Has anyone ever won an actual game of shogi?

[Kak]

I've been challenging the old man in Sotenbori for ages now, each time telling him I have "Zero" experience, and yet every time he just destroys me. It seems like he always makes the most optimal moves no matter the difficulty. If I try to play offensively, he counters with his bishop and from there it gets promoted and the game is basically over. If I play defensively, he literally never makes any advances, just pointlessly shifting his generals around.

So, has anyone actually been able to win a full game of shogi? By that, I mean not the shogi challenges that Kiryu can play, but a full game, like the ones Majima can play with the old man. If so, how did you do it? Do you have any tips? I've read a few shogi tips online but they just don't help.

[pauls]

There is a solution. Find real game of shogi, set AI to hardest difficulty, and do against it moves which you see enemy does in this game, and counter act them with what AI does on you.

[Dung-heap]

My advice: don't waste your time with shogi.
Even with a separate screen and setting the AI to beginner, that old man still beat my high-difficulty shogi AI handily

[medion_no]

Shogi makes Freddy Krueger cry.

[Tatsuya Hiroki]

frankly im just planning to look up a guide and be done with it, i really dont care enough to do it the legit way

[luis_24g]

I won one time on the easiest difficulty, but hell if i remember what i did. What makes this game so much harder than chess is that in any moment any player can launch an airstrike with the captured pieces so not only have you to defend against what you have in front of you but also about ♥♥♥♥ you moves i put this piece from the bench here and checkmate.

[d3zt1ny]

shogi player here:
the AI in the yakuza 0 is very weak compared to both real shogi players and shogi engines, I don't know what shogi AI or engine you used to play for you but it was probably beginner level

[Phex]

This was my experience with the minigame as well. It's not even the fact that I couldn't win a single game that frustrated me. It was more the fact that when you chose the absolute lowest difficulty, the game still slammed you.
"I'm going to play like a beginner too" The hell you are. I, ME, I'm playing like a beginner. And that means making silly mistakes and forgetting what specific units do.
YOU, you cheating lying old bastard are not playing like a beginner. Becase you make NO mistakes and never, even once fail to immediately bash me if I make one.

[Phex]

If I can find a way to cheat through this minigame, then I absolutely will. Same with all the other minigames.
And this is because shogi in Yakuza 0 falls into the same trap as all the other minigames I've seen so far in the game. They're stupidly difficult and often unclear. Most importantly they miss the point of minigames. Minigames are supposed to be fun! Fun first and difficult second if at all.
If a game fails at that this badly, then it's no suprise people won't feel the need to play "fair" with it. You get the kind of loyalty you're earned from players.

[Phex]

I eventually won using a shogi simulator I found on the app store on my phone. It was free and it worked well except for the fact that it only had the japanese symbols so I constantly had to double check everything.
This meant a full hour of playing the game upside down and double checking every symbol against other pieces on the board I thought but wasn't sure were the same but in the end it did work.
If anyone wants to go the simulator route, I'd suggest using a mobile phone app rather than a browser one. The reason being that you can flip your phone and have "your" moves on the phone, which you'll actually be using the represent Yakuza's AI and be an exact copy of the game's game rather than a mirror image. This helps to avoid confusion.
And I suppose that's about all I have to say about this.
Oh, one more thing. My first win was at the highest difficulty and I got some Leeching Gloves for it. They don't seem to do what they're meant to (leach Heat) but it's worth mentioning them for completionism's sake.

[Lssrdragon66]

Originally posted by Kak:

I've been challenging the old man in Sotenbori for ages now, each time telling him I have "Zero" experience, and yet every time he just destroys me. It seems like he always makes the most optimal moves no matter the difficulty. If I try to play offensively, he counters with his bishop and from there it gets promoted and the game is basically over. If I play defensively, he literally never makes any advances, just pointlessly shifting his generals around.

So, has anyone actually been able to win a full game of shogi? By that, I mean not the shogi challenges that Kiryu can play, but a full game, like the ones Majima can play with the old man. If so, how did you do it? Do you have any tips? I've read a few shogi tips online but they just don't help.

https://gamefaqs.gamespot.com/pc/241144-yakuza-0/faqs/74451/shogi I use this guide and I won every time

[shigdig]

what do you mean “has anyone ever won a game” lmao? like on any level?

i guess i can see where you’d get that idea, considering that support for the shogi minigames is so sparse this is still one of the google first results for Yakuza 0 Shogi Challenges. it’s actually insane to me how little they’re discussed online