Japanese gun = crap?

[Shinviroz]

Ok so how crappy are japanese guns?
i understand it's just a game when you get shot by some thugs in a group fight and you just walk away with some health lowered.
but in the story, Sagawa gets shot in the back by Sera and the next scene Sagawa is torturing Mijama?
Then Sagawa shoots sera in the back but a later Sera's just walking around again.
And now the weak blind girl Makoto is shot in the stomach and she goes through surgery and it was a success?
This is as far as i played so please no spoilers ahead.
But damn, everyone gets shot here and they just live like nothing happened.
Oh yeah, that chinese assassin Gao is supposedly to be a professional but he can't even shoot Makoto in the head or shoot Kiryu properly.
Either remove guns from the storyline or someone tell me japanese guns are pretty weak because of some legal issues?

[Lar Dass]

Origineel geplaatst door Waltz:

Ok so how crappy are japanese guns?
i understand it's just a game when you get shot by some thugs in a group fight and you just walk away with some health lowered.
but in the story, Sagawa gets shot in the back by Sera and the next scene Sagawa is torturing Mijama?
Then Sagawa shoots sera in the back but a later Sera's just walking around again.
And now the weak blind girl Makoto is shot in the stomach and she goes through surgery and it was a success?
This is as far as i played so please no spoilers ahead.
But damn, everyone gets shot here and they just live like nothing happened.
Oh yeah, that chinese assassin Gao is supposedly to be a professional but he can't even shoot Makoto in the head or shoot Kiryu properly.
Either remove guns from the storyline or someone tell me japanese guns are pretty weak because of some legal issues?

Sagawa got shot in a non fatal area

Makoto got shot in a non fatal area

Lao Gui was not ordered to kill makoto, but only wound her in a non fatal area

Japanese guns are just regular guns, the future games do show them "killing" people, despite the fact kiryu or majima personally cannot

[Orlando]

That's the soap opera melodrama side of the series.

[Shinviroz]

Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

Origineel geplaatst door Waltz:

Ok so how crappy are japanese guns?
i understand it's just a game when you get shot by some thugs in a group fight and you just walk away with some health lowered.
but in the story, Sagawa gets shot in the back by Sera and the next scene Sagawa is torturing Mijama?
Then Sagawa shoots sera in the back but a later Sera's just walking around again.
And now the weak blind girl Makoto is shot in the stomach and she goes through surgery and it was a success?
This is as far as i played so please no spoilers ahead.
But damn, everyone gets shot here and they just live like nothing happened.
Oh yeah, that chinese assassin Gao is supposedly to be a professional but he can't even shoot Makoto in the head or shoot Kiryu properly.
Either remove guns from the storyline or someone tell me japanese guns are pretty weak because of some legal issues?

Sagawa got shot in a non fatal area

Makoto got shot in a non fatal area

Lao Gui was not ordered to kill makoto, but only wound her in a non fatal area

Japanese guns are just regular guns, the future games do show them "killing" people, despite the fact kiryu or majima personally cannot

Lao gui was ordered to kill makoto when she went to confront them at the penthouse before they left on the chopper. Such terrible assassin.
Makoto doesnt need to live because they can just go to court. So they were ok with killing her instead of paying a billion yen.

And sagawa got shot in non fatal area obviously because it didnt kill them but to have him walk around torturing majima with a baseball bat?
Its like the writers forgot he got shot.
Also kiryu's gun shots on his chest and legs from Lao gui is completely gone when he takes off his shirt when fighting alongside Nishiki.

Writers think gunshot wound is similar to a bruise or something. You cant get shot in your legs and walk around or throw a kick.

[Lar Dass]

Origineel geplaatst door Waltz:

Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

Sagawa got shot in a non fatal area

Makoto got shot in a non fatal area

Lao Gui was not ordered to kill makoto, but only wound her in a non fatal area

Japanese guns are just regular guns, the future games do show them "killing" people, despite the fact kiryu or majima personally cannot

Lao gui was ordered to kill makoto when she went to confront them at the penthouse before they left on the chopper. Such terrible assassin.
Makoto doesnt need to live because they can just go to court. So they were ok with killing her instead of paying a billion yen.

And sagawa got shot in non fatal area obviously because it didnt kill them but to have him walk around torturing majima with a baseball bat?
Its like the writers forgot he got shot.
Also kiryu's gun shots on his chest and legs from Lao gui is completely gone when he takes off his shirt when fighting alongside Nishiki.

Writers think gunshot wound is similar to a bruise or something. You cant get shot in your legs and walk around or throw a kick.

Thats wrong, As Daisaku Kuze later revealed to Kiryu, Keiji Shibusawa secretly, without Dojima's knowledge, instructed Lao Gui to shoot Makoto non-lethally, in order to allow Shibusawa to track down the movements of Makoto's rescuers, the Nikkyo Consortium.

[Shinviroz]

Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

Origineel geplaatst door Waltz:

Lao gui was ordered to kill makoto when she went to confront them at the penthouse before they left on the chopper. Such terrible assassin.
Makoto doesnt need to live because they can just go to court. So they were ok with killing her instead of paying a billion yen.

And sagawa got shot in non fatal area obviously because it didnt kill them but to have him walk around torturing majima with a baseball bat?
Its like the writers forgot he got shot.
Also kiryu's gun shots on his chest and legs from Lao gui is completely gone when he takes off his shirt when fighting alongside Nishiki.

Writers think gunshot wound is similar to a bruise or something. You cant get shot in your legs and walk around or throw a kick.

Thats wrong, As Daisaku Kuze later revealed to Kiryu, Keiji Shibusawa secretly, without Dojima's knowledge, instructed Lao Gui to shoot Makoto non-lethally, in order to allow Shibusawa to track down the movements of Makoto's rescuers, the Nikkyo Consortium.

makoto was due to the story, but everone else's gunshots were too easily recovered/forgotten by the writers.
also, thanks for the spoilers. good thing i finished the game before i read your comment. i specifically asked for no spoilers but i guess thats too much to ask

[Lar Dass]

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Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

Thats wrong, As Daisaku Kuze later revealed to Kiryu, Keiji Shibusawa secretly, without Dojima's knowledge, instructed Lao Gui to shoot Makoto non-lethally, in order to allow Shibusawa to track down the movements of Makoto's rescuers, the Nikkyo Consortium.

makoto was due to the story, but everone else's gunshots were too easily recovered/forgotten by the writers.
also, thanks for the spoilers. good thing i finished the game before i read your comment. i specifically asked for no spoilers but i guess thats too much to ask

Well you were so hard in trying to prove me wrong thats your own fault, maybe finish the game before making false claims about lore which later gets revealed as something else

[Shinviroz]

Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

Origineel geplaatst door Waltz:

makoto was due to the story, but everone else's gunshots were too easily recovered/forgotten by the writers.
also, thanks for the spoilers. good thing i finished the game before i read your comment. i specifically asked for no spoilers but i guess thats too much to ask

Well you were so hard in trying to prove me wrong thats your own fault, maybe finish the game before making false claims about lore which later gets revealed as something else

right, makoto's shot was due to the story, but every other gun shots are just ridiculous.
like i said, you dont just get up and start torturing majima after getting shot yourself in the back.
also, you dont just get patched up at little asia for gunshots on your chest and legs and just take the shirts off and fight a group of thugs the next day.
this game uses guns like as if it's a baseball bat.
Not to mention Sera getting shot by segawa.
Why didnt Nishitani just get better too?
and i wasn't 'trying so hard' lol these gunshots being ignored is literally in my face constantly.
this game's writers have no idea how guns work

[Lar Dass]

Origineel geplaatst door Waltz:

Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

Well you were so hard in trying to prove me wrong thats your own fault, maybe finish the game before making false claims about lore which later gets revealed as something else

right, makoto's shot was due to the story, but every other gun shots are just ridiculous.
like i said, you dont just get up and start torturing majima after getting shot yourself in the back.
also, you dont just get patched up at little asia for gunshots on your chest and legs and just take the shirts off and fight a group of thugs the next day.
this game uses guns like as if it's a baseball bat.
Not to mention Sera getting shot by segawa.
Why didnt Nishitani just get better too?
and i wasn't 'trying so hard' lol these gunshots being ignored is literally in my face constantly.
this game's writers have no idea how guns work

All im gonna say is, when you are around halfway through yakuza 4 i do not want to see any threads from you regarding guns, once you finish 4 and criticise the guns in that game i will agree with you

[Shinviroz]

Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

Origineel geplaatst door Waltz:

right, makoto's shot was due to the story, but every other gun shots are just ridiculous.
like i said, you dont just get up and start torturing majima after getting shot yourself in the back.
also, you dont just get patched up at little asia for gunshots on your chest and legs and just take the shirts off and fight a group of thugs the next day.
this game uses guns like as if it's a baseball bat.
Not to mention Sera getting shot by segawa.
Why didnt Nishitani just get better too?
and i wasn't 'trying so hard' lol these gunshots being ignored is literally in my face constantly.
this game's writers have no idea how guns work

All im gonna say is, when you are around halfway through yakuza 4 i do not want to see any threads from you regarding guns, once you finish 4 and criticise the guns in that game i will agree with you

well let me just tell you that getting shot in a non fatal area is a really rare thing in real life.
every part of your body can kill you if you get shot.
i hope in future series people just plop dead the moment they get shot, or just dont introduce guns so much.
i know that firearm is illegal in japan so it works with the story too. just keep the guns to a minimum!

[Lar Dass]

Origineel geplaatst door Waltz:

Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

All im gonna say is, when you are around halfway through yakuza 4 i do not want to see any threads from you regarding guns, once you finish 4 and criticise the guns in that game i will agree with you

well let me just tell you that getting shot in a non fatal area is a really rare thing in real life.
every part of your body can kill you if you get shot.
i hope in future series people just plop dead the moment they get shot, or just dont introduce guns so much.
i know that firearm is illegal in japan so it works with the story too. just keep the guns to a minimum!

I get you dont like the unrealistic nature, but this is the same game series where you can see your best friend get brutally murdered, then go play pocket circuit the next day, and then beat up an ancient god the day after before catching a shark with a fishing rod

[Shinviroz]

Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

Origineel geplaatst door Waltz:

well let me just tell you that getting shot in a non fatal area is a really rare thing in real life.
every part of your body can kill you if you get shot.
i hope in future series people just plop dead the moment they get shot, or just dont introduce guns so much.
i know that firearm is illegal in japan so it works with the story too. just keep the guns to a minimum!

I get you dont like the unrealistic nature, but this is the same game series where you can see your best friend get brutally murdered, then go play pocket circuit the next day, and then beat up an ancient god the day after before catching a shark with a fishing rod

mini games are not really part of the story so i dont mind that at all.
i just started yakuza kiwami 1 and im really bothered by how crazy and joker-like Majima has become.
Might make a post about it on that board later.

[Lar Dass]

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Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

I get you dont like the unrealistic nature, but this is the same game series where you can see your best friend get brutally murdered, then go play pocket circuit the next day, and then beat up an ancient god the day after before catching a shark with a fishing rod

i just started yakuza kiwami 1 and im really bothered by how crazy and joker-like Majima has become.
Might make a post about it on that board later.

Save yourself the bother, tons of people have done that already, and all their claims have been debunked

[Shinviroz]

Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

Origineel geplaatst door Waltz:

i just started yakuza kiwami 1 and im really bothered by how crazy and joker-like Majima has become.
Might make a post about it on that board later.

Save yourself the bother, tons of people have done that already, and all their claims have been debunked

it's not like majima killed and revenged for makoto. why did he go crazy?
the whole point of Sera persuading Majima to not get blood on his hands was to prevent him from becoming a cold blooded killer and lose his mind.
it just seems like writers wanted a Nishitami character and decided to merge it with Majima.
Well i only played 30 min so far so idk yet.
I guess it's better than having 2 Kiryu's. It felt like Majima was almost a copy of Kiryu.

[Lar Dass]

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Origineel geplaatst door Lar Dass:

Save yourself the bother, tons of people have done that already, and all their claims have been debunked

it's not like majima killed and revenged for makoto. why did he go crazy?
the whole point of Sera persuading Majima to not get blood on his hands was to prevent him from becoming a cold blooded killer and lose his mind.
it just seems like writers wanted a Nishitami character and decided to merge it with Majima.
Well i only played 30 min so far so idk yet.
I guess it's better than having 2 Kiryu's. It felt like Majima was almost a copy of Kiryu.

yakuza kiwami 1 is a remake of the original yakuza which released in 2005, 0 came out in 2016, so the "crazy" majima was majima in the first ever yakuza game

[Hotel Security]

>Sagawa got shot in a non fatal area

I just brought the Sagawa thing up in another thread. I can understand him being fine after being shot in the hand...but shot in the lower back as well? No way...he's not strutting around and swinging a bat around after that. It can be "non-fatal" all you want but you're going to be in pain and walking funny and needing rest after that.

I can almost accept Lee-san walking away since they show he's barely hit by the shots...but Sagawa is hit straight in the back...that bullet is messing up some organ or two.

But, whatever, it's a game where you see brutal punches and attacks (love the "neck-break" Heat move) and every guy just gets up and walks away like they just got slapped around a little. So it's not like the game is shooting for complete realism...a lot of action movies and stuff have folks just shrugging off bullets.

>i just started yakuza kiwami 1 and im really bothered by how crazy and joker-like Majima has become.

Yakuza 0 is my first Yakuza game but I already knew that Majima was always crazy madman comic-relief in those games first...