Cases (aka Loot Crates)

[LogiForce]

I don't get the idea? What's so 'simulating' about loot crates? I've never seen any loot crates in any mechanics workshop... not even the silly ones on the Discovery channel where they build a car within 2 weeks or whatever.

So I wonder what the whole idea is? What does it add to the game?

Personally if you guys wish to go this silly route I'd say at least drop the simulator name tech, cause to be honest I think you are otherwise purposefully diluting an otherwise great genre of games. And yes, I also hate on Goat Simulator, Bread Simulator and other silly nonesense because of this.
It's like a pickup 'truck' driver saying to a trucker who drives a road train... yeah, I am a trucker too. I can even hoal more quickly than you because of my V8 engine.
Just utter sillyness.

Anyway... take the simulator genre seriously or let it be. Cause if you don't than you're just an eyesore for the genre from my point of view. In other words... stop with the silly loot crates.

[Tajine Ensorcele]

The basic game is not a simulator too. I mean as a mechanic I don't see where is the simulation... There's no liquids,no hose,some parts names are totally false,... And there's a lot of major part missing. Should be called Car Mechanic 2018

[Mechanic87]

Posts like this make me wonder if anyone even acknowledges the existence of other people anymore . . .

[Shirana]

Originally posted by Lel:

The basic game is not a simulator too. I mean as a mechanic I don't see where is the simulation... There's no liquids,no hose,some parts names are totally false,... And there's a lot of major part missing. Should be called Car Mechanic 2018

nope all names are correct here

[Golly]

Complains about loot crates ruining the simulator part of the game
The game where you can phase through the car to reach those hard to reach bolts.
A game where you can carry 20 cars worth of parts and a few crate engines in your pockets.
A game where no one sweeps the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ workshop floor

[glowpiPe]

Dude. its a game. There is so many things wrong with this games "realism" Loot crates is an incentive to keep playing..

[MikeTheGray]

Originally posted by Gollywog:

A game where no one sweeps the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ workshop floor

hehe

[Tajine Ensorcele]

Originally posted by LadyMinniva:

Originally posted by Lel:

The basic game is not a simulator too. I mean as a mechanic I don't see where is the simulation... There's no liquids,no hose,some parts names are totally false,... And there's a lot of major part missing. Should be called Car Mechanic 2018

nope all names are correct here

Didn't know that a flabby is actually a hub.
Did i said that you can put oil without oil filter irl ?

[sikwitit5515]

Not a whole lot of simulation when every RWD vehicle uses the same drive shaft, or every motor takes the same size piston and rings, with no crank bearings to speak of. Or the mystery of how the ignition coil just arcs electricity over to the distributor.

If you feel the word simulator should be dropped, it should have been long before the crates were even introduced

[MikeTheGray]

Simulator is a very loose term in games anymore. Games. You know what you're buying. Mechanic, Farm, Trucker, Goat... they're all just games. Crates really are the smallest speck of lack of realism you could mention, though.

[Apex]

This game is so far from beeing a sim like the earth is far from the moon.

But thats ok i Love the game.
Its perfect so.

10/10

[LogiForce]

Originally posted by Lel:

The basic game is not a simulator too. I mean as a mechanic I don't see where is the simulation... There's no liquids,no hose,some parts names are totally false,... And there's a lot of major part missing. Should be called Car Mechanic 2018

Agreed, but I just left them some room in regards to that because lack of manhours and funds to complete the game with all that content in one go. As in it might take time to improve with patches or even game itterations.

Originally posted by Mechanic87:

Posts like this make me wonder if anyone even acknowledges the existence of other people anymore . . .

Because...? Life's harsh, mate, and the internet is even harsher. You've got to have a tough skin to deal with it or stay away from it otherwise.
Besides that... this world has become one of 'everyone for themselves and God for us all', if you catch my drift.

Originally posted by Gollywog:

Complains about loot crates ruining the simulator part of the game
The game where you can phase through the car to reach those hard to reach bolts.
A game where you can carry 20 cars worth of parts and a few crate engines in your pockets.
A game where no one sweeps the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ workshop floor

Agreed, but I do consider that there are some design limitations with the game engine (Unity Engine I believe) that might make certain aspects very difficult to impossible to replicate. Unless you maybe go full on VR and use Vive Wands or something.

Implementing a weight limit would be nice. A realistic limit of 25 kg would be nice.

Lmao... if the floor can still be sweeped as it's too old and damaged. But yeah... used cars are dirty beasts for sure and it would be a must to implement in a simulation. That said though, I do also realize that a developer has to start somewhere building their creation and a dirty floor might not necessarily be the most import aspect.

Originally posted by glowpipe:

Dude. its a game. There is so many things wrong with this games "realism" Loot crates is an incentive to keep playing..

For you maybe, but I rather earn my way up the ladder than being just randomly handed stuff. Maybe I am just being old as I come from a time where games were still challenging to the point of utter frustration and controller tossing, only to make me pick it up again because for sure I wouldn't let that computer/game beat me.

Originally posted by sikwitit5515:

Not a whole lot of simulation when every RWD vehicle uses the same drive shaft, or every motor takes the same size piston and rings, with no crank bearings to speak of. Or the mystery of how the ignition coil just arcs electricity over to the distributor.

If you feel the word simulator should be dropped, it should have been long before the crates were even introduced

Agreed, although my guess was that this was due to 'lack of time' to create proper content on a per vehicle basis.

Maybe it should've been long dropped but I wanted to give them the benefit of the doubt in that they would go into a more serious direction. I guess they went the more casual route compared to say something like Automation, in which case I do think they should drop the simulator name for reasons as stated in the next response below to Tanker_in_tan.

Originally posted by tanker_in_tan:

Simulator is a very loose term in games anymore. Games. You know what you're buying. Mechanic, Farm, Trucker, Goat... they're all just games. Crates really are the smallest speck of lack of realism you could mention, though.

By that annalogy it would also be okay for garages and dealerships to sell Ferrari kit cars as real Ferraris... even though they come fitted with a Trabant, Lada or Reliant Robin engine.
If for example the Chinese market would sell such counterfit/fake Ferrari cars and massively put them on the European market... how would Ferrari take it you think?

Call it like it is and not what it isn't. It's false marketing in a sense as it fools people into thinking it is or will be something that it's not going to be.

[Irezel]

I like the cases, they add some chance to the game. Using the +1 - +5 parts ive got, i have added about 30 more hp to my car over just stock with all tuning parts and it will continue to grow as i collect more special parts. Them parts also increase the value more.

Idk about other people but after I got to lvl 30, i completely stopped doing jobs and just restored cars. But the cases give me a reason to go back to doing jobs which is nice

[Doc Savage]

Originally posted by Gollywog:

...A game where no one sweeps the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ workshop floor

+111

Bane of my existence that... I never worked in a dirty shop. That may fly in the old world, but here in the new one customer impressions are a Holy Grail kind of thing, and sweeping the Goram floor is the easiest way to start making a good one.

[DaveJC64]

Also why would you need more than one car lift in a garage wher only one person works, I tend to only work on one car at a time so don't need more than one lift.

[sikwitit5515]

Originally posted by DaveJC64:

Also why would you need more than one car lift in a garage wher only one person works, I tend to only work on one car at a time so don't need more than one lift.

For me they all get utilized because once the wheels are off the car can't go anywhere. Lift A is used for a frame off restoration (I just do them slowly) B is a car that gets worked on as i pick and pull parts from the yard and other cars and C is used for jobs, or to strip parts from junk cars