I don't understand Majimas ending [SPOILERS!]

[Rammus ulted Japan]

So I just finished the game and really enjoyed it from start to finish except that I don't understand why Majima did what he did.

He helps Makoto the entire time, it is pretty clear that he likes the girl in some form or another but you are telling me that after all this time he doesn't visit her ONCE after she wakes up again towards the end?

It's not like the girl doesn't want to see him or fears him, it's not like Majima didn't listen to Sera, Majima did everything right (well as "right" as it gets), it's not like the girl will be on Yakuza radar because of one visit especially after what he did to protect her the entire time.

I know being a couple will get her on Yakuza radar but not a single visit.

I just don't understand, go visit the girl for a final farewell where you give her the clock back, what's the deal?
It's like he purposely tries to break himself to become mad.

[kirokito]

Don't worry I won't spoil anything but in Kiwami 2 they go more in depth with the aftermath :)

[Rammus ulted Japan]

Originally posted by kirokito:

Don't worry I won't spoil anything but in Kiwami 2 they go more in depth with the aftermath :)

That's a bummer then, I'm on PC and from the looks of it only Kiwami is going to be released on it, not Kiwami 2.
Well I guess I can just watch a let's play or something but thanks for the tip!

[47Haven]

In more simpler term, Majima doesn't want Makoto being connected to him at any given time after that point.

I don't play Yakuza Kiwami 2, so it's my take on it from a Yakuza 0 only player.

Now imagine this, throughout her life, Makoto has been on a streak of bad luck, with the only people helping her was Lee and Majima, later Kiryu and Tachibana (behind the scene), so naturally, she has a deep connection with these people. Then Lee's dead and Makoto hasn't spent much time with Kiryu, while it's implied that both Makoto and Majima has feelings for each other.

Now, with that situation in mind, what do you think would happen if Majima revealed himself as the guy who has been helping her all these time and came to say farewell to Makoto? Keep in mind that this is the Majima that saved her from near-death several time, the one that kept her safe and risked his life for her, the one who she talked heart-to-heart with, and the one who went on a mad rampage to the lion's den just to make her happy/fulfill her vengeance, AND that this is the Makoto that's naive and brave (stupid?) enough to go by herself, without any help, to go negotiate the killing of Dojima's favored liutenant to Dojima himself, and the Makoto who no longer has anyone to rely on but herself (or the doctors if you count them) so she would be looking for someone from her past, especially one that's really close to her.

Would she say "Okay, i guess we really can't be together, this is goodbye", and let Majima go and never look for him again, or would she disagree and not accept that they have to part way, then spent her life looking for Majima to be with him, especially now that she knows how he looks, who's his name is, and where to ask to find him?

Sure she won't be in the radar from just that one visit, but i have a strong feeling that Makoto is the kind of girl who would be looking for ways to be IN the radar just to look for Majima.


EDIT: Also on Majima being crazy, yes if you watch his dialogue in the ending, he says that he wants to life as free and as idiotic as those people who died before him, namely Lee, Nishitani, and Awano since he respected them for being much more of a man than he is and died as a great person. It's not that he's 'breaking' himself crazy, it's more like he's letting go of all the restraint he had before.

[Rammus ulted Japan]

Originally posted by 47Haven:

In more simpler term, Majima doesn't want Makoto being connected to him at any given time after that point.

I don't play Yakuza Kiwami 2, so it's my take on it from a Yakuza 0 only player.

Now imagine this, throughout her life, Makoto has been on a streak of bad luck, with the only people helping her was Lee and Majima, later Kiryu and Tachibana (behind the scene), so naturally, she has a deep connection with these people. Then Lee's dead and Makoto hasn't spent much time with Kiryu, while it's implied that both Makoto and Majima has feelings for each other.

Now, with that situation in mind, what do you think would happen if Majima revealed himself as the guy who has been helping her all these time and came to say farewell to Makoto? Keep in mind that this is the Majima that saved her from near-death several time, the one that kept her safe and risked his life for her, the one who she talked heart-to-heart with, and the one who went on a mad rampage to the lion's den just to make her happy/fulfill her vengeance, AND that this is the Makoto that's naive and brave (stupid?) enough to go by herself, without any help, to go negotiate the killing of Dojima's favored liutenant to Dojima himself, and the Makoto who no longer has anyone to rely on but herself (or the doctors if you count them) so she would be looking for someone from her past, especially one that's really close to her.

Would she say "Okay, i guess we really can't be together, this is goodbye", and let Majima go and never look for him again, or would she disagree and not accept that they have to part way, then spent her life looking for Majima to be with him, especially now that she knows how he looks, who's his name is, and where to ask to find him?

Sure she won't be in the radar from just that one visit, but i have a strong feeling that Makoto is the kind of girl who would be looking for ways to be IN the radar just to look for Majima.

Hmm yeah that makes sense actually
Though I would guess that Makoto would have learned something from the journey and become more "realistic".

But the possibility is still there yeah.... poor Majima

[Gunn]

Somebody can explain why Hiroki Awano protect Majima at the end? I don't really understand that too...
Thanks!

[Lametta]

They could have explained Majima going crazy a little better. If he had thought that she was dead going into the lion's den maybe even killing and finding out later in the after credit scene that she is still alive and happy with someone else I would have bought the shift in his personality but like this it feels more like a lazy attempt to keep the continuity.

[Erebus]

Originally posted by Lametta:

They could have explained Majima going crazy a little better. If he had thought that she was dead going into the lion's den maybe even killing and finding out later in the after credit scene that she is still alive and happy with someone else I would have bought the shift in his personality but like this it feels more like a lazy attempt to keep the continuity.

I think it's less "he's crazy" and more he's consciously hamming it up and no longer bothering to restrain himself. Some of the characters he crossed paths with doing things on their own terms even when it came to their deaths had a big impact on his view.

[_starjett]

HOW THR ♥♥♥♥ MAJIMA CANLEt SOME ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ DOCTOR TAKE HIS GIRL!!!!! I MEAN COMEON THE STORY WAS SO GOOD....I REALLY WANTED HER TO KNOW HOW MAJIMA LOOKED LIKE...FKING GAME...♥♥♥♥ FRSNSHISE

[Ogami]

What you need to realize is that while this game is the first in the timeline its the 6th released.
Majima was always the "crazy dog" in all the other games up until that point.
Seeing this other side of him in his younger years was actually the big surprise.

Of course as a new player to the franchise you dont really know that if you start with 0.
Which is actually one of the reasons i actually recommend starting with Kiwami 1+2 and only then playing 0.
That way the gameplay itself is not such a big downgrade as going from 0 to Kiwami which is a lot more restricted then 0.

Just my personal preference of course.

[Erebus]

Originally posted by Ogami:

What you need to realize is that while this game is the first in the timeline its the 6th released.
Majima was always the "crazy dog" in all the other games up until that point.
Seeing this other side of him in his younger years was actually the big surprise.

Of course as a new player to the franchise you dont really know that if you start with 0.
Which is actually one of the reasons i actually recommend starting with Kiwami 1+2 and only then playing 0.
That way the gameplay itself is not such a big downgrade as going from 0 to Kiwami which is a lot more restricted then 0.

Just my personal preference of course.

I find Kiwami/1s narrative far too weak to recommend starting with it.

The plot even with additions didn't age the best.

[HoloLiveSonic™]

oh boy, necroing a 2 year old thread