Mahjong and Pool Carrom shot frustration, need assist

[Panky..]

I've been playing this game for a few hours and absolutely love it, the minigames and side stuff haven't been as big an issue when it comes to Completion Tasks...

... except for freaking Mahjong and the Carrom shot task on Pool. I tried so much and just can't seem to get the hang of either.

Is someone willing to give an assist and complete the Pool and Mahjong tasks if I provide a save file?

[13LACK ORDER]

Caroom shot is kinda tricky but not hard
- play solo so you don't have to worry about opponent
- play for a while and place 2 ball near a hole and then place cue ball between these 2 balls. just make a foul intentionally so you can place the ball anywhere you want
- Try hit the ball on the lower part. with mid power. the ball will spin to the side and if you do it right you'll get carom shot

you can refer on this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jGpLIsrnHg

For Mahjong. well you gotta learn the rule first and you need a bit of luck as well. for the mahjong completion you need to perform the following
- Go out 10 times = win a round 10 times.
- Mangan 5 times = win with 5 or more han. do this 5 times
- Haneman 1 time = with with 6 or more han. this is probably the hardest completion of mahjong. fortunately you only need to do it once
Richi ipatsu = Win a round in one turn after you declare richi
Note : richi is the declaration you made when you only need 1 tile from win a round. once you declare richi the game will enter autoplay mode until you get the tile you need. you have to win in 1 turn after declare richi. this need a ton of luck
- Full straight = Win a round with 1 to 9 straight from the same group
- Win 10 million from mahjong = it's self explanatory. just like other gambling minigames. play on the hardest table for more payout

I know it might be frustrating doing all these completion. but with patience you'll get there eventually. i spent around 10-12 hours (can't remember excactly) doing mahjong completion

[Panky..]

Originally posted by Medium Size:

Caroom shot is kinda tricky but not hard
- play solo so you don't have to worry about opponent
- play for a while and place 2 ball near a hole and then place cue ball between these 2 balls. just make a foul intentionally so you can place the ball anywhere you want
- Try hit the ball on the lower part. with mid power. the ball will spin to the side and if you do it right you'll get carom shot

you can refer on this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jGpLIsrnHg

I was just doing exactly as the video showed and finally got this easily.

Originally posted by Medium Size:

For Mahjong. well you gotta learn the rule first and you need a bit of luck as well. for the mahjong completion you need to perform the following
- Go out 10 times = win a round 10 times.
- Mangan 5 times = win with 5 or more han. do this 5 times
- Haneman 1 time = with with 6 or more han. this is probably the hardest completion of mahjong. fortunately you only need to do it once
Richi ipatsu = Win a round in one turn after you declare richi
Note : richi is the declaration you made when you only need 1 tile from win a round. once you declare richi the game will enter autoplay mode until you get the tile you need. you have to win in 1 turn after declare richi. this need a ton of luck
- Full straight = Win a round with 1 to 9 straight from the same group
- Win 10 million from mahjong = it's self explanatory. just like other gambling minigames. play on the hardest table for more payout

I know it might be frustrating doing all these completion. but with patience you'll get there eventually. i spent around 10-12 hours (can't remember excactly) doing mahjong completion

Believe me, if I had the patience to learn and play Mahjong, I wouldn't have made a help post. I dislike stuff that's heavily dependent on luck and RNG, which is why I'm averse to this particular minigame, compared to the others which are mostly reaction time and/or skill dependent.

[KolyaSmirno.]

Sorry you having a hard time.
p.s i looked at your profile and it appears you're a lazy SAM user.So im taking back my sorries.
p.s.s Не also was mean.

[Lar Dass]

pool is BROKEN on the remastered collection, its nigh impossible to beat ai unless a miracle happens

[Lisstaa]

The fact that you need luck to win mahjong is frustrating. Been playing for 20 hours but always lose. I'm not sure if this is bad luck or a skill issue hahaha.

[13LACK ORDER]

Originally posted by Panky..:

Originally posted by Medium Size:

Caroom shot is kinda tricky but not hard
- play solo so you don't have to worry about opponent
- play for a while and place 2 ball near a hole and then place cue ball between these 2 balls. just make a foul intentionally so you can place the ball anywhere you want
- Try hit the ball on the lower part. with mid power. the ball will spin to the side and if you do it right you'll get carom shot

you can refer on this video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1jGpLIsrnHg

I was just doing exactly as the video showed and finally got this easily.

Originally posted by Medium Size:

For Mahjong. well you gotta learn the rule first and you need a bit of luck as well. for the mahjong completion you need to perform the following
- Go out 10 times = win a round 10 times.
- Mangan 5 times = win with 5 or more han. do this 5 times
- Haneman 1 time = with with 6 or more han. this is probably the hardest completion of mahjong. fortunately you only need to do it once
Richi ipatsu = Win a round in one turn after you declare richi
Note : richi is the declaration you made when you only need 1 tile from win a round. once you declare richi the game will enter autoplay mode until you get the tile you need. you have to win in 1 turn after declare richi. this need a ton of luck
- Full straight = Win a round with 1 to 9 straight from the same group
- Win 10 million from mahjong = it's self explanatory. just like other gambling minigames. play on the hardest table for more payout

I know it might be frustrating doing all these completion. but with patience you'll get there eventually. i spent around 10-12 hours (can't remember excactly) doing mahjong completion

Believe me, if I had the patience to learn and play Mahjong, I wouldn't have made a help post. I dislike stuff that's heavily dependent on luck and RNG, which is why I'm averse to this particular minigame, compared to the others which are mostly reaction time and/or skill dependent.

Mahjong also required skill. you can't just play mahjong without thinking lol. you need to think the right strategy like know when the right time to steal opponent tile and you also need to pay attention to opponent discard tile as well. for example if you want to declare richi and the tile you need already discarded by opponent 3 times then there's no point to richi because you'll never get the tile you need. mahjong are gambling game and just like any other gambling required ton of luck and chance but even with good luck it wouldn't enough if you don't know the right strategy

If you don't have patience then you shouldn't try to pursue the completion to begin with. Yakuza completion are only for masochist and patience people. and if you aren't either of them then it's not for you. just do main and substory then move on.

and if want to pursue completion in all yakuza games then i've got bad news for you : All yakuza games have mahjong and Yakuza 0 isn't even the hardest yakuza games to 100%

[Medelsnygg]

Mahjong is always the same though. Learn it once, know it forever. Unlike baseball, pool, bowling, darts Mahjong requires 0 reaction time, 0 eye-hand coordination, it's just skill and luck.

It did probably take me 10 hours to become passably good at it though

[Medelsnygg]

Oh, and I would like to add:

The game Absolutely does not automatically tell you when you can call riichi. Press "X" (Xbox controller) or Square (PS controller) and a menu will appear when you can call riichi.

[KolyaSmirno.]

Originally posted by Medelsnygg:

Oh, and I would like to add:

The game Absolutely does not automatically tell you when you can call riichi. Press "X" (Xbox controller) or Square (PS controller) and a menu will appear when you can call riichi.

we're pc players here...hello.

[13LACK ORDER]

Originally posted by KolyaSmirno.:

Originally posted by Medelsnygg:

Oh, and I would like to add:

The game Absolutely does not automatically tell you when you can call riichi. Press "X" (Xbox controller) or Square (PS controller) and a menu will appear when you can call riichi.

we're pc players here...hello.

Real yakuza use a gamepad.... hello

[KolyaSmirno.]

Originally posted by Medium Size:

Originally posted by KolyaSmirno.:

we're pc players here...hello.

Real yakuza use a gamepad.... hello

Hey...you're that dude with sexy Doa girl on his profile...why you so hidden lol.
btw ok you won. I dont like gamepad controls is just

[Panky..]

Originally posted by Medelsnygg:

Mahjong is always the same though. Learn it once, know it forever. Unlike baseball, pool, bowling, darts Mahjong requires 0 reaction time, 0 eye-hand coordination, it's just skill and luck.

It did probably take me 10 hours to become passably good at it though

Reaction time, hand-eye co-ordination, muscle memory, pattern recognition all constitute as player skill, it's because the player actually has input on what he does and can improve in those places if he tries. If the player fails, it's mostly because of his own mistakes or because he was outclassed by a more skilled opponent.

Luck based games are not that. You're a slave to random probability and you can fail even if you did nothing wrong at all, just because the dice roll didn't happen to be in your favor.

I'd rather succeed or fail on my own merit than RNG.

[13LACK ORDER]

Originally posted by Panky..:

Originally posted by Medelsnygg:

Mahjong is always the same though. Learn it once, know it forever. Unlike baseball, pool, bowling, darts Mahjong requires 0 reaction time, 0 eye-hand coordination, it's just skill and luck.

It did probably take me 10 hours to become passably good at it though

Reaction time, hand-eye co-ordination, muscle memory, pattern recognition all constitute as player skill, it's because the player actually has input on what he does and can improve in those places if he tries. If the player fails, it's mostly because of his own mistakes or because he was outclassed by a more skilled opponent.

Luck based games are not that. You're a slave to random probability and you can fail even if you did nothing wrong at all, just because the dice roll didn't happen to be in your favor.

I'd rather succeed or fail on my own merit than RNG.

Yeah good point. but if you or anyone hated gambling and RNG then stay away from it. the game isn't even force you to play nor it required for the story and substory except for that substory in Kiwami 2 where you had to play mahjong but that's very easy because you literally can cheat the game with some items

it's funny how these people get into gambling minigame by their own accord when it's not required at all and the game isn't even forced them and then rant when they have s*** luck and can't figure it out how to win. remind me of someoe IRL who get into gambling by his own choice for easy money then blame the game when he lose

[Medelsnygg]

Easy there partner, no need to get all defensive. I did not imply that preferring those things made you any less of a player.

I would argue that there's a lot of luck in darts, bowling, pool too. You can get really good at it but it's hard to get the exact same outcome twice. Mahjong is random but it's always the same.

[Panky..]

Originally posted by Medelsnygg:

Easy there partner, no need to get all defensive. I did not imply that preferring those things made you any less of a player.

Was just stating the facts as they are.

Originally posted by Medelsnygg:

I would argue that there's a lot of luck in darts, bowling, pool too. You can get really good at it but it's hard to get the exact same outcome twice.

If there's any luck factor, it's completely subservient to player skill and almost unnoticeable. When it comes to pattern recognition, you definitely can get the same outcome twice. The only time it becomes different is because one miscalculates on the smallest detail (not angling the shot in the exact same way in pool/bowling, or holding a dart slightly off from previous position etc). Things that can easily be bypassed with a keen eye and some DPI adjustment.

Originally posted by Medelsnygg:

Mahjong is random but it's always the same.

This is a self-contradictory statement.