Is this the best Yakuza game?

[Chris]

I think Yakuza 0 has been my game of the year, but are the other ones similarly good? I heard the map is just copy paste so I dunno if that would be too boring if you just finished zero.

[lPaladinl]

Messaggio originale di pharmacist12:

All this haruka dance dance revolution and idol crapy anime like chase a dream, ruined a story for me. This and Shinada coming nowhere out of ass somehow being a classmate of Daigo which is the whole reason why he is involved. And then at the end he is saying this lecturing Naruto like nonsense to one of the characters.
I felt really disappointed in 5, because of this, and because the main characters we're really overpowered, especially kiryu who felt like immortal at times.

What else is he supposed to feel like after Yakuza 4?

[pharmacist12]

They gave him to many buffs in 5, but luckily he was nerfed big time in zero, and became less of an imortal god, that was ridiculous.

[lPaladinl]

Messaggio originale di pharmacist12:

They gave him to many buffs in 5, but luckily he was nerfed big time in zero, and beca

Yeah but if you follow the story... after 4 he should probably feel god-tier. Makes sense in Yakuza 0 he's back to square one.

[pharmacist12]

Messaggio originale di lPaladinl:

Messaggio originale di pharmacist12:

They gave him to many buffs in 5, but luckily he was nerfed big time in zero, and beca

Yeah but if you follow the story... after 4 he should probably feel god-tier. Makes sense in Yakuza 0 he's back to square one.

Yes but gameplay wise, it felt like I used cheats or something, cheating in the game, while not using cheats, that's ridiculous.

I mean his bound throws that consumed heat in previous games, in 5 you no longer need heat to pull it off. The climax heat action that you can do when you fill it up by doing regular heat moves. And an overkill Dragon Spirit that makes it so the enemies can't hit you, or grab you, they can't do ♥♥♥♥ to you, but at least it's temporary, but still.

[Chris]

Whats worse in Kiwami 2 than in 2?

[pharmacist12]

Messaggio originale di まあくん:

One of the bests but not my favorite one. It is 2, and not the Kiwami 2, but the original one.
And if we can pick up spin offs also I prefer Kenzan too over Y0.

The map is a "copy paste" in many entries of the series, 5 has 5 cities tho and I reccomend it as the best one for side things (the main story is, in my opinion, forgettable tho).
Other than 5 also 3 has a new city (Okinawa) and 6 too (Onomichi, which is very empty and dead compared to the other locations in the series tho).

Because 2 has Shinseicho part in Sotenbori?

[Aren]

Messaggio originale di dahyunist monk:

Messaggio originale di Aren:

May I ask for the link? I want to read the review! I was also felt let down by 0.

it's a Steam review, on my profile. i'm not exactly Ernest Hemingway, mind you.

I just read it! You described very well how I felt about Yakuza 0. It really feels like a downgrade every time I remind things Yakuza 5 had. Man, what a masterpiece 5 was. It sits dearly on my heart right next to 2 and 4 (it's my favorite of main series, even if I think 2 is the better "game").

Actually, I think developing to both PS3 and PS4 kinda hurt the series, Ishin was already very grindy with its Dharma and Dungeons stuff, and the Completion List in 0 and Kiwami didn't feel like playing the whole game, with plenty of stuff being like "Talk to people X times" or "Drink X itens".

Didn't play Yakuza 6 and Kiwami 2 yet, so I hope the series gets on the right track again.

[Cress]

I'm still mad they removed the Adam minigame from 2. Kiwami doesn't have it. Or better yet, why the hell only 2 has it? Being a host and trying to make lonely women spend millions in a single night was fun. Way better than Cabaret Czar, imo.

[Aren]

Messaggio originale di まあくん:

Messaggio originale di Chris:

Whats worse in Kiwami 2 than in 2?

I don't like many things of Kiwami versions of the games (Kiwami 2 is superior to Kiwami which I consider a bad game tho).

While the original 2 had some of the best songs in the series in Kiwami 2 these songs are replaced with horrible music.
Kiwami 2 has some scenes changed in order to cut off a small part of the map, which I liked quite much.
The Dragon engine is way improved compared to Y6, but the faces still sucks and look very ugly compared to Y0 or Kiwami 1 for example, which used the older engine.
Some substory were cutted off and/or replaced, some activities were cut off and replaced with some minigame we already played in recent games (like the hostess club management copied and pasted from Y0, or the strategic battle minigame from Y6).

These are some of the reasons why I don't like Kiwami 2 as much as the original Y2.

I dropped Kiwami even before meeting Haruka at the bar. Didn't actually find it a bad game per se, but felt like it was just Yakuza 0 with 1 cutscenes.

However, I did like seeing the older Fighter and the Pocket kids all grown up and talk about how Kiryu just stopped coming to the races one day or something. Made the 10 years he spent jailed even more significant. It was a very touching moment. (The races were so much more difficult tho, it was kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lol)

[Aren]

Messaggio originale di まあくん:

Messaggio originale di Aren:

I dropped Kiwami even before meeting Haruka at the bar. Didn't actually find it a bad game per se, but felt like it was just Yakuza 0 with 1 cutscenes.

However, I did like seeing the older Fighter and the Pocket kids all grown up and talk about how Kiryu just stopped coming to the races one day or something. Made the 10 years he spent jailed even more significant. It was a very touching moment. (The races were so much more difficult tho, it was kinda ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ lol)

The worst thing in Kiwami 1 is the Majima Everywhere system in my opinion.
When I played the original one, more than 10 years ago the fights against Majima during the main story were great! Now they are like: "what? Majima again? :S".
Plus Majima character was great because you didn't know much about that crazy guy, playing it after Y0 has a really different taste. (And that's why I tell everyone the best order to play Yakuza games is release order without just starting it with 0 and continue with kiwami 1, kiwami 2,3,4,5,6).

I remember getting really impressed when Majima destroyed the Soapland with a truck just to have a fight with Kiryu. It felt more like a RE3 Nemesis moment than Majima Everywhere ever did in the 20h I played of Kiwami ): And Dragon-style being locked behind ME was almost criminal.

I also tell everyone to play on release order if possible. The base of Yakuza 0 is being a prequel and having played the others first make it so much better, as it's supposed to make we reminisce about the characters when we see things like the younger Daigo, the cutscenes related to Majima and Saejima, the banter between Kiryu and Nishiki, Kiryu finally dressed with the legendary suit, etc.

[pharmacist12]

Messaggio originale di dahyunist monk:

Messaggio originale di Aren:

May I ask for the link? I want to read the review! I was also felt let down by 0.

it's a Steam review, on my profile. i'm not exactly Ernest Hemingway, mind you.

I read the review and while I agree on some points, like more minigames(hunting is my favorite one), more cities, and more characters, you gotta take into account that as you said most minigames are not related to the timeline of zero, as for the cities and characters it was because of story, the story in yakuza 5 was kinda a mess. By having only two characters it allowed them to make the story more coherent, and having characters going around 5 cities each chapter for no good reason, isn't good either.
I disagree about kiryus real estate and majimas cabaret club being uninteresting.

As you remember in yakuza 5 akiyama had no side activity whatsoever, and what's so good about shinadas baseball? A heat gage that lets you get into slow mo mode and a rectangle with four circles, and a substories like showdowns? As for fishing it was a letdown that they took out river fishing since yakuza 3 I agree on that.

[pharmacist12]

Messaggio originale di Cress:

I'm still mad they removed the Adam minigame from 2. Kiwami doesn't have it. Or better yet, why the hell only 2 has it? Being a host and trying to make lonely women spend millions in a single night was fun. Way better than Cabaret Czar, imo.

Yeah totally agree on that one, when kiryu like congratilatrsu a client with other hosts this cutscene was good.

[Aren]

Messaggio originale di pharmacist12:

Messaggio originale di dahyunist monk:

it's a Steam review, on my profile. i'm not exactly Ernest Hemingway, mind you.

I read the review and while I agree on some points, like more minigames(hunting is my favorite one), more cities, and more characters, you gotta take into account that as you said most minigames are not related to the timeline of zero, as for the cities and characters it was because of story, the story in yakuza 5 was kinda a mess. By having only two characters it allowed them to make the story more coherent, and having characters going around 5 cities each chapter for no good reason, isn't good either.
I disagree about kiryus real estate and majimas cabaret club being not interesting.

As you remember in yakuza 5 akiyama had no side activitie whatsoever, and what's so good about shinadas baseball? A heat gage and a rectangle with four circles, and a substories like showdowns? As for fishing it was a letdown that they took out river fishing since yakuza 3 I agree on that.

By the time you reach Shinada, 5 can feel a bit too bloated for its own good with the sheer amount of content, and it can be difficult to follow the plot if you spend too much time doing that content instead of keeping with the story.

Looking at and old photo of the stat screen at the end of Y5, my first run took 93h and I did 30.01% of the game (all substories until Amon, but only Saejima and Haruka's Another Drama, iirc). ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that game was massive. Can't wait for the PC port!

[pharmacist12]

Messaggio originale di Aren:

Messaggio originale di pharmacist12:

I read the review and while I agree on some points, like more minigames(hunting is my favorite one), more cities, and more characters, you gotta take into account that as you said most minigames are not related to the timeline of zero, as for the cities and characters it was because of story, the story in yakuza 5 was kinda a mess. By having only two characters it allowed them to make the story more coherent, and having characters going around 5 cities each chapter for no good reason, isn't good either.
I disagree about kiryus real estate and majimas cabaret club being not interesting.

As you remember in yakuza 5 akiyama had no side activitie whatsoever, and what's so good about shinadas baseball? A heat gage and a rectangle with four circles, and a substories like showdowns? As for fishing it was a letdown that they took out river fishing since yakuza 3 I agree on that.

By the time you reach Shinada, 5 can feel a bit too bloated for its own good with the sheer amount of content, and it can be difficult to follow the plot if you spend too much time doing that content instead of keeping with the story.

Looking at and old photo of the stat screen at the end of Y5, my first run took 93h and I did 30.01% of the game (all substories until Amon, but only Saejima and Haruka's Another Drama, iirc). ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ that game was massive. Can't wait for the PC port!

I don't even bother touching a side content until I finished story and in premium adventure.

But yes this game has the biggest amount of content in the series, would be nice to have it on pc without crashes, freezes, etc.

[hugmugmie]

I think. YES!!!!!
No Yakuza game better than Zero. Most Fun and Funny especially Side Quest. VERY FUNNY!