My alternative theory

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Hello to all readers. I have a theory about what's going on in umineko that I believe in so much that I think it's true.
You can call this just a theory and initially be skeptical of what I write, but even so, you should read the paragraphs with the # sign.
So, I will present the solution in order from the first to the seventh chapter. For each chapter, there will be paragraphs in which I will explain the riddles. For each paragraphs, I will provide the red truth associated with the riddle, my solution, and the evidence with which I made the conclusion, since the 8th Knox forbids drawing conclusions without relying on evidence. If possible, all this will be accompanied by quotes. At the very end, I will analyze the motive of the criminal and some other little things.
I would like to discuss it or even argue, if there are those willing to cross the swords of blue and red truth.

A general description of the theory is below.

The Legend of the Golden Witch

1. First twilight, six victims: Krauss, Rudolf, Kyrie, Rosa, Gohda and Shannon. Found in the pantry.

Red truth:

I guarantee the identities of all unidentified corpses. Therefore, there were no body double tricks!

Solution

The red truth was an answer to Battler's next blue truth - "We can explain those murders with culprit X, who hid away using an unidentified corpse. After all, those three had their faces smashed. It's completely possible that one of them was a body-double corpse!". It destroyed his theory by guaranteeing the identities, that someone replaced themselves with the unidentified corpse of their double, in other words, with its guarantee it did nothing more than confirm that all the corpses belonged to people from the island. Therefore, the second part of the red truth denies the possibility of the trick with the dead doubles, but nothing prevents changing one of the victims of the first twilight into other clothes. Nothing prevents me from changing Gohda into Rudolf's clothes. Hence my solution, the blue truth: of all the corpses, Battler did not see only Shannon, the culprit could have changed Shannon into his clothes and disfigured her face, and he himself lay down in her place and Battler would not have noticed anything, because, as he emphasizes, he can identify corpses only by their clothes. Hideyoshi may not be an accomplice at all, because Shannon's corpse is described as half-disfigured (which may differ from the other corpses and simply be makeup), and the second part of the face is covered in blood, which is why it is unclear who is lying there, in addition, Shannon's body is littered with objects to make it more difficult to understand its dimensions. The First Twilight is a revolver, where the culprit is like a live cartridge among blanks, it can be moved around as you like between unidentified corpses. I will not reveal who the culprit is yet, I will keep the intrigue and do it later.

Clues:

These are all the words of the author and Battler's narration: "...It wasn't makeup, it was more like... their faces had been plowed...!", "The body that Hideyoshi was looking down on now was hidden in the shadow of a mountain of random objects, in a blind spot to George, who stood by the entrance. So George couldn't tell... whose body it was...", Battler about number of victims "I can't even count them on one hand!", "Shannon's" face is covered in blood "If the remaining half, soaked red with blood, had been wiped clean, that graceful smiling face might have peeked out. .........Only half of it".

2. Imitation of the Epitaph.

Red truth:

Her goal is not to make someone experience fear. And it isn't to have revenge on someone either.

Solution

In Chapter 1 and Chapter 5, Battler tries to figure out why the criminal is so precise in reproducing the magic circles. He assumes that the criminal is trying to scare the victims, but Virgil refutes this. The criminal perfectly depicts the symbols, so Battler assumes that they are being drawn for Kinzo or Maria, but Kinzo is dead and only Maria remains. Blue Truth: Imitation of the witch, like the impossible crimes, is needed to convince Maria of the witch's involvement. This way, Maria will not worry and will be calm until the end, waiting for the discovery of the golden land.

Clues:

"...Right now, no one knew where Grandfather was. We didn't know whether he had already become a victim, or if he was one of the culprits, but this state of confusion had to be beneficial to the culprit. By showing us the bodies that obviously, and making us all realize there is a murder case going on, the culprit had absolutely nothing to gain. Right, that was where we could 'turn the chessboard over'.
So the culprit's goal was to clearly show us the bodies. So, at the very least, to the culprit, the appearance of the corpses there meant more than the deaths themselves.
In other words, the culprit wanted to display this murder. To who?”, “But if that was all they wanted, they could have just drawn any old scribble that looked like a magic circle. It wasn't like any of us amateurs could be able to tell the difference between genuine and fake. However, this magic circle was genuine, and furthermore, it had even been written in Hebrew. So this magic circle had a message that could only be understood by someone with knowledge of the occult. This message was a form of communication.", "The last one.........is to show someone something. In other words, to make them feel fear. ...By following the epitaph, she gives the others clear notice in advance that the murders will continue.”

3. Second Twilight, two victims: Eva and Hideyoshi. Found in the guest room.

Red truth:

Knox's 10th
It is forbidden for a character to disguise themselves as another without any clues. Both deaths were homicides! It is not the case that, after the construction of the closed room, one of them committed suicide after committing murder! Furthermore, the murder was carried out with both the victim and the perpetrator in the same room! No method exists for the perpetrator to commit murder from outside the room!

Solution

If Hideyoshi and Eva are not accomplices, then the scene of them locking themselves with a chain must be real, so how did they get killed? They were definitely killed in the room, but I can guarantee that the most obvious trick, lying under the bed, is not used here. I think so, because it is very inconvenient, a person puts himself in a vulnerable position: he will not be able to get out whenever he wants, because two people will notice and attack you before you are ready to attack; also, you will not be able to make a lot of noise and what is worst, if you want to go to the toilet while you are waiting for the right moment to attack, everything can end very badly. How then did the criminal enter with Hideyoshi and Eva? It is very simple, the Criminal disguised himself as Eva, if the criminal and his victim entered the room, then it is no longer a closed room. The Tenth Knox forbids disguising oneself without evidence, and this evidence is indeed there. In the morning, almost at eight o'clock and before the first twilight is detected, Eva and Natsuhi meet at Kinzo's Office. But later, before leaving with Hideyoshi to the guest room, she states that it was closer to nine o'clock. It is unlikely that the real Eva would have made such a mistake, since immediately after the meeting at eight o'clock they went to the living room, where there was a clock and they were waiting for breakfast. Besides that, there are a number of circumstantial evidences, I will list two of them. The first, when everyone gathered in the living room and the conversation turned to George and Shannon, Eva did not express an ounce of aggression. The second, Eva was too aggressive when arguing with Natsuhi, who had a shotgun. This is strange, since no one in their right mind would do such a thing, but the criminal could, since as will be shown later, Natsuhi has a non-working weapon, which will be confirmed in other chapters. The criminal could provoke a shot from a non-working weapon without fear in order to separate the people gathered together.
Next, it is necessary to explain when the criminal replaced the real Eva. It was when Eva and Natsuhi went to check on Kinzo for the second time. We weren't shown what happened there, so the culprit could have actually attacked Eve and taken her place. Plus, it was right when Eve and Natsuhi left. This also leads to Natsuhi being an accomplice, being blackmailed like in episode 5, which opens up the possibility of who planted Beatrice's letter in Kinzo's office.

Clues:

Eve mixed up the time "The clock read a little past 8:00. 8:00 should have been the time to start breakfast. Normally, going over that time limit was a disgrace to the host." "Natsuhi nee-san was the last person to spot Father, right? I forget the exact time, but I think it was a little before 9:00 in the morning. Nee-san, do you remember? I ran into you just as you were coming out of Father's study, right?", Eve provokes Natsuhi "What's this? Are you going to shoot me with that gun? Go ahead. And if you shoot?! You're just desperate because you can't think of a way out, right?! Do it, just try to obscure the truth with violence...!!»

4. The fifth twilight, Kanon victim. Found wounded in the boiler room.

Red truth:

All of the survivors have alibis! Let us include the dead as well!! In short, no kind of human or dead person on the island could have killed Kanon!
Kanon did not commit suicide. Kanon did not die in an accident!

Solution

Beatrice cheated here when she said red about this twilight in the fourth episode. The thing is, Kanon never died in the boiler room, but did it in the servants' room in the presence of Jessica and Nanjo. Thanks to this, she creates the illusion that no one could attack him. But even though Kanon was wounded by the criminal, something else killed him. If you reread this moment, you will see that Nanjo came out covered in blood while trying to save Kanon from a chest wound. The thing is, the chest is full of blood vessels, and there is also a heart, and if Nanjo had made the slightest mistake in removing the bullet from his chest (he was most likely shot), it would have caused immediate profuse bleeding. In short, Kanon was killed by Nanjo's medical error, which caused his premature death from another sudden loss of blood. Since there were only two people in the servants' room at the time of Kanon's death who did not commit the murder, Beatrice declared that everyone had an alibi, meaning Jessica was sure that Nanjo was trying to save Kanon.

Clues:

"Normally, they probably would've started discussing the origin of that violent stench filling the boiler room. But after they saw Kanon, who was lying on the ground as if he were drowning in an ocean of his own blood, the stench wasn't important any more.", "Stains from Kanon-kun's blood remained on the floor. Judging by the large amount of blood lost and the ruthless shape of the weapon that had fallen carelessly to the ground, I figured that Doctor Nanjo's treatment would probably end in vain...", "Even though Doctor Nanjo and the rest did all they could to heal him... There was very little that could be done on an island like this without medicine or proper facilities...
However, Kanon was the only human ever to confront the culprit. If only he could give us some kind of clue... However, at the time we carried Kanon here, it was already... too late.", Jessica stood guard "Jessica was crouched in the corridor, crying in anguish. She had probably been taking care of Kanon until the moment of his death."

Сontinued further.

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Turn of the Golden Witch

1. Kyrie meets Beatrice in the hall with Genji.

Red truth:

Knox's 9th It is permitted for observers to let their own conclusions and explanations be heard.

Solution:

This case is usually used as evidence of Natsuhi's 19-year-old child, but there is no reason to trust these words: Kyrie could be lying if she is Beatrice's accomplice. There is evidence of this in Chapter 4, we are told that Ange received a letter with a bank card, these cards also came to the other relatives of Beatrice's accomplices, Nanjo's son and Kumasawa's son. In addition, Kyrie claims that she saw a person similar to Beatrice, there is definitely no such person on the island, otherwise this resemblance would have been noticed earlier, and there is simply no evidence indicating that this is a disguise. Therefore, I declare that Kyrie and Rudolf are likely accomplices in each chapter and will explain some tricks with their help in the future. As for this case, this lie was used by adults for their attack on Krauss, it is understandable because Rosa, having told about the strange witch, did not receive caustic comments from Eva, instead she nodded in agreement.

Clues:

Kyrie's words about the meeting ""...I also met with her. I greeted... well I really couldn't call it that. I exchanged a few words with her. It's definitely not something that Rosa-san saw wrong."", Rosa about the witch ""...I met her!! That was definitely a witch...! Believe it!! I definitely didn't see it wrong or hallucinate or anything! What... was that?!"", and here is how Eva reacts to this in the third chapter "Ahahaha. Rosa, you used to believe in that so much, it really frightened you, right? Don't tell me you still believe at this age. In the witch of the forest.", letter to Ange "...But it was a really strange thing to come in the mail, so I still had a faint memory of it. It was a strange letter, which I had no memory of sending, but which had me as the sender. I forget the destination address, but the named recipient had been Ushiromiya Rudolf."

2. # Battler's Sleepiness. Throughout the chapter, Battler feels abnormally sleepy, which doesn't happen in any other chapter.

Red truth:

-

Solution:

The first time he feels sleepy is after dinner when everyone was gathered in the living room. The second time is on the second day, when everyone ate a canned lunch. It's simple, Battler was given food with a sedative. In the third chapter, we learn that Rosa carries them in her huge bag.

Clues:

«Rudolf: Doesn't anyone have a sedative to use on kids...? You know, those silver pill things?
Rosa: I have some!! Yes, I'll search for some now and give them to her!!», «Rosa had bought a high-class brand of black tea from a famous store in Ginza. That had been prepared, and the inside of the parlor was filled with a very nice aroma... Since the children were together with the adults … At first, Battler joined in, apparently deepening his relationship with Maria, but he had gotten up early that morning, and was therefore attacked by a wave of drowsiness...", "...Aunt Rosa ordered all of us that, until the police came, we should not put anything into our mouths except safe foods like canned food. As a cook, Gohda-san must have felt very let down. As though he wanted to display his skill anyways, Gohda-san said that he at least wanted to bring the plates and pile them up with canned food.” - since the food was canned, this excludes the possibility that it was spoiled by anyone other than those who remained after the first twilight.

3. First Twilight, victims: Rodolfo, Kyrie, Eva, Hideyoshi, Krauss, Natsuhi. Found in the church.

Red truth:

Only one key to the chapel exists. It is impossible to unlock the lock(from outside*) to the chapel with anything but the chapel's key. The six people were already dead by the time they were discovered! All of their deaths were homicides! All six were genuine victims, and did not take part in a mutual murder! There was no simultaneous murder!! This morning, Rosa definitely took an envelope out of Maria's handbag...and from that obtained the genuine key to the chapel.

Solution:

No different from the solution Willa, Rosa and the servants lied about the doors being locked. Everyone is dead inside, and no one ever hid. That's not all, I will return to this castle of golden truth at the very end.

Clues:

Illusions to illusions. ...The gold truth locks the lock of illusions.

4. Second Twilight, victims: Kanon and Jessica. Only one body of Jessica was found.

Red truth:

The only master keys are the ones held by the servants, one key each. there are absolutely no types of hidden doors. This door is the only way in or out. The only way to lock this door is with Jessica's single key or the master keys, only one of which is held by each servant. the window is locked from the inside. Kanon was killed in this room. It is forbidden for a servant to be the culprit! ...Van Dine's Twenty Rules, Rule #11

Solution:

There is no point in hiding the criminal any longer, so it's time to announce it. Six adults are dead, George has an alibi, since he was in jail with Battler, and servants are forbidden to be murderers according to the red truth. From a narrative point of view, two possible criminals remain, Kanon and Rosa, and the correct answer is Rosa. Rosa has a great opportunity to kill Kanon and Jessica when she goes to get the weapon. Although the novel says that the death of these two should have happened before Rosa went to get the weapon, but this is a magical scene and can deceive us about the time of their death. Looking ahead, in the same chapter there is the case of Nanjo and Kumasawa, where first the magical scene happens and only after some time their corpses are found on the seventh and eighth twilights. Let's go back to the murder. Where did Kanon's corpse go? I don't know for sure, but it could have even been in the next room, because Battler didn't search anything in this chapter. How did the room get locked if both keys were inside? Very simple, Rosa planted the key to Jessica's room when she ordered everyone to search the room, and then pretended to find it. She used the same key to lock this room after the murder.

Clues:

"There was a chance that Kanon-kun's corpse had been pushed away somewhere. At Rosa-san's order, everyone searched throughout the room together. But there wasn't a single human hiding anywhere.", "Rosa: ...Quiet!!!
When Aunt Rosa yelled at us with a loud voice, we fell instantly silent. She was probably contemplating something. However, what in the world could that be...?
...Aunt Rosa walked around the room as though looking for something, or as though she was collecting her thoughts. Then, she found something on the side table by the bed, and picked it up.”, Rosa pretends to be a fool and pretends that creating a closed room was possible only with a universal key “George: ...Th, that's right. It's just as Battler-kun says! There was no need for them to go to all the trouble of making themselves suspicious."
Rosa: Yes. That's an interesting thought. Of course, I also thought that. If that's so, then the person who locked it wanted to cast suspicion on the servants, and locked that door without a master key. But that's impossible. Right? … How can you make the claim that there's no way to lock the door without using a master key? Isn't that a Devil's Proof, like Rudolf nii-san was talking about? Maybe it was locked by a method we can't think of."

5. The servants meet the deceased Kanon.

Red truth:

They would definitely never mistakenly think that any other person was Kanon!

Solution:

It's all clear here, classic, all the servants and Dr. Nanjo are Beatrice's accomplices. They simply lied, as Rosa asked them to, in order to cast suspicion on the servants. Battler confirms this with her blue truth in Chapter 5. Any accomplice can help create illusions, as Kyrie did.

Clues:

Battler's blue truth "The reason Grandfather's strolling around like nothing happened even though he's already dead...is that people who want to make it seem as though he's alive created an illusion of him. People who think the same way can share in that illusion. Then, they'll talk as though Grandfather actually exists and was with them until a second ago. That's why he's strolling around like it's perfectly natural. Because of this, the illusion of Grandfather is unable to appear in front of people who aren't in on this with Aunt Natsuhi. That's why they made up the story of him shutting himself away in his study and refusing to come out.", Terrible acting Years "It certainly, umm, happened right before our eyes! It was right in front of my eyes! However, that, umm... what was it... Even I do not understand!”, Genji’s inimitable excerpt “...At first... I believed that person, was Kanon.”

6. Fourth, fifth, sixth twilight; victims George, Gohda, Shannon. Found in Natsuhi's room.

Red truth:

The Natsuhi's room was exactly the same, just like usual. The door and the windows were locked from the inside. There were no fraud or tricks, no means of secret passage nor places in which to hide. Natsuhi's own key was in George's pocket, and the inside of the room was sealed off. Only the five master keys were left, and 'Rosa' was holding all of them. And let me say this: the parlor's the same. The key to the parlor itself is sealed away in the servant room. So unlocking it without a master key is impossible! The definition of a closed room remains the same as always!
Van Dine's first rule: All clues must be plainly stated and described. (manga)

Solution:

There are two circumstances that complicate the solution of this riddle, firstly, the isolation of Rosa, Maria and Battler in the guest room. Secondly, the red truth clearly says that Natsuhi's room was locked from the inside. However, my red truth is "the problem will disappear if you start looking for clues!"
Let's first figure out how Rosa got out. To begin with, how did Battler not notice her disappearance? Before Genji comes to report the deaths, we are clearly given to understand that Battler was sleeping. I have already mentioned the reason for his sleep in the second paragraphs of this chapter. Rosa herself simply pretended to be asleep. Now, we need to figure out how she got out. The doors were barricaded, so only the windows remain, but how did she get out without waking Battler? There are two different solutions here: one for the original graphics (including the anime and manga) and one for the PS3 graphics. The second one is simple, as the backgrounds for the living room show that they lead to the hallway of the mansion (Poor Ryukishi was probably so desperate that he decided to change the layout of the mansion to make it more obvious). And for the solution to the first case, we have a hint that we are given when they go outside - "No, maybe Aunt Rosa was right for being this cautious... Even though it was called a courtyard, it wasn't really a pretty place you could take a walk in like the rose garden. On the contrary, since it was surrounded by the mansion on all sides, it made you feel a little discomfort, as though it was telling you that even if you tried to escape to the outside, you couldn't escape from the mansion. On the other hand, thanks to that, even though the violent winds could be heard, the wind itself was blocked." As in the third chapter with George's disappearance, we are immediately given a hint that there is a side of the mansion where the wind does not blow. Hence my blue truth - "The windows of the guest room do not blow through the wind, since they look out onto the courtyard. Rosa could easily open the window and the sleeping Battler would continue to sleep." Otherwise, this description would be redundant and would contradict Van Duin's red truth, since there is no other situation in the novella where the fact that the mansion has windows where the wind does not blow is used.
Moving on, we have an ideal closed room with three bodies and a key locked inside, but there are only two corpses among them! Blue truth - "Gohda is a wolf pretending to be a dead sheep!"
To understand this, you need to take a closer look at Gohda himself. In the manga and anime, we are given a clear indication that he is lying by the door with his eyes tied and pierced by the dagger of sin. I don't remember where this moment is described in the novel, but I would be grateful if you could find it. Usually, his special state is ignored by those who adhere to the answer from Chapter 7, but this is again a violation of Will's red truth. Gohda is depicted like this not only to add mystery to this murder.
Gohda's body is by the door so that... It is better to hear when Battler's group approaches and not give himself away through stupidity.
Gohda is lying so that... The fake weapon didn't fall.
Gohda's eyes are tied so that... To prevent Battler from realizing that he is very much alive!
Battler did not examine him closely, and there is not a single red truth that would confirm that he is dead. Therefore, Rosa killed George and Shannon, and ordered Gode to lock the door from the inside.

Clues:

"I was napping in a sofa, and that voice also brought me back to reality.", In Chapter 5, we are told that the daggers are papier-mâché. "Though they call themselves the seven deadly sins, they're actually cheap, fake souvenirs.
.....Well, from the very beginning, I figured they were nothing more than paperweights sold at some shady souvenir shop.", Natsuhi's room clue ""It's simple. George-kun, when you return home, you lock the door, right? You twist the knob, *click*, right?"

7. Seventh, Eighth Twilight, Nanjo and Kumasawa.

Red truth:

-

Solution:

They could have been killed at any time when Rosa left the room.

Clues:

Earth to earth...

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8. #Rosa plants a letter for Beatrice and accuses Battler to kick her out. Battler meets Beatrice at the end of the game.

Red truth:

-

Solution:

Before fully solving the Beatrice mystery, I looked through some forums, videos with different theories (including the legendary one for 8 hours) and comments under them, and I can say with confidence that many noticed the fact that Battler first gets drunk before the meeting, but he gets drunk in the fourth chapter and nothing happens. For many, it became a mystery why this is so, why in one situation we see magic, and in another nothing. To understand why this is so, you need to read my text up to the second paragraphs of the second chapter, and then search the Internet for side effects when drinking alcohol and sedatives. The answer is hallucinations. Moreover, this event itself is evidence that he was pumped with sleeping pills, and for Yasu this would not make any sense, unlike Rosa. However, it is possible that it was not a sedative, but a sleeping pill, and after the alcohol he also overdosed.

Clues:

"Battler opened the liquor cabinet on his own and enjoyed the liquor to his heart's content."

9. Why is shkanon always the likely culprit in riddles?

Red truth:

If you accept me, all of the riddles will be resolved. With my power, any kind of closed room can be created or destroyed.

Clues:

It's time to clarify this point. Even in regular detectives, there is nothing unusual when a criminal tries to frame someone else, but ours is not quite an ordinary detective story, but a postmodern one, which is why such an ordinary thing is done a little differently, because the detective, like the player, watches what is happening from the outside and knows more than he should. And to explain this, we need to look at the spinoffs, namely the tsubasa series, Bernkastel's letter. In it, she mentions Rule Z, she calls it a labyrinth that is constantly changing and makes an analogy with the game of rock-paper-scissors. In fact, it is not the labyrinth that changes, but it has several false exits, which are reflected in Beatrice's red truth. As soon as we accept it, all the riddles will be solved. These words are true on three levels - and to explain it better, let's look at the mysterious letters with money from Beatrice. They were all sent to a very unusual address 1-2-34-567. Numbers, as an analogue of steps, were used by the author in his previous work, and it is not for nothing that they themselves are written with a hyphen. The number 34 has a direct connection with the culprit, who is called Sa-yo in Chapter 7, these are the first syllables of the numbers three (三) and four (四), and as you can see, 34 is not the end of the road. Since these steps should be understood metaphorically, each position corresponds to different outcomes of this detective labyrinth. For example, destination number 1 is to stop thinking and lose to the witch; 2 is to believe in magic, accept the witch and get to the first false exit, because once you accept the witch, all the red text stops seeming so impossible, because it's all magic; 34 - is to see that the culprit can be Shannon or Kanon and come to the conclusion that it is one person - Yasu - all the tricks become clear again, but we again get to the false exit, because our criminal has the magic of killing internal personalities with a snap of his fingers. Our goal and final address is 567 - an explanation without any magic, only tricks, and the true answer is Rosa. But our immersion in the depths of umineko is not over yet, and the most interesting is yet to come, I will repeatedly show that in all the tricks you need to take a couple more steps from Yasu to get to Rosa.

Clues:

«Rule Z's true colours are unknown.
By Lambda-Delta's speech, it seems that this component has a lethally bad affinity to me.
If we take 'that' as a hint, ...... what on earth could it be? For now, I assumed that this rule Z is a maze-like existence putting haze over the truth… Would it be alright to say that, for example, it is a maze of indefinite shape that constantly changes the shape, flexibly? I see, if it is this general idea, I may be able to explain it with the Jan-Ken-Pon game that Lambda-Delta speaks of.”, “And the destination address was in the Okinawa Prefecture. Okinawa Prefecture, Yaeyama County, Yonaguni City, 1-2-34-567.", "Beako's birthday is March 4 (3/4), and the number 34 is a reoccurring reference in the When They Cry franchise. In one of her tweets, she asks people to remember her birthday through either "Miyo" (みよ) or "Sayo" (さよ), further referring to Miyo Takano and Sayo Yasuda, who is also strongly associated with her self-proclaimed mother, Beatrice."

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The Golden Witch's Banquet

1. A letter for Maria.

Red truth:

Knox's 8th It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

Solution:

I tried to find many different solutions to explain how Rosa could do this, staying with her relatives all the time. In the first and second chapters it is not a problem, in the legend she could pretend to be asleep and go to Maria, and in the opening Rosa runs out into the street in the middle of the meeting. Here everything is more complicated, I tried to explain it with Ronove, who is hanging around, or to assume that Maria was planted with two letters, but I did not like any of it. What bothered me most was that someone was disguising herself as Beatrice, and we are given zero clues as to who it could be. In the end, I began to think that it was Shannon who disguised herself as Beatrice and handed over the letter. Looking ahead, I will say that I believe that Shannon dressed up as Beatrice in the 4th chapter as well. There is nothing impossible in this if you have acting skills. Moreover, in the 7th chapter Maria herself confirms that Shannon saw how Beatrice behaves. Knowing the example makes it easier to act. I was also confused by the fact that when Kyrie tries to ask Maria who gave her the umbrella, we leave this scene. As if the author himself says that it is not important for us, but then a logical question arises, what is important? This scene must be for something according to the rules of the eighth Knox, I started reading further and was able to find the answer! In the original, the eighth Knox speaks not only about evidence, but also that the detective should help the reader, expressing his thoughts, directing in the right direction. Let me quote Battler - "Maybe it doesn't really matter who handed her the letter. The important thing is who sent it. The point is that Grandfather wanted to cause an uproar by assuming the name of the witch. Seriously, that old geezer's good at riling people up. "

Here it is! Since there are no exhaustive clues as to who changed clothes, then figure out who benefits from it. The adults didn't think of this before, they argued fruitlessly until they realized that they all had an alibi. Let's do Battler's favorite thing and turn the board around and ask who benefits from giving the letter? To the one who can't do it personally, of course. For those who work as servants, even if one of them is actually the head of the family, there is no point in casting suspicion on themselves over and over again. Another matter is adults, who risk casting a shadow of suspicion on themselves from readers if they hang around Maria too often. Moreover, it is not difficult to convey the command to the servant to go and meet Maria, you can quietly give the letter when the servants come in to serve.

Clues:

Maria's Testimony "So, there were four of them: Genji, Shannon, Kanon, and Kumasawa.", "It wouldn't have mattered so much if that was all, but the adults had now started focusing on Maria, who had received the letter. They kept pounding her with questions about who had given it to her. Maria repeated over and over again that she had gotten it from Beatrice, but there was no way such a mysterious person could've sneaked onto the island. After all, this island's small, and there's no one living on it outside the Ushiromiya family household. Maria kept repeating that she'd gotten it from Beatrice no matter how many times she was asked", Krauss's testimony about the adults' alibis "Indeed. In any event, we were all being 'friendly' in our big happy circle until dinner, weren't we? All of the siblings have alibis. Only a servant could have handed Maria that letter.", "Most likely, somebody got Shannon or someone to put on the dress from that portrait... and cleverly got Maria to go along with their story. Though, in Maria's case, just seeing the dress would probably convince her that it really was Beatrice."

2. Rosa's panic when discussing the witch.

Red truth:

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Solution:

In the novella itself, no one focuses on this, but let me outline the strangeness of the situation. Rosa, who in the second chapter quite often positioned herself as an atheist who does not believe in witches and even refused to accept Beatrice, for some reason is terribly frightened by the letter and screams that it was sent by a ghost. Yeah, I believed it. And the thought of a mysterious stranger does not scare her at all. This situation is aggravated by the fact that she tries to make the viewer think that the servants also have an alibi. And she has been building up tension in the previous two chapters. In the first, she tried to thank the man who gave Maria an umbrella almost until the very end, thereby creating a mystical atmosphere. In the second, she even lies outright that she met a witch. Occam's razor requires that we choose the simplest solution, namely, that Rosa directly and with enviable regularity participates in the mystification of the witch. We will see this further.

Clues:

“...But all of the servants... said that they were too busy with the bed-making to have any spare time during which they could go to Maria-chan in the rose garden...”, “Rosa: Umm... A short while back, when Maria was in the rose garden and it started raining... it seems she borrowed a white umbrella from someone, and I wanted to thank them... Then, who? Genji-san? Huh? Um, wait a second, don't get me wrong. It's not like I'm searching for some culprit or anything. All I want to do is, as a mother, thank that person who gave Maria an umbrella in the middle of the rain...!”, “...I met her!! That was definitely a witch...! Believe it!! I definitely didn't see it wrong or hallucinate or anything! What... was that?!”

3. First Twilight, victims: Gohda, Genji, Shannon, Kanon, Kumasawa, Kinzo. Found in a chain of locked rooms scattered around the mansion + chapel.

Red truth:

There are five, one for each servant. These six are all dead: Kinzo, Genji, Shannon, Kanon, Gohda, and Kumasawa! There is no one hiding in the six rooms! All five master keys were discovered, each in the pocket of one of the servants! The individual keys were found inside envelopes alongside the corpses! In short, all keys related to the linked closed rooms were locked inside the linked closed rooms!! No key could be returned from outside the room using the crack of the door, the crack of the window, vents or any place of the sort!! All of them had what appeared to be gunshot wounds that were fatal! Murdering them from outside the room would have been impossible!! I shall say more with the red! When the five other than Kinzo were killed, the killer was definitely in the same room as them! I already proclaimed in red at the time that there were no suicides!!

Solution:

At first glance, it was impossible for Rosa to do this, since she and her relatives did not leave the meeting all night, but in fact this is not so. Ryukishi in "our confession" gives classifications of closed rooms of one person (I do not remember the name) and he divides them into types: the murder was committed before the room was closed, during the closed room or after it. Rosa could not kill everyone in advance and then move them to the rooms, nor could she kill them while inside the room, since only a person in a closed room could do this, but she could kill everyone after the rooms were opened, and now I will explain how. It is more or less clear that all the servants obey Beatrice, so there is nothing incredible if they build such a chain of closed rooms on order; there is nothing impossible in it when everyone inside is alive. But even despite this, how can one predict in advance that all the adults will not go outside and will not notice the preparation of the "prank" in advance? Very simple, let's return to the first paragraphs of this chapter. There are many ways to convey a message to accomplices. Here is my blue truth - during the meeting, Rosa suggested that everyone cool their heads and asked the servants for water, the request for water itself could be both a signal to act and an opportunity to convey further instructions through a note. Having received the signal, the servants began to draw circles on the doors and wait for the morning to burn the corpse of the grandfather and disperse to the rooms. Next, Rosa needed to kill the still living servants, for this she separated from the main group under the pretext of checking the children, with her was only Kyrie, who also cannot be trusted. Rosa followed the mansion and took advantage of the fact that all the closed rooms are in different places (two on the first, two on the second and one on the third floor, and then a chapel on the street), began to follow the group like a tail and kill still living people to whom Nanjo gave false diagnoses. There is one problem with this option, because according to the adults, they closed the doors with the victims before the police arrived, but they could have done this after Rosa went to each of them and killed them. Or they could have simply lied about it so that the children would be less tempted to go and check. One piece of evidence points to the last option. When Eva and the others go looking for George, they find the room with his body, and Eva first pulls the handle, and does not take out the keys, although it would be logical to take them out right away if she knew that it was locked. I do not argue that in the case of these doors, everything is quite speculative, because Eva could have instinctively tried to open the door with her hand, but nevertheless there are no strict restrictions and you can create many different blue truths as an alternative to my two options. However, I want to be careful with the conclusions here, since the sixth and eighth noxes come into conflict here. One forbids relying on chance, the other says to look for evidence. It might be worth mentioning Will's solution to this chain here, but it might be confusing, so I'll leave it for Chapter 7.

Clues:

"Rosa: I-I'll stay here. The children are sleeping upstairs. We don't know what's happening. We cannot leave them alone.
Kyrie: ...That's right. I'll stay with Rosa-san and watch over the place. Would you tell that to my husband?", on Jessica and George's unstable state "George-aniki and Jessica were crying over Shannon-chan and Kanon-kun's deaths.", the motive to keep the children at a distance and not stop to close the doors themselves "The adults had decided that the inside of the mansion was too large to be safe, so they had pulled out the guns and moved to the guesthouse, where we had been … Which brings us to the present. George-aniki had begged to see Shannon-chan's corpse, but the adults had refused, saying that he mustn't do so until the police arrived. That wasn't just because they wanted to seal all the rooms to preserve the scene. After all, the culprit who had killed six people was wandering about the mansion. "

4. Why do the murders continue despite the solved epitaph?

Red truth:

I keep my promises

Solution:

As Ryukishi said in an interview, Beatrice is a person who really likes to follow the rules. And Rosa mentions a couple of times how much she loves them. After Eva and Rosa met at the gold, they had a conversation in which Rosa offered to tell Eva about the gold she found, but she refused. Rosa reminded her that they had an agreement with the brothers and it couldn't be broken. Eva said that she didn't care. Eva decided to break the rule, for which Beatrice decided to respond in kind, pretending that there was no promise. So to speak, she made a mutual concession.

Clues:

« Rosa:...Nee-san, that's against the rules.
Eva: What do you mean?"
Rosa: ...Didn't we make a rule that whoever found the gold would announce it immediately? If you hesitate, the foundation of the rules will be destroyed, and that could lead to something worse in the future. With Krauss nii-san as crafty as he is, that violation of the rules will come back to bite you.
Eva: Don't be stupid. This is Nii-san's island. And that gold just now wasn't cash. We're talking about the liquidation of a vast 10 ton mountain, right?", about Beatrice from Ryukishi " R: Of course, if we assume that the culprit entered the room once. The culprit entered the room with the intent to kill Natsuhi, but looking at the door found the scorpion charm dangling from the knob. And when remembering that the rule was created that “rooms guarded by the symbol of the scorpion cannot be entered by witches”, left the room unable to murder her. And then, as a sign that somebody tried but was unable to enter, left the marks with paint on the door as if someone scratched at it.”

[irchisoop]

5. Second Twilight, victims: Rosa and Maria. Found in the middle of the rose garden.

Red truth:

Rosa and Maria died. The causes of death were as Nanjo diagnosed. Rosa's and Maria's deaths were homicides.

Kinzo is dead, Krauss is dead, Natsuhi is dead, Hideyoshi is dead, George is dead, Rudolf is dead, Kyrie is dead, Rosa is dead, Maria is dead, Genji is dead, Shannon is dead, Kanon is dead, Gohda is dead, Kumasawa is dead, Nanjo is dead, Those 15 are all dead. Van Dain 12: There must be but one true culprit (manga). Knox's 2nd
It is forbidden for supernatural agencies to be employed as a detective technique.

Solution:

Initially, I adhered to a solution based on the meta-possibilities of the red truth, which I didn’t like. However, after spending time and racking my brain, I found a better solution. But first, let me remind you that you shouldn’t trust the red. Not in the sense that it lies, but in the sense that it is the witch’s weapon, created to convince us that no other answer exists. But another answer does exist, and I will show it now. The main stumbling block is that Rosa was declared dead right to our faces—what should we do about that? Nothing, because there’s no problem here, as the blue truth states: Rosa died in 1967, hitting her head on sharp rocks at the beach. You might claim that this is some kind of deception, since Rosa is on the island and alive. Nevertheless, from my blue truth, two possibilities arise to solve the question of who killed Dr. Nanjo. Recall how, according to the legend, Rosa was killed—she fell backward onto a sharp fence, and her medulla oblongata was pierced. But exactly the same thing happened to the Kuwadorian Beatrice—in the manga, it’s clearly shown that she fell backward onto sharp rocks. Therefore, the first possibility for solving the mystery is the fact that we don’t know the full name of the Kuwadorian Beatrice. When Rosa tells her her name and surname, Beatrice responds, “A Tact from the Kinzo family?” This might indicate that this Beatrice’s surname is not Ushiromiya, and thus the possibility arises that her surname was “Rosa.” This is further supported by the fact that when listing the deceased before Nanjo’s death, full names are not mentioned—no one says that Ushiromiya Rosa died; it could well have been “Rosa Beatrice.” In summary, Beatrice had the surname “Rosa,” and her death is used to create the illusion of Ushiromiya Rosa’s death. The second solution is the fact that in the red truth about Beatrice’s death, it doesn’t say who died—it says “she.” But who can guarantee that “she” isn’t Rosa? That scene cannot be trusted solely because magic begins immediately after Beatrice’s death, and if the scene is magical, then the opposite could have happened. Ushiromiya Rosa died, and Beatrice took her place. The novel’s text somewhat confirms both of these versions, but both have their flaws. Still, by accepting the possibility that Rosa died in 1967, the mystery of Nanjo’s death ceases to be unsolvable.

With that settled, it’s now worth explaining through white text what actually happened in that scene. The adults, noticing that Rosa and Maria had gone outside, decide to look for them. However, Rudolf, who cannot be trusted, goes out to search and suddenly finds two corpses. Then the scene cuts off, and we’re not shown anything concrete. According to the novel, anime, and manga, Battler’s figure did not see their corpses, which is quite notable. We shouldn’t trust events that are shown when the detective doesn’t see them, and even less should we trust events that weren’t shown but were narrated as if they happened. An unreliable narrator is the author’s favorite technique. The blue truth is that Rosa pretended to be dead, and Rudolf and Dr. Nanjo helped her with this. Maria was either killed or drugged with sleeping pills; it’s also possible that Rosa killed her and told Nanjo and Rudolf that she had drugged her. After that, they were taken inside the guesthouse, and the door was closed behind them. This way, Rosa could have exited at any time through the door or window to commit crimes. Her weapon also points to a faked death. It would be very risky to attack someone with a weapon, even if they’re not aggressively inclined toward you. Moreover, it’s unlikely that you wouldn’t fire the cannon out of fear, even if just into the air, if you were pushed. The blue truth is that Rosa didn’t fire a single shot because no one attacked her! Additionally, not firing a single shot is an excellent way to cast suspicion on relatives (Eva) or the witch, who isn’t afraid of cannons. And the story about the witch not fearing cannons will repeat itself again.

Now, regarding the version that Eva killed Rosa. The problem here is that it contradicts the circumstances and the red truth. If Eva had initially wanted to kill Rosa, it would have been better to do so when they met at the gold, rather than when she has an alibi from one person, and even that is very dubious. With the red truth, it’s even simpler—it prohibits there being more than one killer.

So why did Eva lie about feeling unwell? There could be many reasons; here’s one of them: the blue truth is that Eva entered the room with Hideyoshi to tell him about the gold and decide what to do with it next. And he got so nervous that he started smoking.

Clues:

Our confession “She said that she wrote two stories and revealed one. However, that was also wrong. She wrote three stories and revealed one.", "Rudolf: Of course. We'll bring them back and give 'em a good spanking. I'll dash out there and come back. Lock the door as soon as I go out. Battler: ...Dad, I'll go with you. Rudolf: Don't be stupid. It's obviously a brat's job to watch over the house with Mama.", "As he shed tears, Rudolf scolded Rosa's corpse for being reckless several times, but Rosa would never respond to that again. They decided to place the two corpses in one of the guest rooms... and to seal it until the police arrived...", "This short barrel Winchester could hold only five shots. In other words, Rosa hadn't fired even once." If you believe the answers from the seventh episode, then Eve literally told how she killed Rosa and Maria "...I'm not even sure we should be assuming that it was someone she recognized. Maybe they suddenly attacked Rosa from the darkness and were about to steal her gun. Then Rosa fell, hit her head against the fence, and stopped moving. The guesthouse was nearby and they wanted to avoid the sound of gunfire, so they killed Maria-chan with their bare hands...", "Battler: No, umm, th-that's right! What about multiple personalities...?! Just like how you were originally another personality of Aunt Eva's, let's say Jessica had another, witch-like personality, which took the name of 'someone other than Jessica' and killed Doctor Nanjo...!! Evatrice: No matter what kind of personality she was possessed by, murder could not be carried out with her body! I wonder if you'll be satisfied if I say it this way?”, “It is forbidden for supernatural agencies to be employed as a detective TECHNIQUE. We cannot use that red truth DIRECTLY."

6. The Fourth, Fifth, and Sixth Twilights. The victims are Hideyoshi, Rudolf, and Kyrie. They were found in the mansion's lobby.

The

Red truth:

Van Dain 12: There Must Be But One True Culprit (manga). Before Nanjou's murder … Hideyoshi, Rudolf, Kyrie … were all dead! Kyrie didn't think that they needed food. Since going for food without a day wouldn't kill them, she claimed that they should not leave the guesthouse. And yet, she herself suggested that they leave the guesthouse to get food. Too bad, the reason she changed her mind was not passed on to anyone, nor was it written down. Until the last instant before she died, Kyrie's behavior pattern of 'not going to get food = not going to the mansion' was maintained.

Solution:

The solution to this riddle, when you believe that Yasu is the culprit, requires you to assume that Eva did the killing. This once again violates Van Dain's red truth. Those who have read the novel must agree with me that Kyrie is a rational person. Based on this, I declare my red truth - calling an armed man suspected of a crime to a secluded place is completely irrational!
It would be much better to interrogate him in public, preferably disarming him beforehand, so that he would be less tempted to resist.
In fact, the contradiction in Kyrie's behavior can be explained by the fact that she is an accomplice of Beatrice. The blue truth is that Kyrie could intuitively sense something was wrong with the order to take Hideyoshi out of the guest house, but as an accomplice she was told to lure Hideyoshi outside. When the three were in the estate, Rosa came from her room and killed them. In the novel itself, we are pointed out the fact that despite the weapons, all the bodies showed signs of a struggle, and their weapons did not seem to help them in any way. The situation is the same as with Natsuhi in the first chapter. Most likely, some of the guns have some kind of malfunction and the working gun only gets to the culprit. I explain the traces of a struggle like this: they tried to shoot back, but realizing that the gun was not working, they tried to force close combat as a last hope for salvation. To make it less obvious, the criminal took their guns with him.

Clues:

« The disorder of the clothing on all three suggests that they were fighting or running away. Since the three corpses were not found right next to each other, it is hypothesized that after coming into contact with the culprit, they attempted some form of resistance».

7. The Seventh and Eighth Twilights, Victims: Natsuhi and Krauss. Found in the rose garden gazebo.

Red truth:

There must be but one true culprit. Knox's 8th It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

Solution:

Another attempt to pin the lives of two more people on Eve's conscience. Only in this case, she already has 7 people on her conscience. The problem is that if we consider Eve to be the killer in all these twilights, then the chapter will have practically no mysteries. All my friends who went through the third episode after it began to strongly suspect Eve, which is no good.
When this crime is explained, they usually resort to the sleeping pills that were seen on Rosa, allegedly Eve stole it and began to slip it to everyone as an accomplice. But there are a couple of problems with this version. When we are first shown the jar of sleeping pills, it is already empty. So the question is, where is the evidence that Eve knew about them and when would she have managed to steal them? The second problem is the fact that Eve herself almost falls asleep after delivering coffee into which she allegedly mixed a sedative, and having fallen asleep, she herself almost chokes on her saliva because of this. I don't believe that she just coincidentally fell asleep at the same time as everyone else (Everyone fell asleep, except, perhaps, Nanjo).
In fact, Rosa has an empty pill jar, because before Eve went to solve the epitaph, Rosa went to help cook. Then she could have added her pills to the food, so when she and Eve returned, there was already an empty jar.
Accepting the fact that she also took a sleeping pill allows us to explain a couple more things, namely, that she talks about the witch without being her accomplice and why she runs away from Battler at the end. Here is another statement of mine, when Battler fought with Evatrice, he asked her to say that she did not go anywhere before or after the murder of Rosa, but she refused to tell him, and all because she really went out. Like many normal people, she decided to celebrate a big win with her husband and while they were in the room, she ran to the mansion for a bottle of alcohol. She has a couple of symptoms of mixing alcohol and a sedative. Panic attacks begin to haunt her: she gets scared when she wakes up and finds out that her husband is not around. Moreover, the dream before this was a nightmare. Further, her aggressiveness and the way she treats Jessica is also a possible effect. Do not forget that she went to the toilet, diarrhea is also a possible symptom, and most importantly, in fact, she could not choke on saliva, but practically stop breathing in her sleep and begin to suffocate. One of the most dangerous symptoms when mixing alcohol with a sedative is the depression of respiratory function. In reality, Rosa killed Krauss and Natsuhi when Eva went to the toilet, where she could have fallen asleep again, followed by Natsuhi and Krauss, allowing Rosa to emerge from her hiding place inside the guest house and kill the sleeping men with steel wire to avoid making any noise, then carry their corpses out of her room's window into the rose garden.

Clues:

Help with cooking "Rosa: Nee-san, shouldn't we also help prepare breakfast? Eva: Then you go help. I'm busy solving this!", Breathing problems "She spoke bravely, but she couldn't hide her rough breathing. It seemed that the fever, which had been calmed with medicine for a short time, had returned. It was very obvious that Eva's health was not good." and "She could no longer answer that question herself…...! *cough*cough*cough*!! *cough*cough*cough*!! It seemed that, half-asleep, she had gotten some saliva caught in her windpipe just as she was dozing off. Eva suddenly started coughing.”, Eva’s aggression “The sudden sound of a gunshot shook me out of my half-asleep trance. Smoke was rising out of the barrel of the gun Aunt Eva held. Jessica had fallen to the floor and was covering both her eyes. Aunt Eva and Doctor Nanjo were looking down at her in shock... ", Panic Attacks " Outside?!?! Wh-Wh-Why, why did he go outside, after he promised that he'd stay with me the whole time?! You mustn't go outside, the witch is outside, you mustn't go, you'll be killed!! Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaahhh...!! ", Eva's Nightmares "The crash of a thunderbolt woke Eva from her nightmare.", refusal to repeat that Eva did not come out "Battler: Repetition requested!! 'Aunt Eva was also in the room for the entire time before and after the crime'!! Eva: I-I refuse to repeat it...!", "Without hiding her displeasure, Rosa grabbed the handbag that had been set on the sofa and fished around for some medicine. It seemed she had brought some child-use sedatives for Maria's tantrums. She found it and opened the bottle, but it must have been empty. Irritated, Rosa shook the bottle several times, but that didn't change the fact that nothing was in there. As she did that, Maria's crying grew even more intense...”

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8. Why, when they searched the entire house for George, Natsuhi and Krauss to find open doors, why did no one notice anything strange in the room with Rosa's body?

Red truth:

-

Solution:

Blue truth - Nanjo could have checked the room with Rosa, and he can't be trusted. Something like that)

Clues:

Instead of evidence, the devil's proof.

9. Eva is not an accomplice, but at the same time, the code to the bank card is written on the door with George's corpse.

Red truth:

I keep my promises.

Solution:

There is no contradiction. Rosa knows that on the second day at 00:00 hours, a megabomb will explode and destroy all the gold. Giving Eva the card and leaving her alive is the only way to fulfill the promise. Yes, we did not see the card itself, but there are many ways to pass it on and the easiest is to the forehead, if you do not want to live.

Clues:

“I'd heard about the eerie magic circles written on doors, like the one on the parlor, from the adults. Eerie is the only word to describe that thing, which was scribbled with a deep-red paint, reminiscent of blood, so that it slowly dripped down. However, that had supposedly been there since this morning...Wondering why Aunt Eva, who had supposedly seen it already, would think it odd now, Jessica and I stared at the door... "

10. Resurrection of Shannon and Kanon in magical scenes.

Red truth:

There shall be no descriptive passages beyond what is necessary for the story.(Van Dain)

Solution:

Beatrice's game implies that a variety of things must make sense, including magical scenes. Chapter 7 suggests that we explain this case by saying that Yasu is a murderer and is still alive, but let me tell you. Red truth - I can give another explanation. I will do it using the example of the scene with Jessica. She herself was blinded and could not see anything, only hear. A crime has occurred, and she is in complete panic, and then suddenly, she hears the voice of her beloved ... and tells her that he is already dead. All this is very similar to what happened in Chapter 4, when Battler also received phone calls from the dead, or rather those who called themselves that. And here is the solution, in the seventh chapter, when the theater-goer's powers were used on Jessica, we are clearly given to understand that it was not Maria who made the call at night, but it was definitely her voice. This is a clear reference to the tape recorder. As in the case with Maria, Rosa recorded the voices of Shannon and Kanon, and then played them back. Jessica was in a panic and blind, so clinging to her last hope, she followed the voice. Moreover, Kanon's voice itself notes that he is here for a short time. Of course, not for long, because the recording on the tape recorder is not endless, then only repeat. George was not blind, so upon hearing Shannon's voice, the illusion immediately collapsed, and he was killed.

Clues:

"She searched around with her hands, trying to find some way to escape. But even though she should have known this room well, just being unable to see made it like a closed room of darkness. She ran into a shelf or something, and things like a candy jars and bottles fell down, hitting her on the head. As she was now, it would've been tough for her to even guard her head to block it. She was painfully aware of how powerless humans become just by losing their sense of sight. Of course, she had no time to be impressed by this fact. She crawled around at random, trying to escape from that place, but she kept bumping into things that she didn't understand, getting hit by various falling objects, and it felt like the entire room was alive, bullying her and refusing to let her escape. Then, a footstep could be heard from that presence in the hallway. And then, a voice. She'd probably poked her head into the room, since Jessica had been so loud.", "No, it's already too late. I'm... already dead, or so I hear... Ahahaha, by the time you got here, Battler, I'd be a corpse with half its head split open.", phone call "Maybe they'd recorded Maria's voice previously. They then called at exactly 2:00 and pushed the play button. They could've cut the power at the switchboard or something.", add a couple of pictures:, with Kanon and Shannon in the third.

I won't go into George's disappearance, Battler told almost everything about it in this same third chapter.

Alliance of the Golden Witch

1. Ushiromiya Kinzo met Maria and gave her an umbrella.

Red truth:

No person would mistake Ushiromiya Kinzo by sight. No matter what disguise might be used, they would not mistake Ushiromiya Kinzo by sight!
Kinzo's life or death status is the same at the start of all our games. The setup was not different for the fourth game alone...!

Solution:

Before the meeting, Rosa says that, according to Maria, Grandfather gave her the umbrella. We are not shown a scene where Maria would say this, and she herself could not lie that she saw Kinzo instead of Beatrice. In addition, the red truth forbids anyone from mistaking anything or anyone for Kinzo. From this, a simple conclusion follows - Rosa is lying! Rosa is engaged in a mystification of Kinzo's life in the second, fourth chapter, as well as the figure of Beatrice in the fifth. In all of the first four episodes, she works to Beatrice's advantage.

Clues:

“Hideyoshi: But what was it Maria-chan said? 'Grandfather came and handed me the umbrella. Rosa: Yes, that's what she said. She clearly said that she received an umbrella directly from Grandfather'.", "Battler: No person would mistake Ushiromiya Kinzo by sight! It's the red truth Beato used to counter my blue truth claim that 'someone disguised themselves as Kinzo to make it seem as though Grandfather had appeared. In other words, on this island, all illusions which might lead someone to mistake something for Grandfather, including someone else pretending to be Grandfather, 'most certainly cannot work'."

2. Who greeted Battler disguised as Beatrice on the ninth twilight?

Red truth:

Knox's 10th It is forbidden for a character to disguise themselves as another without any clues. The sin I am now demanding that you remember is not between Ushiromiya Battler and Beatrice.

Solution:

Despite the tenth Knox, the reader is not given many clues about the person who greets Battler. And yet, it is definitely Shannon, just like in Chapter 3. What is really important here is that she got drunk for courage, but at one point all the drunkenness disappears in an instant. This is important because Shannon is not standing on that balcony the whole time. At the moment of the magical scene, a second Beatrice (the real one) appears and starts asking the first one various things. Afterwards, we are clearly told that the new Beatrice who appeared speaks differently and is very cold. In reality, Shannon went inside, and it was Rosa who spoke, so her character changed and the signs of intoxication disappeared. Also, the second Beatrice is needed in this scene to explain who conducted the exam (test) for Maria, while they were talking to us on the balcony.

Clues:

"Yes, in the portrait inside the mansion... The clothes were different, but that face was just like the witch of the portrait... Aaah, who am I kidding, I already know who this person is...!!", the second Beatrice to the first "...I'll be counting on you... to finish up the rest.", change in character "The witch who had questioned Battler hid herself, and the other witch, who had appeared from behind, remained. She certainly was identical, the same witch, but her expression was somehow indifferent and ice-cold, completely removed from the one who, despite seeming drunk up until then, had been in high spirits."

3. There is not a single clue at the scene of Rosa's death.

Red truth:

Van Dain 16th There shall be no descriptive passages beyond what is necessary for the story.

Solution:

This riddle has remained unsolved by more than one detective. But the solution lies in the solution to the previous paragraphs. Reread the dialogue between the two Beatrices. The real one in the long dress asks the one in the short one "does she have any regrets?", the one in the short dress answers - "no". The dialogue clearly hints at whether there are any regrets left before her death. And now I will describe Rosa's death to you. She put Maria next to her, aimed the gun at herself and fired, and Shannon, standing next to her, took the dropped gun and went with it to the well, tied a stone to it and shot herself. Ta-dam! We have a perfect crime scene, where there is not a single clue... The result, the detective is fooled.
There is also additional circumstantial evidence that Rosa did not die at first twilight, the thing is that Kinzo's shotguns contain 4+1 rounds. Which is not enough to kill six people, if you decide to break into the meeting and shoot everyone.

Clues:

"the six who had been killed in the beginning really were pitiful. The weapon used was probably a gun. Maybe their heads were split by something powerful, like a magnum bullet or a shotgun. It was a reasonable theory to hold.", "Wasn't Maria called out to the chapel and given a test...? So why was she in the corpse-filled dining hall, lying next to her mother, dead...?", about the evidence "As though sleeping with her mother, whose head was half crushed, Maria dozed in peace. For some reason, that contrast really bugged me. Including the direct cause, it's probably safe to say that Maria's death is shrouded in mystery... And more than anything else...", "A sawed-off custom rifle manufactured during the golden age of Winchesters. Besides that, it had its portability and romantic aspect jacked up at the expense of its lethal range. Also, if one can handle the unique lever action, one can also use it for rapid-fire like an average pistol. On top of that, the single-hand reload action using the characteristic lever handle will no doubt be irresistible to Western lovers. It can employ up to .45 long-colt bullets, just as Kinzo likes it. The number of rounds is 4+1 shots."

4. Where did Kanon's body go?

Red truth:

Kanon is dead. Among the five people in Kyrie's group, he was the first to die. In short, he was the 9th victim.

Solution:

Unlike the second chapter, in this one I can say where he disappeared to with more certainty. When Battler picked up the keys, the only one missing was the chapel key. He didn't even check it, so I think Kanon's body is there.

Clues:

"I thought this might be someone telling me to open the door, but after trying all the keys, I found that none of them fit."

5. Maria's death.

Red truth:

Knox's 8th
It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

Solution:

Maria's special death is a clue to the killer. Although Ryukishi said in an interview that Beatrice doesn't care who she kills in her games, this is only partly true. After all, this does not apply to the Rosa piece. Dlanor clearly states in the fifth episode that the pieces behave as they could, in other words, there are impossible moves for them. For Rosa, the pieces killing her daughter by disemboweling her is an impossible move.

Clues:

"I am aware of that. However, pieces cannot do things that are impossible for them."

6. Resurrection of Sakutaro.

Red truth:

This is my Golden Land...! A world where magic that isn't mine certainly cannot exist
This is my Golden Land!! A world where magic that isn't mine certainly cannot exist!! And my magic was not able to revive Sakutarou
That is a special stuffed animal! Made by Rosa for her daughter's birthday, and in the entire world, the only-

Solution:

If it was Rosa, then why didn't she know about the other Sakutaro? Turn the board over, gentlemen! All the red truth from Beatrice about Sakutaro was said with great confidence, which could only be afforded by someone who made Sakutaro with his own hands and who did not know that others appeared from somewhere. Yes, in the fifth episode we are shown that Maria still has Sakutaro, but in Anja he sees the mass production of these lions, this is the real Sakutaro Schrödinger. My Blue Truth - In Chapter 5, we see Sakutaro before Rosa tore him apart, and the mass production started after the events on Rokkenjima, thanks to the witch hunters who started producing Sakutaro as a souvenir. Because of this, Rosa didn't know about the existence of others, because she is a witch who exists from October 4th to 5th.

Clues:

Sakutaro from Chapter 5 "Because written there was 'DZL with Maria'......something she had planned to do with her daughter.
`Maria was in her room, playing around excitedly with Sakutarou and the others.", about Sakutaro in 1988 "Can't you two see it? It's that, right there. Can't you see it?!".

[irchisoop]

The End of the Golden Witch

1. First Twilight, victims: Genji, Maria, Rosa, Jessica, George, Krauss. Genji was found in the servants' room, Krauss was kidnapped, the other four in the cousins' room.

Red truth:

anyone looking at George, Jessica, Maria, Rosa, or Genji's corpses could confirm at a glance that they are dead. At a glance, anyone could confirm that these corpses are dead, so it is absolutely impossible that they are just playing dead.
After George's death, his corpse was never moved!
After Jessica's death, her corpse was never moved!
After Maria's death, her corpse was never moved!
After Rosa's death, her corpse was never moved!
After Genji's death, his corpse was never moved!
After Krauss's death, his corpse was never moved!
George, Jessica, Maria, Rosa, and Genji really are dead. Ushiromiya Krauss is not the culprit. And he was killed long ago, shortly after you heard his voice over the phone, get it?

Solution:

The corpses disappeared because they were just pretending to be at first, that's the basis. A more important question is, why is Rosa a criminal if she's dead? Here's the truth of Beatrice, who refers to the five corpses of the first twilight - "At a glance, anyone could confirm that these corpses are dead, so it is absolutely impossible that they are just playing dead". The problem here is the word THESE, who said that Rosa was among them? A little earlier, before this scene with the red truth, we were shown that Natsuhi was talking on the phone in the morning, and after that her husband was killed. My blue truth - By "these" five corpses they could mean anything, including the corpses of: Maria, Genji, Jessica, George and Krauss. Next comes the red truth, where Rosa's corpse is mentioned. The thing is that this red truth doesn't make much sense. It can be reformulated into the sentence "anyone looking at X's dead body understands that the person is dead." And Battler himself dealt with the announcement of the death of the victims of the first twilight as the red truth, announced by LamboDelta, in the game. Its announcement is worth nothing, because it was made at 00:00, when the bomb exploded and there were no survivors.

Clues:

Battler's blue truth "...The death proclamation was made at 24:00 on the second day...in other words, at the end of the game. That does not deny the possibility that the murder occurred after the morning of the second day, after the so-called `discovery of the crime'...!", Morning call ". No matter who...this man gives the phone to...that can't be good news for me...
......Gwah! Untie this...! Coward...!!
Huh?! D, ......dear?! Is that you?!
Gghgghghghghgh, mwoooohh...!! Untie it, untie iiiit!!
It was, without a doubt, the voice of her husband.”

2. # «Venomous trap».

Red truth:

In the fifth game, the call to Natsuhi on the morning of the fifth was not from Battler. There was indeed a threatening phone call. But the caller was not any of the eighteen: Not Kinzou, Krauss, Natsuhi, Eva, Hideyoshi, Rudolf, Kyrie, Rosa, Jessica, George, Battler, Maria, Nanjou, Genji, Shannon, Kanon, Kumasawa, nor Gouda. Of course, it was not Erika Furudo either! (manga)
Knox's 10th It is forbidden for a character to disguise themselves as another without any clues.

Solution:

In one of his interviews, Ryukishi said that in the fifth episode there is a certain venomous trap that will help to get closer to the solution. As far as I saw, no one has ever solved it. I found suggestions that it has to do with who called Natsuhi, the line of thought is correct, but not completely. Who called Natsuhi is only part of this trap. Here are some red truths from me - The people Battler listed in the eighth chapter of the manga did not call Natsuhi - the phone call was made from Rokkenjima - Kanon did not call, since he was knocking on Natsuhi's room door at that time!
"It's impossible, Yasu called!" - you can exclaim and you will be wrong. In fact, the chapter gives many clues as to who made the call, the most obvious is Battler's voice. I can already hear you indignantly shouting "what nonsense!" However, this is not nonsense, but evidence. The real secret of the venomous trap is that the Battler in the fifth chapter is Not Ushiromiya Battler. There are plenty of clues to this: he talks disrespectfully about Ange's problems, he's not afraid to go boating, he's too smart *joke*, and most importantly, his heart jumps when his "aunt" winks at him. And it jumped because Rosa is not his aunt! What happened was what Rosa said in the second chapter and Beatrice said in the fourth chapter - Battler was gone for six years, and no one can be sure that this is not another person like him who decided to become the heir to a rich family. Battler gives a hint to this to Erica in the sixth chapter, and Dlanor also directly points this out at the end of the fifth chapter. She notes that Battler was a detective until now, so why did he suddenly stop having an objective point of view? The thing is that he did not lose this status, so the figure of Ushiromiya Battler could not lose it, which means that someone else is hiding under this figure.

Clues:

Battler's six years of absence « No, the true Ushiromiya Battler would not have committed a sin. But a sin did occur in the end, that span of six years became a blank space, and a man who knew nothing of that time took on the name Ushiromiya Battler and appeared on Rokkenjima. That truth... goes like this.”, About the identity of the caller “The voice certainly did sound like that of a young man.
But it's a bit hard to figure out much about a person just by their voice over the phone...", About Battler in the fifth chapter of "Battler: This rose garden really is a masterpiece. It's gotten even more awesome than it was six years ago. You're so lucky to have this as your yard! Jessica: Are you kidding? For me, it just makes it a longer walk to the harbor, which is a real pain." Shame about Ange though. I hear her stomach gets upset easily?
`"Apparently. It's probably her intestines that are weak. She's got diarrhea all over the place. Uu-. You shouldn't say something like that about a lady" "Despite being my aunt, she gave me a wink which would've made a man's heart jump.” « Maria: Guest. She came by fa-ll fa-lling.
Battler: Huh? Fall, fall...??”

3. How does Rosa know about the child from nineteen years ago if she wasn't home for those three days?

Red truth:

In 1967, in a hidden mansion on Rokkenjima, Beatrice-sama existed as a human.

Solution:

Although the game itself tells us that Rosa left the island, it's suspicious, because she ran away to the forest 19 years ago, and the child also appeared 19 years ago. And what friends are we talking about? The manga directly states that she had no friends. There is also a hint at this in the novel, when Maria tells about an incident where Rosa cried and said that Maria was her only ally. In addition, Ronove says that Beatrice never had any friends either. In that case, I'll make a simple hypothesis, the blue truth - Rosa, before running away into the forest 19 years ago, told everyone that she was leaving with her friends, so that if she got lost in the forest, no one would find her and it would look like she disappeared in the middle of the city with her friends. However, she returned to the mansion when no one could expect her, because they thought she would return by boat. So she could have overheard or seen the child.

Clues:

"Which means... maybe about 20 years ago?", Natsuhi's conversation with Krauss "In less than three days from the time Father had entrusted me with the baby, ......I had killed it...! My husband had been on a business trip.
Rosa-san, who had still lived on the island at the time, had been traveling with her friends"

[irchisoop]

Dawn of the Golden Witch

1. First twilight, victims: Rosa, Natsuhi, Eve, Kirie, Maria, Battler. Found in different rooms of the mansion.

Red truth:

The rooms with the six people in them are all closed ROOMS'] Acknowledged. Of course, that's only until Gohda and the others severed the chains and destroyed the closed rooms. [Request: 'At the time of the deconstruction of the closed rooms, none existed within the rooms except the VICTIMS (Natsuhi, Eva, Kyrie, Rosa, Maria, Battler)'.] Acknowledged.
[Request: 'After the deconstruction of the closed rooms, then excluding me, only Krauss, Rudolf, Hideyoshi, and Gohda entered the rooms'.] Acknowledged. However, this only applies to the current point in time. It's possible that some later development in the game will cause more people to enter.
[Request: 'The six first twilight victims are located at the places where they were discovered. Natsuhi is in her room, Eva is in the VIP room, Kyrie is in Krauss's study, Rosa and Maria are in the parlor, and you are in the guest room!'] I acknowledge it.
[It has already been shown that Kinzo no longer exists, so please remove him from the word 'everyone'.] I acknowledge that everyone else is in the cousin room.
So, I dashed through the chaos-filled mansion, visited all the crime scenes, and...I re-killed all of them.
The manner in which they were each killed differed, ...but afterwards, she completely severed the heads of all those she killed.
All five people I killed...were very much alive until the moment I killed them. ...Everyone faithfully played dead as best they could until the moment just before I killed them, okay?
USHIROMIYA KYRIE CANNOT SAVE BATTLER.
Ushiromya Natsuhi cannot save Battler.
Ushiromiya Eva cannot save Battler.
USELESS. Rosa and Maria can't save him EITHER. ...DEATHDEATHDEATHDEATH DEATHDEATHDEATH <Die the Death>! <Sentence to Death>! <The Great Equalizer is Death>!!

Solution:

Here the cousins' room will help us, which has an unknown number of people with unknown names, and most importantly, Erika and I do not know what condition they are in, because she did not look in on them. As you can see, except for Battler, all the victims of the first twilight are women, and all in order to leave us a hint. The situation was as follows, when Erika began to kill the victims of the first twilight, Battler sent Jessica to disguise herself as Rosa, so that the maniac detective would not kill the real culprit. Jessica dies instead of Rosa, for this reason the adults discuss which room to send Jessica to, because they needed to hide her from the eyes of Erika and the readers. As for the red truth about Rosa being in the same room she was in, there's no problem. After all, Erika said that it didn't matter whether she was alive or dead, Rosa was just hiding there, or went out for a walk while Erika was there. The red truth "can't save" is not a problem. If Rosa saves Battler, it will reveal his trick, and what's worse, it will reveal her as the killer, which means doing it directly is an impossible move for her figure. With this knowledge, we get the foundation for solving the final riddle of the episode.

Clues:

"Ah right, Aniki. What about Jessica-chan...? She insists on being in the same room as you.
We were planning to have five people in the cousins' room and seven in the next room over. If Jessica-san wants to go to the cousins' room, it'll be split clean down the middle. If this was a wolves and sheep puzzle, there are now three servant wolves and you two sheep in that room. If you add in Jessica-san, it'll be balanced out.", "When I check the characters' locations as I am about to, I am not concerned with whether they are alive or dead. Think of it as the location of their body. And of course, I'm referring to the current point in time. Here we go."

2. Battler's logical fallacy.

Red truth:

-

Solution:

This was always obvious to me, but I'll explain it anyway. Episode 6 is actually like Episode 3, where the Game Master decided to play out a meta spectacle. Battler intentionally drove himself into a logical fallacy, since he couldn't help but know that Erika killed people. We are clearly told in Chapter 8 that the Game Master knows everything that happens on the board.

Clues:

"Ange's gone. Even I, the Game Master, don't know where she went.
`"That's insane...! Isn't this your game?! That doesn't make sense...!
.........If Ange disappearing isn't a scenario created by Battler, ......that means there must be another Game Master."

3. Kanon's disappearance from the cousins' room.

Red truth:

Van dain 16th There shall be no descriptive passages beyond what is necessary for the story.
All of those who met at the family conference acknowledged the presence of Kinzo!
[It has already been shown that Kinzo no longer exists, so please remove him from the word 'everyone'.] I acknowledge that everyone else is in the cousin room.

Solution:

The main clue here is that at the dramatic moment Kanon tells Jessica her first name, but does not say her last name. Since Chapter 4, we have had the red truth that everyone acknowledged Kinzo's presence at the meeting. Batter assumed that Kinzo was a title that is inherited, but this fact has never come up anywhere else, and Lambda Delta said that almost all of Battler's blue truth was off. So, let me tell you the blue truth - Kanon's family name is Kinzo, and his presence was acknowledged by everyone at the meeting. In addition, Erika said to exclude Kinzo from the definition of "everyone else" when asking about the cousins' room, which allowed Battler to remove two Kinzos from this list at once, and Kanon to have the right to walk freely around the island.

So I answered two riddles at once.

Clues:

"Good, that'll do for now. And I'd like to call you by your name, Kanon-kun. ......You have a real name...besides Kanon, don't you? I imagine it has the character 嘉 in it, like Kanon does... Wh, what could it be, ......ehehe..."
"......My name is Yoshiya.", Battler's Blue Truth "My theory's that the name of Kinzo gets passed on as the title of the Ushiromiya family head! Ushiromiya Kinzo was already dead. And he passed 'that name' on to someone else! Everyone acknowledged that!! That way, 'All of those who met at the family conference acknowledged the presence of Kinzo'!! There wasn't even any need to disguise themselves as Grandfather. Because everyone acknowledged a new 'Kinzo'! So, 'they didn't actually mistake Kinzo by sight'!! As long as this theory is not denied, nothing can change the fact that you're dead!!!", "Gaap: When you mentioned window seals just now, you were talking about the ones on the room where Kanon was, the cousin room, right? Then what about the windows on the next room over? All you've done is shown that the rescue would've been impossible for Kanon. There's still a chance for the humans in the next room over...! Dlanor: If you want the opinion of the Great Court of Heaven, please fill out an application in accordance with court PROCEDURES. … Gaap: I don't understand!! Can you respond to my blue truth?! Or can't you?!", "Know that it is forbidden for blue truth to be used if based on the argument that the window seals of the next room over were torn at the time of the logical error.", about saving Battler "It's now impossible......to claim that the five who could have saved Battler were the ones who did it...!", "I also realized that the windows of the next room over were left available... ......However, I hadn't imagined that the use of that argument would be prevented...
Doesn't this completely violate the rules?! I mean, how can a quiz be fair if you can't say the right answer?! Isn't this a logic error for the other side?!
......We can also view the fact that the tale is continuing as proof that it wasn't a logical error...
In other words, there's some other answer completely unrelated to the windows of the next room over...?
......Or, ......it may be possible to explain, without discussing the windows, how one of those five came to Battler's rescue."

4. Kanon's disappearance from the room at the end of the game.

Red truth:

The one who rescued Battler was, without a doubt, Kanon. At the time Battler was rescued, only Kanon entered the guest room.
I acknowledge it. From the time you entered the room to the time of the logic error, you, Battler, and Kanon were the only ones who went in or out of the guest room. Kanon does not exist in the bedroom. 'Kinzo doesn't exist'. The guest room was sealed at the time that Battler's 'corpse' was examined, so until I came again and broke the seals, it was absolutely impossible for anyone to go in or out. Therefore, when I entered the room, it is certain that Battler was hiding somewhere inside the guest room.

Solution:

This is actually a regular locked room riddle. The two solutions are cut off for us by the red truth. But the solutions for the remaining option - as soon as Kanon saved Battler and hung the chain, he immediately took it off and Rosa entered instead of him (most likely Kanon did not leave the room, she killed him). During the duel between Erika and Beatrice, only the maniac detective, Kanon's corpse and the culprit are inside the room.

Clues:

There are no direct indications of the correctness of the solution in the game. Only the answers to the riddles that the reader himself found before this will help to verify the correctness of this conclusion. However, the credits of the sixth chapter say that Kanon is dead on the second twilight and according to my theory, the second victim would have been the already dead Jessica.

5. Test of love.

Red truth:

Van dain 16th There shall be no descriptive passages beyond what is necessary for the story.

Solution:

Of course, this love duel still makes sense, but it is a little different. For starters, it involves not four people, but five. Beatrice the chicken is Shannon, and Kanon is a person close to her. All couples cannot exist together, since the fruits of love cannot rise at the same time. If Shannon succeeds with George, then she will leave, we know this from the sixth chapter. Kanon will not be sure whether he and Jessica have a future, nothing will hold him on the island, but rather even drive him away, in particular, hatred for Gohda. On the other hand, if Kanon succeeds, then he and Jessica will go far away, so that Krauss and Natsuhi do not find out, and as we know from the seventh chapter, Shannon had a very hard time on Rokkenjima without her brother, so Beatrice got Kanon from the orphanage. If he is not around, she will not be able to stand on the island any longer and will also leave. The situation with Battler is the same as with George, he is his alternative, which leads to the same result. The most important part of the story here is when Beatrice loses the chicken, she asks for help from the older Beatrice. The older Beatrice is Rosa (which we can learn from the fact that she was playing with opening windows long before Shannon appeared on Rokkenjima), who, judging by the seventh and second chapters, helps Shannon in many ways. Obeying the last drops of Shannon's love for Battler, Rosa (Beatrice) bursts into the wedding and saves him from a logical error.

Clues:

«No. ......A duel over love is usually a fight between two people both in love with the same single person. However, here we have a pair of lovers fighting another pair of lovers. ......This is quite odd.», «That is the purpose of our trial...!! It is to let the sinful souls regain a complete soul and become capable of true love!!,” “Do you really think that the status of a pair of lovers doesn’t matter?! Is a man who has a wife allowed to love someone else? Is a woman who has a husband allowed to love someone else? Are you allowed to fall in love with your parents? Are you allowed to fall in love with your children? There are many situations where status makes love unallowable!!", "Considering what day this is, even this duel is just a farce.", "Beato was born to love Battler and is disappearing because she has lost the qualifications to do that. … Hang in there, little sister, hang in there!! Weren't you going to solve Battler's closed room and save him?! What are you doing, getting finished off in a place like this?!! You call yourself a part of our complete form?!! P, people don't need a reason to like each other!! Don't disappear!! If you disappear, who will save Battler?! Little sister, Beato! Beatriiiiiiiiiiiiice!!
Little Beatrice: I am giving you my love for Ushiromiya Battler.
You must become the kind of woman Battler likes."

[irchisoop]

6. “...Even with you, there are no more than 17 bodies on the island.”

Red truth:

Hi, pleased to meet you! I am Furudo Erika, the detective!! I may be an uninvited guest, but please, welcome me!!
I am the visitor, the 18th human on Rokkenjima!!
"...Sorry, but..." "Even if you do join us-" ""That makes 17 humans.
[It has already been shown that Kinzo no longer exists, so please remove him from the word 'everyone'.] I acknowledge that everyone else is in the cousin room.
I acknowledge it. It refers to three people: you, Battler, and Kanon.
Of course. Three people--in other words, three bodies--went in or out. Only you and Kanon entered, and only Battler left. It has already been said in red that all people can only use their own names. Therefore, the names Erika, Battler, and Kanon can only be used by those people.
Knox's 10th It is forbidden for a character to disguise themselves as another without any clues.

Solution:

The main snag of the entire novel, which no one could get around. Which is not surprising, because in order to solve it you need to understand Beatrice's board, and in order to understand it, you need to solve most of the riddles, including the "venomous trap". How is this riddle solved? It has two possible solutions, the first is that there are 16 people on the island and one of them has two personalities. This option is needed for Yasu. The second solution is when there are 16 people on the island, but a 17th visitor with two personalities appears on it. And the correct answer is the second. However, how is this possible! If we consider Kanon and Shannon to be different people, there will be 18 people on the island! But no, because in the sixth chapter one person is missing on the island, or to be more precise, someone else appeared instead of him, the same person with two personalities! And this simple conclusion is made possible by the fact that there is a room with an indefinite number of people and indefinite names. Blue Truth - During the entire game, the only person not mentioned by the red truth was Genji, who was supposed to be in the cousins' room according to legend, which gives us the right to assume that he is not on the island in Chapter 6. Yes, I cannot prove this directly, but the game allows me to create such a blue truth and use it for further reasoning. If you want to say that we were shown him and that Erika even saw him, then do not forget that the reader can be shown cartoons, and Erika does not have a reliable point of view.
Why does Erika not have a reliable point of view? It's like with the fake Battler in Chapter 5. Erika's figure in Chapter 6 calls herself a detective, but does not have the authority of a detective, and all because the figure she controls does not have it. For the same reason, Beatrice, when telling the red truth, calls Erika "you". This is because "you" does not refer to Erika, but to the body she controls. We also have plenty of evidence that Erika is a different person, we are shown how her behavior has changed. She has become much more arrogant and harmful, her politeness has evaporated, and when she crosses all the boundaries of her harmfulness, George even has to calm her down with an offer to arrange a competition. The most indicative is her duel with Maria, which Dlanor calls childish. Now the question is, whose body exactly does Erika use? In another spin-off, "Summoner's Notes," we are told about the vessels and how they work. The most important fact is the similarity of the vessel and the summoned entity. Yes, this is really important, since Erika, although an independent entity, is still a product of the metaworld. And there is only one person who suits her best, this is the person who periodically says English phrases, is a witch of truth, and also cannot trust surrounding and appears together with Erika in one of the endings - it is none other than Ange. This is why Erika's behavior became so childish, because the child's vessel distorted her behavior.
The only thing you can reasonably say to my statement is - how could a child kill six people? Honestly, it would be better to ask Ryukishi, but I can assume that she only killed them with a knife, and their heads were cut off by Rosa, the red truth allows this since in the phrase about the heads it says "she", and not someone specific.

Clues:

Summoner's Notes "To visitors from another world, the human world is essentially another world. To manifest from their world, they would need a maintaining "vessel".

Needless to say, if you're trying to summon a visitor from another world without being competent enough in summoning, they will not be able to reach the domain of Humans, but instead, the void.

So long as a Human is aware that they were born in the human world, it would be wise for them to give up the far-off dream of even calling something to the void without preparing a host.

Hosts should also be suitable for calling up this visitor.

The more suitable the host is, the more powerful the manifestation will be.", Erika "<Good>!! Then why don't I show you?!! I'll make candy appear from out of this empty cup!!", Angie "", "Erika had wanted to hit Maria with everything at once, defiling the witch and magic she believed in and crushing it without a fragment of compassion... ......Sheesh!! Just one more step and I'd have been able to take a heart as innocent as the smooth sand just after a wave has pulled back...and tear it to bits. .........What a shame. This isn't any fun anymore. ............Are you satisfied now?!
Ouch, ...owowowow...... Erika grumpily punched Dlanor's arm that had been restraining her. However, that cold, hard, marble-like arm just made Erika's hand hurt. Dlanor: ......Know that this fight is childish.", "She was no longer a guest who would be staying until the storm passed.
She had transformed into an annoying guest who wouldn't leave until the storm passed...
Everyone thought this, but they were unable to say it aloud...
Uh, ......oh, right, speaking of problems with coins, I've heard that you can tell whether someone's good with chopsticks or not by seeing if they can pick up coins with them...
Chopsticks!
Yes, chopsticks, that's right. Chopsticks are the most elegant utensil on the planet. Poking things and chopping them up with forks and knives is so barbaric! Chopsticks are the best. For me, using chopsticks is truly an art.
Jessica was about to say 'isn't a chopstick just a stick?'...but stopped herself just in time.
She realized that it was best to let George take control for now..."

Twilight of the Golden Witch

1. Will's Solutions

Red truth:

-

Solution:

The solutions Will suggests in Chapter 7 do not apply to Rosa, but there are a few places where they intersect. This applies to the first twilight of Chapter 1, any solutions that mention the golden truth, and the first twilight of Chapter 3. For Yasu, the beginning and end intersect, since Shannon's room is opened first, and Kanon's room is opened last. In Rosa's case, the closed rooms started at point 0 and ended there, coordinate 0;0. Does this mean that Will lied? No, he did not lie, as a detective, he simply described what the Rule Z labyrinth looks like if the player got to exit 34.

Clues:

"Illusions to illusions. ...The corpse that cannot return to earth returns to illusions.", "Illusions to illusions. ...The gold truth locks the lock of illusions.", "Illusions to illusions. ...In the closed room ring, the end and the beginning overlap.»

2. Claire's Story

Red truth:

There shall be no descriptive passages beyond what is necessary for the story.

Solution:

This story is mostly true, as it tells about Shannon's childhood and a little about Beatrice, but it is embellished with fictions about the child of nineteen years ago. Or as Will would say, "Illusions to illusions. Fairy tales woven from golden truth return to illusion."

Clues:

"Bernkastel had given Clair a fake form. It was a temporary form, for the person acting the part of Beatrice. A fake to fool those who still hadn't discovered Beatrice's true form"

3. The murders continue even though Yasu is gone and Lion is there.

Red truth:

Knox's 8th It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

Solution:

The culprit is not Yasu, but Rosa, so no matter how Yasu's fate changes, the crime will still happen.

Clues:

One ending, one culprit ".....That's right. I'm her salvation...! So, I must live life to the fullest...live life for the both of us...!
Lion. ......Let me show you just a bit more of this tale of the truth.
I'm not interested! ...
.....That's right, there's nothing there. At least, not in this world. … Then, right there, ......a corpse appeared.
`But, ...that couldn't be...... "Wh, what's going on here......? Why am I here...? This is supposed to be Clair's world, not mine...! Clair and I can't exist at the same time, right...?!
Yes, that's right. That's because I just switched worlds...switched Fragments. Switched to your world, that is.
......I don't understand!
it's very simple. They both end the same way.", "Illusions...to illusions. ...The promised reaper lowers the curtains on the tale regardless of the witch's will."

4. "Who am I?"

Red truth:

Knox's 8th It is forbidden for the case to be resolved with clues that are not presented.

Solution:

The best person to tell about Beatrice is the one who knows her best, and that is Maria. Her story about the first meeting is exhaustive, only a parent dressed as Santa the Witch can make a child promise to behave well and wash their hands for the next year so that they will get a new gift.

[irchisoop]

Motive

Motive is one of those things that I want to be careful with, it's the easiest to take wishful thinking for reality. About as easy as attributing your own fantasies about someone to another person, but I'll try to be as objective as possible.
First, let's figure out what event led Rosa to the crime. The entire fourth chapter is chewed over in detail about the quarrel between Maria and Rosa, and it became the biggest shock. A rather random quarrel, quite ordinary for their relationship, could have remained without mention in the novella only if not for three irreparable things. First, Rosa tore Sakutaro apart in front of Maria, second, she did it in front of a government official, it could not have remained without consequences, and third, the worst thing for Rosa, Maria could not forgive her. In this same fourth chapter, we learn through the diary that Rosa considered her daughter her only ally. Losing her means being left alone, that is, forever lonely. This is what the state could have done, depriving Rosa of parental rights, but this could have been survived if Maria had not pushed her away. Her fickle and hot-tempered nature made matters worse, effectively giving her free rein. However, this is still not a motive, but only an event that created it. Next, we need to talk about another important thing for Rosa, and that is her principles, which in the novella itself are called "rules". In explaining why the murders continue in the third episode, I cited a quote about Rosa's own persuasions and rules, so you should already have a general idea. This love of rules is mixed with a rather dark worldview - she does not love her brothers and sister, lovers who ran away from her, and even her own daughter, whom she should love, she hates - all this makes her look like a lawful evil. All because of the lack of trust in others, we were well shown in the second chapter, how her suspicion of everyone manifests itself, we see the same in her relationship with her lover, whom she suspected of losing interest, which scared him off. She is one of the few who, in principle, beat her child and would be able to kill everyone else. However, killing everyone else without giving them the right to live would not be in her style, so this is one of the reasons for the existence of the rule with the epitaph (if it is solved, then there will be no murders). She checks whether those who called her stupid as a child have the right to live, whether there will be a person who is as smart as she is to solve the epitaph. I also assume that Battler's promise is also one of the tests so as not to kill everyone. Rosa herself was betrayed by Maria's father, who promised to return, but then disappeared, so whether Battler would remember his promise was also very important. For this, Shannon always goes with the cousins on the first day to check whether Battler remembers the promise.
The general picture of the crime has been outlined, now it's time to move on to the motive. No matter how much Rosa hated or despised her relatives, all of them were able to find a mate. No matter how hard Rosa tried to be kind and sympathetic, men always left her. No matter how hard Rosa tried to love and care for her daughter, she pushed her away, leaving Rosa alone. Her motive is described in one word - envy. All her sharp-tongued and nasty-charactered relatives easily found someone to share their happiness with, but she did not. Even their children, who seemingly did nothing to Rosa herself, are about to find a mate, not one then another. She cannot help but envy even her daughter, who, as we learn from the novel, is the only one who can create the universe alone, that is, be happy alone. Which Rosa never managed to do. Hence the importance of the second twilight, that it separates the couple. And thus the main slogan of this game is reinforced: "without love you can't see".

All sorts of little things

We've talked about the detective, now we can relax and talk about the narrative details, that Rosa is Beatrice.
In the second chapter, Maria says that she learns various magic songs together with Beatrice, and in the fourth, that her signature ooh-ooh became a spell when her mother taught her to sing. Occam's razor requires us not to multiply entities, and since the witch is an extra entity, we come to the conclusion that only Rosa taught Maria to sing songs. This is like the case with Virgil and Kumasawa and their special connection with mackerel.
The description of the sixth chapter says that this is a confession. In it, Rosa calls herself a ghost, which is what Beatrice did in previous chapters. In the same chapter, she says that she sent letters to Maria's father, but they were returned because the specified address did not exist, which refers to the fourth chapter and the letters with bank cards.
In the second chapter, when Battler argues in the real world with Rosa, and in the magical world with Beatrice, he asks the latter to shut up, to which Rosa suggests that he shut up himself.
Any magical figure is based on a real person according to Beatrice's compendium. This is notable because in the fifth chapter we are shown how well her figure understands tea, like Rosa, which Beatrice herself tells us at the tea party in the second chapter. But Shannon does not understand tea, which we see in the first two chapters.
Umineko is completely imbued with the symbolism of roses, every second witch wears them on her head, and we should not forget about Mary's constantly disappearing rose.
Seagulls have references to the "divine comedy" and to the author Dante himself. So Kinzo is Dante, who never said a word about his wife, but until the end of his years he idolized Beatrice, who died in childbirth. So, it is not known exactly how many children he had, but it is more or less reliable that he had a younger daughter, a nun (not married), whose name was Antonia. The fact is that she later took the name Beatrice. The most important thing is that one of the meanings of the name Antonia is a flower. If you say that "rose" is not a flower, I will laugh. This fact is confirmed by Maria, when she testifies in the seventh chapter and says that she was born from the Holy Spirit, and we already know another priest, Ronald Knox, who had a daughter, Dlanor Knox, in the Umineko.


This is not all, there is much more that can be added, which I will gradually do.

[treeflower]

You are kinda missing a introduction about what you are intending on proving or showing with each of these interpretations of the red truth and event of the story. It would make it a lot easier to follow what your point is if you did this. Cause otherwise i will have to infer what you actually mean with all these statements which could lead to misunderstandings.

[irchisoop]

Originally posted by treeflower:

You are kinda missing a introduction about what you are intending on proving or showing with each of these interpretations of the red truth and event of the story. It would make it a lot easier to follow what your point is if you did this. Cause otherwise i will have to infer what you actually mean with all these statements which could lead to misunderstandings.

You're right, I don't explain the general idea of who the accomplices are and so on anywhere separately. I need to write something like that. Well, and clarify the connection between the arguments and the evidence with the plain truth. But there isn't anything like that right now, so you can ask me a question and I'll try to answer it.

[irchisoop]

The gist of the theory.

The main and sole culprit is Rosa (Beatrice from Kuvadorian). She kills people alone or drives them to suicide. For her crimes, she uses wigs and disguises, along with medications and a voice recorder, which she carries in her large bag. For weapons, she uses Kinzo's only working shotgun on the island, along with a knife. Her accomplices include Kanon and Shannon (different people), Gohda, Nanjo, Kumasawa, Genji, Rudolf, and Kyrie. There are 17 people on the island.
Rosa has two daughters, Shannon and Maria.

UPD.
My theory requires a little clarification. If the culprit is definitely "Rosa" (Beatrice Kuvadoriana), then it's not a given that meta Beatrice's is "Rosa." I'm still developing my theory, so I can't say anything specific. However, I have some guesses. Meta means - M.

[Eisenerz]

Cute theory.

[irchisoop]

Originally posted by Eisenerz:

Cute theory.

If that’s not sarcasm, then thank you.

[Eisenerz]

Originally posted by irchisoop:

Originally posted by Eisenerz:

Cute theory.

If that’s not sarcasm, then thank you.

Nope, I appreciate hard work. Nowaday's reader aren't like this and spoiling is usually common. When stating a theory, I often ecountering suspicious similar arguments from old solutions (JJblue, Rambling or GabeZuhl) or they have knowledge of an upcoming plot point (like the detective perspective) while they still reading the first 4 stories. Having the idea and creativity to write down your own theory is blissful.