Ever wonder why the majority complaining about Denuvo in Yakuza games have a PS4?

[ShaDoW]

While I'm in no way trying to defend Denuvo I can see why SEGA would choose to put it in the Yakuza PC ports and that surely won't stop me from buying it. But it does seem strange that these console players are somewhat trying to sabotage the release of Yakuza games on PC "claiming" they "hate DRM" while they own a very limited hardware locked box which needs a paid subscription service in order to properly play games and use other features. And they still have the audacity to call themselves "PC gamers".

[76561198383104026]

The console master race is jealous, simple as that as we get something good on PC. They try to sabotage in every way possible. But let those fools rant about Denuvo as it will probably increase sales on PC.

[Mhmmm]

I had most of the Yakuza games day 1 on consoles and I still will have Yakuza games on PC day 1. I don't really care about Denuvo being there, they might throw in some cryptocoin miner as well. As long as I can play the game, that's ok for me.

[Mr Daylight]

Quite simlply: people think of consoles so differently to PC that they apply different standards.

[Victoria Raverna]

WIth Denuvo, the problem is not because it is a DRM. People that against DRM will not buy games on Steam since Steam is also a DRM.

The problem is that Denuvo can seriously reduce game performance. Denuvo doesn't stop me from buying a game that I want, but I'll be happier if the game doesn't use Denuvo.

[Duckilous]

Originally posted by Victoria Raverna:

The problem is that Denuvo can seriously reduce game performance.

It's been said several times that this statement is just false.
At least not seriously anyway.

[Johnny]

You've got some of the most creative writing right here.

[Yuga-Suggah]

I truly don't understand the point of protest pieces about denovo on a steam forum. I mean, honestly who is going to be influenced by these posts? Sega corporate? Not a chance. Causal gamers? Nope. The fanbase? Heck no. The only people that get riled about denovo are people that have experience with denovo and/or like to stir up trouble about denovo. It's like a sub-group in a sub-group. These protests feel both aimless and self-indulgent.

Honestly, what will get Sega to stop using Denovo is if Denovo hurts the sales of Yakuza 0 and future Yakuza games. More importantly, if the game runs poorly, people will not buy the game. The overall market does not care about some niche anti-denovo group. Wait until the game comes out! And then talk about the game's proformance issues.

Don't get me wrong though, I don't like Denovo or any DRM. I just think complianing about it here doesn't make awhole lot of sense.

Honestly, I think this forum kinda shows a bigger problem about the PC Yakuza 0's launch. It shows that a lot of people on this forum either have played the Yakuza series, subscribed to a "not-recommend" curator ussually with the theme of "console ports that have DRM software", or think that this game is GTA made by Sega. Basically, its a population that summed by a strong voiced population, but still a small niche gaming community.

I kind hope that this game gets some better marketing for the PC because I definately want to see what PC gamers think of the Yakuza series. And if the PC port does have problems, I want a large group of people voice theses conserns, rather just "I hate Denovo because I hate Denovo" people.

[bearsbeetsbsg]

Originally posted by Harry Callahan 1:

The console master race is jealous, simple as that as we get something good on PC. They try to sabotage in every way possible. But let those fools rant about Denuvo as it will probably increase sales on PC.

This post gave me cancer.

[Erebus]

Originally posted by Victoria Raverna:

WIth Denuvo, the problem is not because it is a DRM. People that against DRM will not buy games on Steam since Steam is also a DRM.

The problem is that Denuvo can seriously reduce game performance. Denuvo doesn't stop me from buying a game that I want, but I'll be happier if the game doesn't use Denuvo.

Steam can seriously reduce game performance too. Bayonetta at launch had that SteamAPI issue where it was eating performance for people. FFXV has a SteamAPI issue where it just keeps polling it constantly incurring like a 30% overhead?

Basically anything if poorly implemented is going to run like ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥. You can even see it with middlewares at times.

In most cases Denuvo isn't the problem (outside of startup times and maybe loadtimes), and the reason the "cracked versions" supposedly perform better has more to do with gutting the Steam portion of the DRM since Denuvo is still present in those cracked titles.

I mean Denuvo has some issues like the whole DOOM 2016 authentication debacle, and the fact there is basically no support for occasions where the authentication ♥♥♥♥♥ up. But from a technical standpoint it's kinda benign, especially in comparison to past protection mechanisms.

Originally posted by llllShaDoWllll:

Ever wonder why the majority complaining about Denuvo in Yakuza games have a PS4?

I'm not saying it is the case or not, but it's pretty easy to claim you have one and unless you link your psn profile no one can prove or disprove that. Whereas if you have a public profile on Steam, someone can clear as day see whether or not you actually buy games.

It is kind of funny though, the PS4 is pretty damn DRM'd. I have one sitting on my desk and like it's even doing disk checks (though not as cancer as the ones PC used to have, least it stops spinning the disk not long after bootup).

[Nobody]

i use my console for the exclusives(see God Of War) and denuvo protected games.

Honesty i wouldn't mind paying full price for this game again if it didn't have denuvo.

Bayonetta and Vanquish didn't need it and they sold just fine.Pirates will evetually crack it anyways.
AC Origins used 2 drms and was still cracked.Most people who pirate have no intentions of buying it in the first place.They can wait a month or two.

[Yuga-Suggah]

To be fair, there really isn't a whole of lot reason for non-fans or non-denuvo people to be on this forum to begin with.

[76561198383104026]

Originally posted by Yuga-Suggah:

To be fair, there really isn't a whole of lot reason for non-fans or non-denuvo people to be on this forum to begin with.

Yet there are here harassing and trolling all day long ......