Engine Swap Pricing

[CraigChrist8239]

I just did my first engine swap since the update (I haven't played in awhile). I put a V8 DOHC Supercharged into a Ford Mustang. The Mustang was 100% condition both before and after, and despite the fact that it had 200+ more hp with the supercharged engine, the car lost value.

So how does this work? Are some engines priced differently (without factoring in hp), and the Mustang's stock engine is just more valueable? Or is it that the original engine is always more valueable?

[katzenjogi]

The 2005 Workshop Ford Mustangs are not worth to be restored for reselling. You can choose the engine of your dreams, but you will never get any bargain out of it.

Got one with Huyara Rims and Slicks where the wheels alone had cost about 8000 bucks - the car had about 6000 miles, the engine alone was worth 18 000 bucks, not to mention all the parts I had to replace in the restoration process - and I got only 14000 in return after selling it.

[CraigChrist8239]

Originally posted by katzenjogi:

The 2005 Workshop Ford Mustangs are not worth to be restored for reselling. You can choose the engine of your dreams, but you will never get any bargain out of it.

Got one with Huyara Rims and Slicks where the wheels alone had cost about 8000 bucks - the car had about 6000 miles, the engine alone was worth 18 000 bucks, not to mention all the parts I had to replace in the restoration process - and I got only 14000 in return after selling it.

Ok..... but none of that has anything to do with my question: How does swapping engines affect the price of a vehicle?

[katzenjogi]

Some cars do profit from engine swapping, some don't. It is written in the car's stats itself. For example a 2C V8 OHV Salem Spectre Fastback will never give you anything near 100 000 bucks, even if the mileage is below 200 000. But with a Bolt Hellcat or Reptilia with only a 1C V8 OHV you reach easily or break the 100 000 buck border, if they are below 200 000 miles. It is just like that.

If you make big profit with a car without engine swapping - you got more if you do it. If the car doesn't make sense to restore for selling them at all - like a Salem Flamo or the Lotus, an engine swap won't do the trick for you (Yes I know, you can't do engine swapping for Lotus....)

Engine swapping is only some kind of multiplicator for the bargain, if it's great without, it would be much better with it.

And if it's maeh without engine swapping, you would hardly get the money back you put in if you do an engine swap.....

By cars from junkyard, where you mostly build the engine new from scratch, it is not that harsh.

[katzenjogi]

Additionally you could try the following - just build some of the V8 or the other engine new from scratch, then you have the value of that specific engine shown in your inventory. That's how you can determinate which engine would be the most valuable.

Sorry for my bad english....

[m3c0]

Originally posted by CraigChrist8239:

I just did my first engine swap since the update (I haven't played in awhile). I put a V8 DOHC Supercharged into a Ford Mustang. The Mustang was 100% condition both before and after, and despite the fact that it had 200+ more hp with the supercharged engine, the car lost value.

So how does this work? Are some engines priced differently (without factoring in hp), and the Mustang's stock engine is just more valueable? Or is it that the original engine is always more valueable?

The value of an engine as a whole depends only on the value of the parts it is built of. HP output is not relevant. So yes, if Ford engine from Ford DLC (engine block and all other parts mounted) is more valuable than the generic V8 DOHC Supercharged and you swap it, then you could lose money indeed.

[CraigChrist8239]

Originally posted by m3c0:

Originally posted by CraigChrist8239:

I just did my first engine swap since the update (I haven't played in awhile). I put a V8 DOHC Supercharged into a Ford Mustang. The Mustang was 100% condition both before and after, and despite the fact that it had 200+ more hp with the supercharged engine, the car lost value.

So how does this work? Are some engines priced differently (without factoring in hp), and the Mustang's stock engine is just more valueable? Or is it that the original engine is always more valueable?

The value of an engine as a whole depends only on the value of the parts it is built of. HP output is not relevant. So yes, if Ford engine from Ford DLC (engine block and all other parts mounted) is more valuable than the generic V8 DOHC Supercharged and you swap it, then you could lose money indeed.

I see, now that makes sense. It would be nice if there was an "engine status" page similar to the car status page that lists the total condition for the engine, its value, etc. Also would be nice if someone put together a list of the values for each engine.... Maybe I'll post that here as I build them.

[BonPadre]

Originally posted by CraigChrist8239:

It would be nice if there was an "engine status" page similar to the car status page that lists the total condition for the engine, its value, etc. Also would be nice if someone put together a list of the values for each engine.... Maybe I'll post that here as I build them.

Maybe head to that great guide
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1146473030

Not sure that the prices do correlate with your observations though. From a quick glance (me not owning the Ford DLC) and assuming I looked at the right V8 supercharged (from the Reptilia R2) engine prices are not that of a big difference.

Worth noting that the price of parts MOUNTED on a car have a higher "sell value" than the same part unounted. There is a ratio for that value, but me not beeing a number nerd I truely don't give a frack as to what the ratio is.

I just know it's there from personal tests, because I found out that a broken part mounted on a chassis I didn't want to keep had a greater value than sold directly from inventory.