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hhaddow Aug 10, 2018 @ 2:22am
IJKL for karaoke? why?
What is the rason behind using IJKL for karaoke insted of WASD?

Also I know I shoudln't be asking this here, but what the hell, when's the patch comming back out? I cant make it from the first save point to the second without the game freezing up.
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Skeeka Aug 10, 2018 @ 3:01am 
I think they share their overall input scheme with the Disco minigame where you need WASD to move your cursor around.
Citrine Sep 4, 2018 @ 3:46pm 
They could have used up, down, left, right, it gets really confusing, its even worse in the disco minigame
-V- Sep 4, 2018 @ 4:30pm 
Yeah that was the exact moment I plugged in my controller for the first time. And then failed because I didn't know any of the buttons... X? A? What is this pagan witchcraft?
Codester Sep 4, 2018 @ 4:36pm 
Why you would choose to play Yakuza with Kb/M in the first place is beyond me.
RaiSet Sep 4, 2018 @ 5:02pm 
Originally posted by Codester:
Why you would choose to play Yakuza with Kb/M in the first place is beyond me.
Because PC. Magical place where gamepad should not be mandatory. Convinient but not mandatory.
Duckilous Sep 4, 2018 @ 5:35pm 
Because IJKL are the same keys for camera controls.
If they have to make you use the Dodge, Light Attack, Heavy Attack and Grab keys which corresponds to the controller's ABXY layout, it'll be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ mess.

Originally posted by RaiSet:
Originally posted by Codester:
Why you would choose to play Yakuza with Kb/M in the first place is beyond me.
Because PC. Magical place where gamepad should not be mandatory. Convinient but not mandatory.
1. Your beloved PC Master Race encourages people to use any kind of controller that they liked because one of the beauty of PC Gaming is having freedom of choices.
2. This game was designed to be used for a controller (obviously, it was a PS exclusive) and because of that, I find it more easier to play with a controller than with the keyboard and mouse.

Some games, typically First-Person Shooters, works better with a mouse and keyboard.
Some games like Yakuza 0 works better with a controller.
bali86 Sep 4, 2018 @ 7:46pm 
I don't have any problem playing yakuza 0 using KB/M. My only problem is how come i can't using shift button while playing disco?
RaiSet Sep 4, 2018 @ 8:01pm 
Originally posted by Hoovyspenser:
Originally posted by RaiSet:
Because PC. Magical place where gamepad should not be mandatory. Convinient but not mandatory.
1. Your beloved PC Master Race encourages people to use any kind of controller that they liked because one of the beauty of PC Gaming is having freedom of choices.
2. This game was designed to be used for a controller (obviously, it was a PS exclusive) and because of that, I find it more easier to play with a controller than with the keyboard and mouse.

Some games, typically First-Person Shooters, works better with a mouse and keyboard.
Some games like Yakuza 0 works better with a controller.


So we have our rights to use KB/M, are we not? As it's a control option which most of the people have by default. While gamepads, wheels and other alternatives allow for customization, they are something you buy separately.
So it's annoys me then someone laugh at people for using or wanting to use default controller for PC. It's an option all of us have, so let us use it!
Citronvand Sep 4, 2018 @ 8:33pm 
Originally posted by RaiSet:
So it's annoys me then someone laugh at people for using or wanting to use default controller for PC. It's an option all of us have, so let us use it!
You can use a keyboard, just don't expect it to be as good as the controller the game was designed for. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjEBYRZUYAAaIrI.jpg
RaiSet Sep 4, 2018 @ 8:45pm 
Originally posted by Citronvand:
Originally posted by RaiSet:
So it's annoys me then someone laugh at people for using or wanting to use default controller for PC. It's an option all of us have, so let us use it!
You can use a keyboard, just don't expect it to be as good as the controller the game was designed for. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DjEBYRZUYAAaIrI.jpg
Ah, where is a misunderstanding. Yakuza 0 is fine, I beat entire game using a keyboard. Only time I had to use a gamepad is when Karaoke started to use mouse buttons. Disco mini-game was actually easier on KB. .
Varstahl Sep 6, 2018 @ 5:40am 
Originally posted by Codester:
Why you would choose to play Yakuza with Kb/M in the first place is beyond me.
I'm not the op, but I did it because that's my controller input of choice. Played the entire game with it at the highest difficulty and had no trouble whatsoever, except a bit of discomfort at first with the disco, because I had to do 3 things at the same time and wasn't mentally prepared for it. I don't see the big problem with keyboard inputs tbh.

Originally posted by RaiSet:
Only time I had to use a gamepad is when Karaoke started to use mouse buttons
What are you talking about, no karaoke takes mouse button inputs :|
Last edited by Varstahl; Sep 6, 2018 @ 5:42am
AnonTwo Sep 6, 2018 @ 7:51am 
The game straight up says "Real Yakuza use a controller"

It was made specifically with a controller in mind, so there will be hiccups with KB/M.

PC is all about being able to get away from Defaults, and it's at it's core a console game.
Chef Rude Feb 12, 2019 @ 9:36am 
F* controllers. I've been a PC gamer for longer than I was ever a console gamer (and that was in the beginning). I've modified the graphic files and the input.ini and now I'm a karaoke pro. Stupid Sega. jkli was a terrible decision, and even worse not letting players modify those settings WITHIN the keybind screen.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1653647030
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1653647308
Jaes Feb 12, 2019 @ 11:55am 
IJKL assumes everyone knows how to use a keyboard correctly (which a lot of people don't). IJKL is the equivalent of WASD, just on the right side of the keyboard. I had no issues playing the mini-games using the default M&K set up.
in the current beta patch they changed it so you dont use IJKL but instead arrow keys
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