Is it even possible to win the catfight minigame?

[Ciaran Zagami]

Or does the AI always pick the move that will beat yours?

[Robert F.]

All the mini-game in Yakuza series are just RNG luck.

[Legato Bluesummers]

check out the PSN trophy guide for catfighting. basically it's not just RNG, there's a scrolling ticker down at the bottom of the main menu that gives you updates on every fighter. some good, some neutral, some bad, i.e., Veronica got fired from her job, etc. it basically increases your odds in getting off your rainbow (ultimate) moves and giving you slightly better odds at going head to head in the button mashing contest.

You really just want to find when Jennifer is doing well then pick her. exit out of the game and come back if the ticker is saying she's had a bad day. Also, the biggest trick is to not to "randomly" pick rock, paper or scissors, but to just stick to the first one that gets you a win. basically the AI on a given fighter likes a certain sign and will use that or another one 90% of the time. So it's just a matter of quickly finding out what their go-to sign is and exploiting it everytime.

and one last thing, the two worst fighters have a comeback move if you take too much off their life at any given time during the match. so you have to fight smart against them, and that means letting them beat you up a bit since they do poor amounts of damage. and always lose the button mashing game if you get a rainbow. otherwise you'll "win" the match and then they'll pop back up and strangle you, causing you to lose. It might even be better just to back out of the game if you see those two comeback fighters coming, since it's very difficult to win if you're a bruiser like Jennifer.

[Nish-Ki]

I think you win, if you finish before your fighter finishes

[PSI_m]

I did, but after trying it a couple of times (as well as the black jack min-games). I think the RNG-based games will go better the first time you play them and then go down hill. But if you reload the game from an earlier point and try again it will go badly from the start. But by forcequitting and then reloading, I've had the chance to get that good first game again, both with the catfights and black jack.

[Рафнсвартр]

Bro, i feel you. I don't have a clue if those crappy qtes even matter or not. The ones when you picking the same option as AI. Sometimes i'm pressing A fast and it works, i win. Sometimes i'm pressing A fast and it doesn't work. Even if i'm Jennifer with huge adventage in battle and 5 star rock, scissors and 4 star paper. I don't get it. Is it a pure luck based mini-game? I don't feel like it's cheating (like poker does) but it feels dumb to play with this random mechanic.

[Ciaran Zagami]

Originally posted by NobleNorth_UlfR:

Bro, i feel you. I don't have a clue if those crappy qtes even matter or not. The ones when you picking the same option as AI. Sometimes i'm pressing A fast and it works, i win. Sometimes i'm pressing A fast and it doesn't work. Even if i'm Jennifer with huge adventage in battle and 5 star rock, scissors and 4 star paper. I don't get it. Is it a pure luck based mini-game? I don't feel like it's cheating (like poker does) but it feels dumb to play with this random mechanic.

It honestly makes me wish this was a bethesda game because then someone would have cracked it open, read the code, found out the devs utterly pig ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the mini games and then rebuilt them all from the ground up.

[Bstel]

TFW thread author doesn't even pick a real answer as the best answer...

Originally posted by Legato Bluesummers:

check out the PSN trophy guide for catfighting. basically it's not just RNG, there's a scrolling ticker down at the bottom of the main menu that gives you updates on every fighter. some good, some neutral, some bad, i.e., Veronica got fired from her job, etc. it basically increases your odds in getting off your rainbow (ultimate) moves and giving you slightly better odds at going head to head in the button mashing contest.

You really just want to find when Jennifer is doing well then pick her. exit out of the game and come back if the ticker is saying she's had a bad day. Also, the biggest trick is to not to "randomly" pick rock, paper or scissors, but to just stick to the first one that gets you a win. basically the AI on a given fighter likes a certain sign and will use that or another one 90% of the time. So it's just a matter of quickly finding out what their go-to sign is and exploiting it everytime.

and one last thing, the two worst fighters have a comeback move if you take too much off their life at any given time during the match. so you have to fight smart against them, and that means letting them beat you up a bit since they do poor amounts of damage. and always lose the button mashing game if you get a rainbow. otherwise you'll "win" the match and then they'll pop back up and strangle you, causing you to lose. It might even be better just to back out of the game if you see those two comeback fighters coming, since it's very difficult to win if you're a bruiser like Jennifer.

I mean, I'm a bit baffled if I'm being honest. The only minigame I have problems with are Shogi and Mahjong, but that's more of a cultural divide than anything else. Mahjong is known to be complicated even for Japanese, let alone foreigners...

[Рафнсвартр]

Originally posted by Legato Bluesummers:

check out the PSN trophy guide for catfighting. basically it's not just RNG, there's a scrolling ticker down at the bottom of the main menu that gives you updates on every fighter. some good, some neutral, some bad, i.e., Veronica got fired from her job, etc. it basically increases your odds in getting off your rainbow (ultimate) moves and giving you slightly better odds at going head to head in the button mashing contest.

You really just want to find when Jennifer is doing well then pick her. exit out of the game and come back if the ticker is saying she's had a bad day. Also, the biggest trick is to not to "randomly" pick rock, paper or scissors, but to just stick to the first one that gets you a win. basically the AI on a given fighter likes a certain sign and will use that or another one 90% of the time. So it's just a matter of quickly finding out what their go-to sign is and exploiting it everytime.

and one last thing, the two worst fighters have a comeback move if you take too much off their life at any given time during the match. so you have to fight smart against them, and that means letting them beat you up a bit since they do poor amounts of damage. and always lose the button mashing game if you get a rainbow. otherwise you'll "win" the match and then they'll pop back up and strangle you, causing you to lose. It might even be better just to back out of the game if you see those two comeback fighters coming, since it's very difficult to win if you're a bruiser like Jennifer.

Great intel actually, i will go from here and try those, thanks!

[Legato Bluesummers]

Originally posted by Bisul Bernanah:

TFW thread author doesn't even pick a real answer as the best answer...

*snip*

I mean, I'm a bit baffled if I'm being honest. The only minigame I have problems with are Shogi and Mahjong, but that's more of a cultural divide than anything else. Mahjong is known to be complicated even for Japanese, let alone foreigners...

Mahjong is actually very easy once you understand the game, it's that initial curve that takes absolutely forever. for example, on my last playthrough I got almost all of the completion points for Mahjong in my first game. It actually throws you a crap ton of awesome draws sometimes, while other times giving you nothing. If you can't recognize the 2, 3 and 3+ yaku hands, it's gonna be rough. I watched this video (which is 3+ hours long) just to begin to understand it. if you don't have that kind of patience, you just need to grab a copy of the all the hands and try to recognize what you have on your initial draw. you have to choose what to go for immediately and just stick to it unless you're getting a lot of other stuff. half flushes, seven pairs and two identical sequences are just thrown at you constantly. only steal if you can get all sets (three of a kind) as your melds or always steal if you can get a set of dragon tiles or your seat wind or round wind. getting 2 of the same dragon tiles (or seat/round wind) on hand start is almost always an easy win since the computer almost always tosses their honor tiles (dragons/wind). so steal the 3rd one every time. and constantly push the x button or whatever the extra menu key is on the keyboard to check for riichi.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/241144-yakuza-0/faqs/74451/mahjong

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hlnC2rgIPrc

[Ryuuchi]

idk, i won the bet with maria on second try.

[A-CP]

the clashes are already decided beforehand, no matter how hard you mash the button, if the RNG decides you already lost then you lost, it's the same for the other way, if the RNG decides you won, you can literally press two times the button (It's requiered to at least press 1 time to win) and you will win, even if you are late

the rest is pretty RNG heavy but you can somewhat manipulate the CPU, I won with Maria just using rock/scissors 3 times on a row, the CPU usually gets baited to selecting a few times in a row the counter move, so you can just go paper or whatever to counter it

this seems to work sometimes, other times the CPU will just ♥♥♥♥ you over and counter everything you do, you can get lucky with Maria's comeback ability though

[Рафнсвартр]

Originally posted by (.)_(.):

the clashes are already decided beforehand, no matter how hard you mash the button, if the RNG decides you already lost then you lost, it's the same for the other way, if the RNG decides you won, you can literally press two times the button (It's requiered to at least press 1 time to win) and you will win, even if you are late

Originally posted by Legato Bluesummers:

basically it's not just RNG, there's a scrolling ticker down at the bottom of the main menu that gives you updates on every fighter. some good, some neutral, some bad, i.e., Veronica got fired from her job, etc. it basically increases your odds in getting off your rainbow (ultimate) moves and giving you slightly better odds at going head to head in the button mashing contest.

^ that's more accurate imo

[Legato Bluesummers]

it does appear to be true that the button mashing contests are predetermined. the psn trophy forum for catfights shows a lot of people using turbo controllers (which push the button as fast as possible) and still losing. so sometimes, you absolutely lose no matter what even if you're fighter is having a good day. it's just that you win more often and get better moves (like red and rainbow) if your fighter is having a good day. it's definitely the absolute worst trophy to go for (if that's what you're trying to do). you have to win 10 tournaments (all three rounds). and the game crashed on me twice when i won two in a row, so just exit out and save every time you win just in case.

[rupert.jonas]

Originally posted by Legato Bluesummers:

check out the PSN trophy guide for catfighting. basically it's not just RNG, there's a scrolling ticker down at the bottom of the main menu that gives you updates on every fighter. some good, some neutral, some bad, i.e., Veronica got fired from her job, etc. it basically increases your odds in getting off your rainbow (ultimate) moves and giving you slightly better odds at going head to head in the button mashing contest.

You really just want to find when Jennifer is doing well then pick her. exit out of the game and come back if the ticker is saying she's had a bad day. Also, the biggest trick is to not to "randomly" pick rock, paper or scissors, but to just stick to the first one that gets you a win. basically the AI on a given fighter likes a certain sign and will use that or another one 90% of the time. So it's just a matter of quickly finding out what their go-to sign is and exploiting it everytime.

and one last thing, the two worst fighters have a comeback move if you take too much off their life at any given time during the match. so you have to fight smart against them, and that means letting them beat you up a bit since they do poor amounts of damage. and always lose the button mashing game if you get a rainbow. otherwise you'll "win" the match and then they'll pop back up and strangle you, causing you to lose. It might even be better just to back out of the game if you see those two comeback fighters coming, since it's very difficult to win if you're a bruiser like Jennifer.

Sorry for necro-posting but you just spouted a bunch of random false nonsense. The text on the bottom doesnt mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ , you can still lose even if shes having a good day. The weird move-predicting bs you're talking about doesn't work either. It's just 100% RNG nased. Get over it.

[Рафнсвартр]

Originally posted by MG Smash or Pass:

Originally posted by Legato Bluesummers:

check out the PSN trophy guide for catfighting. basically it's not just RNG, there's a scrolling ticker down at the bottom of the main menu that gives you updates on every fighter. some good, some neutral, some bad, i.e., Veronica got fired from her job, etc. it basically increases your odds in getting off your rainbow (ultimate) moves and giving you slightly better odds at going head to head in the button mashing contest.

You really just want to find when Jennifer is doing well then pick her. exit out of the game and come back if the ticker is saying she's had a bad day. Also, the biggest trick is to not to "randomly" pick rock, paper or scissors, but to just stick to the first one that gets you a win. basically the AI on a given fighter likes a certain sign and will use that or another one 90% of the time. So it's just a matter of quickly finding out what their go-to sign is and exploiting it everytime.

and one last thing, the two worst fighters have a comeback move if you take too much off their life at any given time during the match. so you have to fight smart against them, and that means letting them beat you up a bit since they do poor amounts of damage. and always lose the button mashing game if you get a rainbow. otherwise you'll "win" the match and then they'll pop back up and strangle you, causing you to lose. It might even be better just to back out of the game if you see those two comeback fighters coming, since it's very difficult to win if you're a bruiser like Jennifer.

Sorry for necro-posting but you just spouted a bunch of random false nonsense. The text on the bottom doesnt mean ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ , you can still lose even if shes having a good day. The weird move-predicting bs you're talking about doesn't work either. It's just 100% RNG nased. Get over it.

Nah, they definitely have their prefered movesets. They react differently to your picks, i'd assume there are multiple styles, some will pick paper AGAIN and AGAIN if they win with it, others won't. Things like that I was able to spot when given it a second chance on my second playthrough. I still think that mini-game is a bunch of hоrsе ♥♥♥♥, but there is a system to it :D