Beautiful game, still a little disappointed

[Altbert]

Bought the game yesterday and played a tryout with Steam in online mode. I didn't know what to expect, but while playing, I discovered a few things that disappointed me. Is it me, or is it the Windows version that is causing this?

• There is only ONE safe point in the game, and that is the point where you quit the game. If that is in the mid of a "chapter", you will always continue the game at the start of that chapter, the intro scene when you have ended your previous chapter.
  
• There is no turning back to a previous chapter if you have missed a symbol, a glyph or a trophy, although I have read about a chapter menu (only PS?).
  
• I have not played the game to the very end yet, but when are you capable of retrieving the white robe? It is said the white robe can be retrieved in the first chapter, The Beginning. Do you have to finish the game, having discovered all symbols, glyphs and trophies, and will you then be able to retrieve the white robe in the first chapter?

At a certain point another character appeared and I had no clue what was happening. My bad, as I forgot to read the info about the game. Another player joined my game and tried to help me. Multiplayer coop! As I am always playing single player games, I didn't understand what was happening and thought it was just part of the game. At a certain point I lost my coop player. Understandable! I just didn't know what the other character was up to, and I lost myself in The Tunnels.

From that point on I started to play the game with Steam in offline mode. Now the game just acts as single player and I could acquaint myself with the game and even found a way to save the game between chapters so I didn't have to start all over again when I missed something. Still, I have to start a chapter again from the beginning, the chapter's intro scene.

It's a beautiful game, no doubt about it!

[IchigoMait]

If you are in the starting hub area, you can choose to play any chapter and then continue on from there, but imo it doesn't matter, you can complete the game in 1 or 2 hours, I mean collect everything in there, and almost do all achievements besides meeting 10 unique peeps and playing it after 1 week break.

The white robe you get when you find all the hidden glyphs, then in the starting hub area there is a platform near the chapter selection where you can switch your form.

Also there is no point being disappointed about the game not saving your exact location. If you beat the game you'll understand why the game starts they way it does.

[Altbert]

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

If you are in the starting hub area, you can choose to play any chapter and then continue on from there, but imo it doesn't matter, you can complete the game in 1 or 2 hours, I mean collect everything in there, and almost do all achievements besides meeting 10 unique peeps and playing it after 1 week break.

The white robe you get when you find all the hidden glyphs, then in the starting hub area there is a platform near the chapter selection where you can switch your form.

Also there is no point being disappointed about the game not saving your exact location. If you beat the game you'll understand why the game starts they way it does.

I'm sorry to say, but I don't have an option to play any other chapter, t.i. any chapter I have already "finished" once I started the next chapter. In the menu I only have the option to continue my game, apart from options and quit.

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by Altbert:

Originally posted by IchigoMait:

If you are in the starting hub area, you can choose to play any chapter and then continue on from there, but imo it doesn't matter, you can complete the game in 1 or 2 hours, I mean collect everything in there, and almost do all achievements besides meeting 10 unique peeps and playing it after 1 week break.

The white robe you get when you find all the hidden glyphs, then in the starting hub area there is a platform near the chapter selection where you can switch your form.

Also there is no point being disappointed about the game not saving your exact location. If you beat the game you'll understand why the game starts they way it does.

I'm sorry to say, but I don't have an option to play any other chapter, t.i. any chapter I have already "finished" once I started the next chapter. In the menu I only have the option to continue my game, apart from options and quit.

I said the starting hub area, not the main menu.
In the starting hub area you can choose from what area to start, and you can see what areas you've completed, aka if you've found all the wall portraits and hidden glyphs.

[Onion Budgie]

You need to completely play through the game once before the Chapter Select area becomes available.

[Altbert]

Thanks to all! I will complete my playthrough and see what happens!

[raving_madness]

stuff like white robe and chapter select are rewards for playing at least once through the game.
as some people say, its short anyways, lets say about 2 hours and i d recommend to do one full run in one go.
you did spoil yourself with things. you expected things, without knowing what they are about. yes, thats dissapointing.
only thing you can do, is try to make the best out of it. dont lookup more and just enjoy exploring journey, find the symbols or follow companions, they often want to show where they are anyways.

the game doesnt "develop" in one playthrough, but the more often you play it, the more you learn about it. but you need an eye for details.
if you play once and another time 5 months later, you might walk into a chapter select gate and not even recognise you skipeed some levels, because you cant remember it anymore.. ;)

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by Lirewu:

stuff like white robe and chapter select are rewards for playing at least once through the game.

You get a white robe by collecting all glyphs, the last glyph will sadly only save, when you complete the game.

[raving_madness]

*at least one journey.
you can have a tier 2 white robe, but a tier 1 white doesnt exist.

[IchigoMait]

Originally posted by Lirewu:

*at least one journey.
you can have a tier 2 white robe, but a tier 1 white doesnt exist.

It doesn't exist, because the game doesn't save the glyph before completing the game. So if by chance you could trigger the save before completing the game, or editing the save file, you could prolly have tier 1 white robe.

And you get full embroidery with 4 playthroughs.

[Altbert]

Again thanks to you all! My first post was written after leaving the game during chapter 4 The Descent, unable to get all symbols, not yet knowing that you only needed the glyphs in all chapters to reach the first goal, completing the first playthrough.

I am starting to really enjoy the game, but I am still disappointed about the lack of save points, at least after finding a glyph or a symbol. If you miss a glyph you will have to redo a chapter all over again.

Now I am stuck at the point where you have to leave chapter 7 The Mountain and enter chapter 8 The Summit, at the large balcony where I get blown back all the time.

I am not used to this type of game, the reason why I decided to play my first full playthrough with Steam in offline mode, just to learn.

[Aki]

If you're stuck with those stairs, remember to press "D" instead of "W" to move upward. (It's relative to the camera orientation.) I get blown back often even though I have passed them over 30 times.

Don't be so stressed for collecting all those things in your first playthrough. Just relax and enjoy it! I did it in my 3rd playthrough and been helped by cute companions.

[Onion Budgie]

Originally posted by Altbert:

not yet knowing that you only needed the glyphs in all chapters to reach the first goal, completing the first playthrough.

I am starting to really enjoy the game, but I am still disappointed about the lack of save points, at least after finding a glyph or a symbol. If you miss a glyph you will have to redo a chapter all over again.

You don't need to collect all the glyphs in order to finish the game! The glyphs are optional, if at some point you want that particular achievement. The only thing you need do to complete the game is keep moving forward through the levels, and reach Paradise. The whole experience takes no more than two hours. I'd advise any new player to set aside that amount of time to play the game through in one sitting, rather than itty-bitty chunks. It's a far more immersive experience that way -- not to mention that if you're online then you'll meet fellow players along the way, and naturally want to stick by them, not disconnect at the end of a chapter.

The point where you're currently stuck, the windy balcony, IS an absolute pain, particularly if you're new and don't know the trick to get up the stairs quickly. Wait by the side for the wind to die down, and then pelt it up the stairs as Tung recommends, heading right as soon as you hit the top, so you reach safety where the wind can't blow you back down again.

[Altbert]

Well, I made it to The Summit! The wind blow me of the balcony but found myself on an easy path back up again, arriving at the other side of the cloth bridge. You can see that path when waiting by the side next to the stairs. After the credits the game started at the beginning again, including the changes in menu and buildings at the end of chapter 1. Thanks again for all the help. I don't know if I'm going to play online. I'm more the first person, single player type of gamer. But who knows?

[Yggdrasil]

Having a companion on the Journey more than doubles the experience! You can help and be helped enormously - that is what it is all about! And thanks again Onion Budgie for last time :-)