Yakuza vs Sleeping Dogs

[Favret]

I loved Sleeping Dogs (remastered), amazing game, so is this Yakuza game better than Sleeping Dogs? since it is from 2018, should it be better? should I buy it?

[Sammich]

Sleeping Dogs is more like GTA, and Yakuza is more of an RPG. There's definitely overlap in terms of gameplay, but design-wise they're very different.

Also, one's in (mostly) english and the other is in japanese, don't buy yakuza if you're not ok with doing a lot of reading.

[TGT]

I like to think of Sleeping Dogs as a mix between GTA & Yakuza.

[Ǵ̶͓̂͑lí̴̤̀̄́tcĥ̸]

Why, because Sleeping Dogs has/stars Asians? Lol.

Elements of Yakuza exists in GTA across the board but like I said before, the closest games to Yakuza are its inspiration, Shenmue, with a touch of Way of the Samurai. It has similar graphical fidelity and 3rd person camera to GTA but that's basically where the similarities stop in terms if parallels that don't exist across all games of that genre or similar (including the aforementioned).

Yakuza is hard to describe - it's an RPGesque story driven cinematic minor life-sim investigative beat'em'up with QTEs and fighting game mechanics padded (in a good way) with a ton of optional but worthy side content and distraction.

Seriously... One minute you could be beating the hell (or cash) out of Yakuza bosses involved in some crazy subterfuge with some of the flashiest looking combat of this genre; and the next you could be training a dominatrix, singing karaoke, playing Space Harrier in an arcade or racing little kids with battery powered customizable pocket race cars on electric hot wheel tracks (or a hell of a lot more).

This is why it's not really GTA despite seeming similar on the surface - it's a whole lot of content packed very tightly in a smaller package rather than a good amount of content spread thinly across a large package (though GTAV does add quite a lot), with a heavy emphasis on the RPG elements that coexist with its combat and freedom. Open world is replaced by Sandbox with some Themepark elements.

Tone and feel can also be somewhat compared to maybe the Dead Rising franchise (the first two) as well. Serious overarching story (more so in Yakuza) with crazy, seemingly random side content packed everywhere - another similarity with Dead Rising 1&2 is the sort of "arcadey" feel of the game, due to how flashy it is despite some of its darker tones (you literally beat cash out of enemies). It...sort of has a Capcom feel to it with its juxtaposition of gamey, random and often hilarious fun alongside a serious story and badass characters.

[Flobba Job]

Publicado originalmente por Spr1ggan:

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I'm a big fan of sleeping dogs, that game is so much better than GTA. But i like yakuza more, in yakuza you get more content than both of those games combined. Buy yakuza if you like a good story and doing substories.

In some ways it is but not in others. GTA has far better driving mechanics, and gunplay. It really sucks that we'll never get a Sleeping Dogs II though, i would've really liked to see how Hong Kong looked on a new engine and built for modern hardware.

I wish Rockstar would do a GTA again based on somewhere other than New York/Los Angeles/Miami.

I can go from my apartment to Hong Kong in about 20 - 30 minutes (I live in Shenhen in mainland China), and can definitely say it'd be so much more interesting for them to do a GTA based on HK. Hell, even if they picked another Asian city it would be good. I'd just vote HK because it's considerably more international, and there are still a lot of English speakers there.

[Straybow]

Just in terms of story Kiryu is a Ninkyo era protagonist outside his genre. Sleeping dogs does have that Heroic bloodshed feel.

[Tr0w]

Publicado originalmente por Lysimarkos of Ermor:

Just in terms of story Kiryu is a Ninkyo era protagonist outside his genre. Sleeping dogs does have that Heroic bloodshed feel.

It's quite weird to be honest, i expected to be doing shady stuff for the Yakuza and hunting guys down for bringing shame upon the Clan etc. Turns out Kiryu is just a good guy defender of the downtrodden that just happens to be involved with the Yakuza.

I still like the game though and will be getting Kiwami when it comes out.

[SaltyOneOne]

Yakuza is waaay funnier, the telephone club alone had me in tears.

[Nito]

Publicado originalmente por SaltyOneOne:

Yakuza is waaay funnier, the telephone club alone had me in tears.

Same with the car circuit even more when Kiryu loses

[WillToven]

Yakuza is 100% better

[Bankai9212]

Publicado originalmente por gusgreco7:

After completing the 1st chapter of yakuza, i can say that sleeping dogs was a much better and modern game for me, i think they can be compared and sleeping dogs wins in almost every department.

How's about playing more then 1 chapter? Based on that logic I can compare sleeping dog after 2 hours of play.

[Zalzany]

Publicado originalmente por Bankai9212:

Publicado originalmente por gusgreco7:

After completing the 1st chapter of yakuza, i can say that sleeping dogs was a much better and modern game for me, i think they can be compared and sleeping dogs wins in almost every department.

How's about playing more then 1 chapter? Based on that logic I can compare sleeping dog after 2 hours of play.

Based on your logic you must play 1k hours right? I mean whole point of that post whooshed right over your head. The point was after CH1 it was more fun, and story seemed nicer. Wasn't a "I did Ch1 game is best ever was don't bother doing CH2 onward."

Your logic needs some improvment or reading comp maybe? The point was Yakuza if its your cup of tea should pull you in after ch1 completly from its story alone.

[Bankai9212]

Publicado originalmente por Zalzany:

Publicado originalmente por Bankai9212:

How's about playing more then 1 chapter? Based on that logic I can compare sleeping dog after 2 hours of play.

Based on your logic you must play 1k hours right? I mean whole point of that post whooshed right over your head. The point was after CH1 it was more fun, and story seemed nicer. Wasn't a "I did Ch1 game is best ever was don't bother doing CH2 onward."

Your logic needs some improvment or reading comp maybe? The point was Yakuza if its your cup of tea should pull you in after ch1 completly from its story alone.

That's not what I was getting at, to make a fair comparison op should play both games completely to make a fair assessment considering the first chapter is just an introduction. Sub stories, activities don't show up until chapter 2 onwards. Plus he stated it beat Yakuza in every department, how can one make that claim from an introductory chapter?

[Tr0w]

Publicado originalmente por Bankai9212:

Publicado originalmente por Zalzany:

Based on your logic you must play 1k hours right? I mean whole point of that post whooshed right over your head. The point was after CH1 it was more fun, and story seemed nicer. Wasn't a "I did Ch1 game is best ever was don't bother doing CH2 onward."

Your logic needs some improvment or reading comp maybe? The point was Yakuza if its your cup of tea should pull you in after ch1 completly from its story alone.

That's not what I was getting at, to make a fair comparison op should play both games completely to make a fair assessment considering the first chapter is just an introduction. Sub stories, activities don't show up until chapter 2 onwards. Plus he stated it beat Yakuza in every department, how can one make that claim from an introductory chapter?

It's a claim that's completely untrue into the bargain, were there even any characters to get invested in with Sleeping Dogs? Nishitani was barely in Yakuza and i cared more about him than anyone in Sleeping Dogs, there's a huge difference in quality of characters. The story is also unique, being that it revolves around real estate with a lot of twists and turns. Sleeping Dogs on the other hand was very cliche and predictable. The Yakuza OST is also miles better than the Sleeping Dogs OST. The combat is a matter of preference. So the only real edge i can give to Sleeping Dogs is that it has a more open world with driving and clothing customisation. And i'm a fan of Sleeping Dogs.

[Bankai9212]

Publicado originalmente por Spr1ggan:

Publicado originalmente por Bankai9212:

That's not what I was getting at, to make a fair comparison op should play both games completely to make a fair assessment considering the first chapter is just an introduction. Sub stories, activities don't show up until chapter 2 onwards. Plus he stated it beat Yakuza in every department, how can one make that claim from an introductory chapter?

It's a claim that's completely untrue into the bargain, were there even any characters to get invested in with Sleeping Dogs? Nishitani was barely in Yakuza and i cared more about him than anyone in Sleeping Dogs, there's huge difference in quality of characters. The story is also unique, being that it revolves around real estate with a lot of twists and turns. Sleeping Dogs on the other hand was very cliche and predictable. The Yakuza OST is also miles better than the Sleeping Dogs OST. The combat is a matter of preference. So the only real edge i can give to Sleeping Dogs is that it has a more open world with driving and clothing customisation. And i'm a fan of Sleeping Dogs.

Thanks, that's what I was getting at you can't make a comparison after playing 1 chapter as the story just started. Plus all the activities occur in chapter 2 onwards.

[Bassam]

Publicado originalmente por Favret:

I loved Sleeping Dogs (remastered), amazing game, so is this Yakuza game better than Sleeping Dogs? since it is from 2018, should it be better? should I buy it?

I thoroughly enjoyed sleeping dogs but i found yakuza 0 to be much more enjoyable. The story and characters in yakuza are a lot more engaging and the substories/minigames were very entertaining as well. I also personally prefer yakuza's combat to sleeping dog's, but that's mostly because i loathe the arkham games style of combat