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Mother Vain Dec 6, 2017 @ 11:27am
"Time flows like a river, and history repeats"
Can you please reinstate the most iconic quote of the game?

https://youtu.be/V1F1Uh576X8?t=92

1:30 in, for those who need it.

Everything about the opening movie was beautiful but losing that phrase was heartbreaking.

Last edited by Mother Vain; Dec 6, 2017 @ 11:39am
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Seraphita Dec 6, 2017 @ 11:55am 
Hmm... Nah, they can't. Because the guy speaks that line and the word is written. I mean, I am sure they won't "remake" it only for a few words. Not seeing the big difference between, myself.
Etherealtroll Dec 6, 2017 @ 1:06pm 
Originally posted by Vain Palazzo:
Everything about the opening movie was beautiful but losing that phrase was heartbreaking.

Agreed, I was surprised when I watched the video and saw this change, I am even more surprised I wasn't the only one to care.
VanMeilleur Dec 6, 2017 @ 2:07pm 
Its the same with fallout : war, war never change.
Each time its translated in another way.... well that not a big deal.
Etherealtroll Dec 6, 2017 @ 2:13pm 
Originally posted by VanMeilleur:
Its the same with fallout : war, war never change.
Each time its translated in another way.... well that not a big deal.

Each time its a new game though, this is a remake of the old game and they just up and said kids wont be able to assimilate this kind of text, better have an old man talking over the iconic music and lets just change this last bit here for nor eal reason.
Call Sign: Raven Dec 6, 2017 @ 5:43pm 
Wow, I'm really glad you showed me this trailer. Reinstating that one line doesn't matter at all when the voice actor clearly doesn't give a damn about what he's reading. It sounds very patronizing, like he's read these lines 1,000 times already and doesn't care about the take they ended up using.

I'll just stick with the SNES version. Thank you for saving me $40.00.
Mother Vain Dec 6, 2017 @ 7:19pm 
Originally posted by Harrison Ford:
Reinstating that one line doesn't matter at all when the voice actor clearly doesn't give a damn about what he's reading. It sounds very patronizing, like he's read these lines 1,000 times already and doesn't care about the take they ended up using.

Damn... Listening to it a second time, it sounds like he's not all into the story or really terrified of what's to come. The whole planet is terrified of the Mana Fortress.
Call Sign: Raven Dec 6, 2017 @ 10:25pm 
Exactly. That's why I'm sad. I wish there was more heart put into this. I guess we will have to wait for release.
VanMeilleur Dec 7, 2017 @ 1:57am 
They say whe could switch to japaness voice cting, maybe this change this voice too ?
Jim Darkmagic Dec 12, 2017 @ 12:06pm 
I noticed the change too... I was actually dissapointed lol. the amount of times i've seen that opening sequence...
Sub-Zero Dec 14, 2017 @ 9:29pm 
Jesus christ. I got the original SNES cart. After watching this intro I guess I'll be playing the original forever, over and over. Squaresoft totally botched that intro, no emotion for the narrator, no "Time flows like a river, and history repeats"...that's absurd. I'll get this when *maybe* it's at 90% discount.
Noragen Mar 4, 2018 @ 7:51pm 
Wow I thought I was the only one who saw this and cared!
kestral63 Jan 8, 2023 @ 2:34pm 
Ted Woolsey is one of the best translators. He did the seemingly impossible of improving on Japanese scripts back when English translations made them mostly worse by default. This is one of those lines where you can tell just how much he added, capturing the spirit of the line rather than just being overly literal. And SoM was one of his messier translations where Square supposedly didn't provide much time or coherent material.

Decades later and with a luxury of resources, good Square remakes are still a fluke because the company has no idea what it's doing, or what it ever did. People can't even convince Square to stop investing in NFT scams long after the market collapsed. It won't even repeat good history, mostly inventing new ways to screw up.
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