power is the issue when using any calculator would estimate peaks of 340W. As for heat, my GPU has never reached past 67 C. Radeon has been known to run good for 5 yrs+ even at 80 degrees.

[someevildude]

Also important to note, my system can run Dark Souls 3 1080p @ 60fps when very few can. GTA V, Project Cars, Raceroom (Sim Racing are very high demand for anisotropic & AA filtering). Division 2 (came with CPU, but still good for bench).

My tv doesn't go behond 60fps so it should be self explanatory to settle at this point. I also plan to upgrade to an RX 590. I believe very strongly there's nothing in my system that is so flawed it can't function as normal. It has proven to be very capable and quite compatible since it's already managed overcoming so many problems others have had with any AMD combination.

[meesha]

Try running with one stick of ram. My guess is that the controller can't handle them both at the same time all the time, due to minor differences in some timings. Other titles may not be as demanding as cms, so they can run ok.

[jjeff1955]

I will try to help you if I can. I repair PCs for a Living.
Tell me your complete PC Or Laptop Specs, I will try and help you.
I need to know exactly what Model Parts and other stuff.

Kind Regards.
Jon J.

[someevildude]

Even though I built this from scratch, I don't suppose I could give all details to that extent. The GPU was refurbished from Frye's. My tower is a Corsair 200R, but I added a side panel window so that's one less vent. I'm running the game off the Samsung SATA hookup while the windows OS is on Western Digital W2. Realtec audio is built into the motherboard, currently using V1.0.699. The audio is always a real pain to get, no thanks to Windows & their auto updates.

I use a free version of Easy Driver to help get everything. I found it very risky for any automated program, but this one is difficult, but very legit. It even found updates to windows security after using a scan from it's own OS. I also have a paid version of Advanced System Optimizer: I hear it's not a favorite among gamers, but seeing I'm all SSD with a multi thread of 18000+ I needn't worry.

Now to be fair, I only recently discovered a dilema a few hrs ago. Upon booting the game, no overrides by Radeon are activated, unless I hotkey the overlay or just go to settings. If I wait for the menu, I can see 2600fps & of course hitting overlay then does not exactly crash, but close the window. I ran it for a long session since then & it seems okay so far. I've always had to do a full restart (not shutdown) to get the Radeon profile active, hence you hear the fan kick in. It's likely they may be at fault, but still this is the first game to be so stubborn.

Also, thanks for the help & taking the time, I'll keep you posted should anything unexpected happen.

[someevildude]

Originally posted by meesha:

Try running with one stick of ram. My guess is that the controller can't handle them both at the same time all the time, due to minor differences in some timings. Other titles may not be as demanding as cms, so they can run ok.

The BIOS Asus gives on this motherboard is super impressive. The exact version I use however is difficult & not quite so popular. All of the fans settings are very easy, but to overclock you'd have to know exact numbers in some pretty insane detail. Still, when I bought this thing, I mostly thought about circuitry, compatability, safeties. Being my first PC, I didn't want to screw anything up & it's still user friendly. And to further assure you, it has 4 slots, but I'm only ever going to need 2 (A1 & B1). Do not stack it like A1 to A2, because that's not the sequence it runs in.

[jjeff1955]

Warning Easy Driver is not your Friend, it has a lot of hidden Adware and not wanted Programs that will screw up your PC.

Do not ever use any thing that is Free without research it first.
Now I tend to think that you are overloaded with Adware and possibly Viruses from that Tool.

I know these thing, because I have been there and done that, had to learn the hard way.

Get the Free MalwareBytes and do a full scan and you will see that Adware is bad for your PC.
Get back to me after you are sure that your PC i clean.
Jon J

[someevildude]

1091 threats found, 8 min scan time. None of them are Driver Easy. This was in fact, mostly registries and keys from systweak (Advanced System Optimizer). This is actually very typical and expected since every spyware scan or system would expect only bare-bones for operating systems.

An optimizer would need access to system files for it to do anything. I've also had admistrative issues from the get go & systweak was able to make things very easy for me. To put bluntly I've had every possible thing for a pc to go wrong in building it, did go wrong. I've learnt a great deal & I'm also fully aware of how likely it is to get a bad download, especially off of optimizers & driver updates. Neither of these programs were easy to find. I will hang on to Malwarebytes for it's trial still, just for cross reference and comparisons. So far, I would consider that it found nothing new or directly harmful

[someevildude]

I just realized a big typo so let me clarify: it's Driver Easy, not Easy Driver. And I know about that one, entirely different. Sorry about that lol