Body condition. Why does it have to be 100%?

[larsingem]

I really don`t get why used parts of less than 100 percent cant be used on a car. Order says minimal requirement 37 percent. The whole car is a rusty heap of crap but these ¤special parts" need to be fixed to 100%. Other non body parts can ne 37 (sometimes can,sometimes cant)`or more to replace. Parts not on the order can be any percent between 1 and 100 as long as the total percentage adds up.

What use do you get from f.x a 99 percent window from the scrapyard. In real life im sure most customers would be thrilled to get that window and save a little bit of money on the deal.

If someone can help me understand the reasoning behind all of this Im on the edge of my seat in anticipation.

I also just realized that the front window were in condition under 30 but not on the work order, I were however supposed to fix a front fender that had over 60 percent on it..

[SlayerOne]

The customer is always right. paint over rusted panels if you must, replace 60% panels while ignoring 1% ones. the only missions that require 100% fix are the story ones. Parts on the order for the others are to a number set by the customer, whether that be 39% or 87%, but these parts for repair are typically sub 15% to begin with, ensuring you have to repair or replace it.

[BonPadre]

Originally posted by larsingem:

If someone can help me understand the reasoning behind all of this Im on the edge of my seat in anticipation.

Please don't fall from the edge of your seat ;-)
Indeed, the first time it happened to me, I had the same reaction as you and it's hardly indeed possible to give you even a half decent answer. I'm like you I don't see any good one either.

Keep reading with the fact I'm totally joking ok ?

Originally posted by larsingem:

What use do you get from f.x a 99 percent window from the scrapyard. In real life im sure most customers would be thrilled to get that window and save a little bit of money on the deal.

Nah nah nah... there you are like all mechanics... you lie... WHAT save of money on the deal ??? you replace with 35% part or with 100% parts on jobs, you still bring the bill at 100% (at least in the game...). YOU are the only one saving a little bit of money on the deal ;-)

And for the Front window... if the customer is from a snowy part, where he never really removes more snow from it than the size of of a frying pan to drive, what good will it do to have said window in good condition ? he uses such a small % of it anyway. On the contrary, the front fender is very important, in case you skid due to said snow and go bump an other car ;-)

Anyway, tried my best to make you smile, but have no decent explanation, as I wonder why exactly like you.

That beeing said, there are parts that are not repairable, while some parts from exactly the same kind are totally repairable... same questionning to me.
Why can I repair all gearboxes BUT the I3 gearbox, the camshaft V8 OHV C ??? I also see same with some air filter bases, and covers, some are tagged as repairable and some not...
I think the game could get some love about unifying pieces and logics, but hey that's just me

[larsingem]

Originally posted by SlayerOne:

The customer is always right. paint over rusted panels if you must, replace 60% panels while ignoring 1% ones. the only missions that require 100% fix are the story ones. Parts on the order for the others are to a number set by the customer, whether that be 39% or 87%, but these parts for repair are typically sub 15% to begin with, ensuring you have to repair or replace it.

In Norway, where I live (And reign as an immortal god, obviously), the customer is not necessarily always right. You usually take the car to the shop and says something like:
"This car is going bump in the night, why is this so?". Then the mechanics check the car, tell you what is broke or at least the probable cause of the problem.
You can then choose to fix it, or not. If you want a cheaper alternative you can also get used parts in decent shape.
Every second year we have to get the car checked out, mechanically and structurally. It will have to pass the test before a certain time or you are not allowed to drive it anymore.

[larsingem]

Originally posted by BonPadre:

Originally posted by larsingem:

If someone can help me understand the reasoning behind all of this Im on the edge of my seat in anticipation.

Please don't fall from the edge of your seat ;-)
Indeed, the first time it happened to me, I had the same reaction as you and it's hardly indeed possible to give you even a half decent answer. I'm like you I don't see any good one either.

Keep reading with the fact I'm totally joking ok ?

Originally posted by larsingem:

What use do you get from f.x a 99 percent window from the scrapyard. In real life im sure most customers would be thrilled to get that window and save a little bit of money on the deal.

Nah nah nah... there you are like all mechanics... you lie... WHAT save of money on the deal ??? you replace with 35% part or with 100% parts on jobs, you still bring the bill at 100% (at least in the game...). YOU are the only one saving a little bit of money on the deal ;-)

And for the Front window... if the customer is from a snowy part, where he never really removes more snow from it than the size of of a frying pan to drive, what good will it do to have said window in good condition ? he uses such a small % of it anyway. On the contrary, the front fender is very important, in case you skid due to said snow and go bump an other car ;-)

Anyway, tried my best to make you smile, but have no decent explanation, as I wonder why exactly like you.

That beeing said, there are parts that are not repairable, while some parts from exactly the same kind are totally repairable... same questionning to me.
Why can I repair all gearboxes BUT the I3 gearbox, the camshaft V8 OHV C ??? I also see same with some air filter bases, and covers, some are tagged as repairable and some not...
I think the game could get some love about unifying pieces and logics, but hey that's just me

First of all I really appreciate that you are trying to make me smile, that in itself is a direct cause to make me smile and made my day a little brighter. I thank you for that:).

I`m really honestly starting to think they have like a crazy, possibly drunk uncle that also at the same time is the kindest uncle in the world with a charming smile. He makes all the big important decisions about the gameplay while others execute it to uncles vision.

They say: "But uncle. If the part is 50 percent, shouldn`t it be possible to use it on a car with a minimum requirement 50?

Uncle says: "Sometimes is... sometimes is not. Depend on glasses. If glasses dirty, maybe uncle no see numbers. Is fine tho.

They say: "Why can they replace the clips on the airfilter and get away with stealing the entire engine of a customers car?"

Uncle says: "Is good clip!" Clip shiny and there is four. Engine is only one. Have I not always told you this? You have to add the numbers together."

They really should fire him but its uncle Misha.. He practically raised them from when they were pups. He started the company and tought them programming back before he lost his mind and also before he started drinking. How could they possibly fire him, their bond is so strong...

Its a sad story really... Tissue? ;)

[Hans Blitz]

In reallife you would never make money if you replaced all parts to new, ♥♥♥♥♥♥ they get what they ask for nothing more nothing less. Its only usually story jobs that require %100 parts most new cars require around +90% but if the normal job only calls for 37% required i give them shoddy spare parts from junkers or other customers cars i've taken parts from previous jobs.

Those brakes need replacing son there at 35% and he only wants 40% repairs his lucky if he gets a new brake pad at 41%, brings the old fart back in for another repair soon aye.
He'll say something like geez those brakes worn down quick and you'll give him some bullcrap that the suspension is causing more wear on the brakes and it all needs replacing $$$$$$$$ thanks for your cash you old tool!

[Doc Savage]

We have a yearly inspection here. Some parts *must* be working right, others not so much. Sometimes the customer has a choice, other times the car fails inspection. Customer can still walk without a sticker if they'd like...

The game does little to simulate an actual customer though. That % bit is gamey as expletive deleted. The stories are just puzzles, and "recommended" work that would make a car safer or more comfortable for the customer is non existent. In the shops I worked we'd install a used Engine or complete rear end, but that was a rare thing. Never used brake, suspension parts. You get into too many liability issues new parts don't have.

And the customer is *not* always right. Business owners cave in fear of bad press/word of mouth thinking this will save their business. It's now a national issue where all news is suspect and people/businesses are guilty until forever because in your face book said so. Why be responsible for yourself when you can post a rant and get free stuff..?

Cheers..!

[Hans Blitz]

Hey the customer never thanks me when i repair parts to new that they never asked for because i've had to tear an engine down for a crankshaft and just repaired everything while im doing the job, talk about freebies damn whole new engines for the price of a few bad pistons.
Beside this guy is always bringing in his crap cars he bought for his wife and calls them brand new and there as shoddy as ♥♥♥♥ and wants them fixed to new, the clown ends up paying a fortune.

Can't say i blame him i'd buy the wife a crap car too, i just wouldn't pay to fix it!

[BonPadre]

Originally posted by larsingem:

First of all I really appreciate that you are trying to make me smile, that in itself is a direct cause to make me smile and made my day a little brighter. I thank you for that:).

You are really welcome, and for your info, you gave me a big large smile too with your story.
In fact I really love how funny this whole thread has derailed ;-) in a good sense of humour.
Really like that. Thanks to all of you guys ;-)

[larsingem]

"Hey team! The inventory gets clogged up and takes forever to get into!"

Solution:
We make 10(ish) new inventories plus the extra one we have for when you are outside garage" It will be just as slow as your own inventory as you fill it up and take much time to swap between inventories. There you can slowly move one by one the parts you want and if you have good memory you can slowly move one by one part back out when you need them.
Also we continue having our joke notepad that they will never have a use for and make them have to write anything useful down on actual paper with pencil.
Also make very sure that the players never can see what parts they already posess and give them no chance to bring any useful tools to check what parts are on junk cars that they might need.

Yeah... immersion sucks. We must avoid any new helpful tools. But lets make magic where players instantly reveal the condition of a few random parts when they are out and about!
"Yay, pixies and stuff!" "No Boris. Also stop wearing a pink tutu, we love you but it hurts our eyes a little bit."

Some of the game: A mix of brilliant craftmanship shaped to perfectly go together, a symfony of beautifu music,

Other part of the game: Sloppy loosly-fit mismatching parts, angry cats and dogs trapped inside a piano.

I suggest:

Make numbers match requirement numbers.

Make the game realize you are in the engine bay when there is no other possible place you could be looking into.

Make equal percentage parts stack so they dont take up one slot each in the inventory.

Make it possible to move all parts of a certain kind or absolutely all, between inventories. Preferably possible to move all the resulting parts from your personal search.

Make at a minimum the notepad possible to bring to the scrapyard and barns so you have an idea of what parts you need and be able to cross them off your list.

Make all quality percentages whole numbers so a 50% part will always be 50% exacly. Not some kind of 49,8% that you cant even see.

Maybe for funzies make it possible to auction away the car you spent all that time fixing up. Its not a programming mistake I guess but it seems pretty damn doable.

Just imagine how fingerlickingly good the game could be for more types of players.

Please message me personally should any of these things ever get fixed. I might actually cry a little of joy. If all got fixed I would be euphoric. I would darn near fly, lol.



     
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