Secret of Mana

Secret of Mana

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Schofey Feb 17, 2018 @ 3:57am
Frame Rate Issues
I bought the game last night and was playing it for a good 3 hours at 4k60 without any drops in FR or crashes. I start playing again this morning and suddenly my FR will drop anywhere down to 47 and then back up to 60 for no apparent reason.

Has anyone else had a similar issue or any ideas on how to fix it?
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🌍 CoMaNdRGhoST Feb 17, 2018 @ 2:32pm 
I have the same issue, 75fps then drops for no reason to 35-40fps for some seconds, then back to 75, CPU and GPU only around 25% and game installed on a SSD.
Mibeal Feb 17, 2018 @ 6:10pm 
same as above lots of frame drops and tearing tried all the fixes posted so far and no change. I dont consider it unplayable but pretty disappointed how rough it runs for the price.
Larut Feb 17, 2018 @ 7:31pm 
I have to alt+tab out of the window to fix this problem, its terrible.
ModulusTwo Feb 22, 2018 @ 12:02pm 
I'm surprised this hasn't gotten more attention yet.
My game seems to be locked at 47 FPS.
On my cheap acer monitor, it is smooth at 60fps.
Playing this on an uneven / unsynchronized frame rate is hurting my eyes.

I'm playing this on my Sony XBR-55X900E @ 1080 (no need for 4k right now)
Video is passing through my Yamaha RX-V375 receiver.
Ryzen 7 1800
AMD R9 390X 8GB

All my games will play smooth and 60fps+ on the Sony TV.

Has anyone found a fix for this yet? Alt+Tab doesn't fix anything for me.
Last edited by ModulusTwo; Feb 22, 2018 @ 12:02pm
Sabishi1985 Feb 23, 2018 @ 4:30pm 
I had the same problem, but I found a workaround: You have to reinstall the game. It's annoying, but that's the only thing that worked for me. But don't forget to backup your savestates first! Because SoM isn't using Steam's cloudsaving feature at all. -.- You can find your savestates in your documents folder ("My games" -> "Secret of Mana").

I have NO idea how Square Enix f*cked this up, but I have to reinstall SoM everytime I restart my computer. Every other game runs just fine, but SoM is a very special case...
*D4rKsKy* Feb 23, 2018 @ 5:29pm 
Originally posted by Sabishi1985:
I had the same problem, but I found a workaround: You have to reinstall the game. It's annoying, but that's the only thing that worked for me. But don't forget to backup your savestates first! Because SoM isn't using Steam's cloudsaving feature at all. -.- You can find your savestates in your documents folder ("My games" -> "Secret of Mana").

I have NO idea how Square Enix f*cked this up, but I have to reinstall SoM everytime I restart my computer. Every other game runs just fine, but SoM is a very special case...
No problems here maybe check your pc it could be faulty ?
Constant 144 fps here on 4k.
Sabishi1985 Feb 23, 2018 @ 9:23pm 
Originally posted by *D4rKy*:
Originally posted by Sabishi1985:
I had the same problem, but I found a workaround: You have to reinstall the game. It's annoying, but that's the only thing that worked for me. But don't forget to backup your savestates first! Because SoM isn't using Steam's cloudsaving feature at all. -.- You can find your savestates in your documents folder ("My games" -> "Secret of Mana").

I have NO idea how Square Enix f*cked this up, but I have to reinstall SoM everytime I restart my computer. Every other game runs just fine, but SoM is a very special case...
No problems here maybe check your pc it could be faulty ?
Constant 144 fps here on 4k.

All of my other games are running fine, it's just SoM acting up. I updated drivers, checked for windows updates, I even made a clean install of steam itself! :,D The game runs amazing right after installing it. But after restarting my PC: Massive framedrops and lag spikes. I've never encountered a problem like this before and I have no clue what's going on. Temperatures are fine, GPU and CPU aren't overdoing it either.. It's just weird. Guess I'll keep reinstalling the game everyday until I finally beat it. :-/
sammus Feb 24, 2018 @ 2:44am 
Possible fix for NVIDIA users.

Navigate to your Nvidia control panel.
Click on 'Manage 3D settings'.
Under the tab 'Program Settings' find Secret of Mana. If it is not on your list you can add it by simply clicking the 'Add' button and finding it there.

Change the following:

- Power management mode - Prefer maximum performance
- Preferred refresh rate (monitor name) - Highest available
- Threaded optimisation - On
- Triple buffering - On
- Verticle sync - On

I am unsure of all of the above are needed, but that combination has fixed the issue for me. Try it out, it might work.
Sabishi1985 Feb 25, 2018 @ 7:42am 
Originally posted by Sammus Eroticus:
Possible fix for NVIDIA users.

Navigate to your Nvidia control panel.
Click on 'Manage 3D settings'.
Under the tab 'Program Settings' find Secret of Mana. If it is not on your list you can add it by simply clicking the 'Add' button and finding it there.

Change the following:

- Power management mode - Prefer maximum performance
- Preferred refresh rate (monitor name) - Highest available
- Threaded optimisation - On
- Triple buffering - On
- Verticle sync - On

I am unsure of all of the above are needed, but that combination has fixed the issue for me. Try it out, it might work.

For me SoM really is an odd case.. Maybe it's because I'm using a notebook? It's pretty powerful, but some games/hardware doesn't seem to like notebooks in general. ^^°

I'm turning on "Prefer maximum perfomance" for most of my games and usually it works like a charm. But SoM goes nuts with that setting, giving me horrible screen tearing and even more lags. :,D But turning on V-Sync in Nvidias control panel kinda helps. I just reached the Mana Temple so I'll just stick to my daily reinstall routine I guess. :,)
AtlasRedux Feb 25, 2018 @ 8:17am 
This is actually a Windows issue with Borderless Window (there is no real fullscreen mode in this game). Alt+TAB back and forth fixes it when it happens.There is no known permanent fix. This happens in a ton of games that uses Borderless Window
Harlequinsy Jun 7, 2023 @ 4:01pm 
Hi, I also had a little frame stuttering issue of sort, but I tried to check the nvidia settings like advised here. I changed from integraded card into Nvidia's, and then performance for the power management mode. It seems this made a big difference too. This seemed to help the game run ok.
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