puzzles?

[Nuro]

any at all? if so what kinds? environmental puzzles only? id like more in depth than that but if its atleast that its a buy for me.

im sick of walking simulators where all you do is walk hide run collect a few loot items repeat to the end of the story.

[NeverSleeper]

Environmental, using/combining items to solve problems, open doors and progress through the story. The term "walking simulator" is a word used by people to desribe a genre they either don't like or don't understand. Remothered is based on th ORIGINAL survival horror, not this action crap that AAA developers churn out.

[Nuro]

ive played a lot of games that were supposed to be survival horror and ended up just being walk, run , or hide till the end of the game.

that is a walking simulator to me

the evil within 2 ?? walking simulator... a really well done one with lots of flare but never the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ less, i hated it.

i will buy this game and enjoy it although ill probably wish the puzzles were harder.

[NeverSleeper]

Originally posted by Nuro:

ive played a lot of games that were supposed to be survival horror and ended up just being walk, run , or hide till the end of the game.

that is a walking simulator to me

the evil within 2 ?? walking simulator... a really well done one with lots of flare but never the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ less, i hated it.

i will buy this game and enjoy it although ill probably wish the puzzles were harder.

If you considered The Evil Within 2 to be a "walking simulator", you are not going to like this game, this is not your kind of horror.

Like I said in my other post, look at gamelay of Haunting Ground, thats the kind of game this is.

[Nuro]

yah sorry the evil within 2 was very unenjoyable for me :(

i wish i could like that game, its not like im purposefully putting myself in a box where i hate games.

Its just not like what old survival horror was and to me thats when it was done best.

the evil within 2 had rpg elements sure..... still bored how they implemented it. It had crafting, which is cool but for elements like that to be enjoyable you first have to like the story... the story for me sucked ♥♥♥♥. i didnt feel invested at all.

for the most part the game consists of run, stealth, kill, all the way to the end.

I'll admit its not exactly a walking simulator but it felt very lacking to me still at the end of the day.

to put it into perspective, amnesia sold over a million units a week after release or some crazy number right?

the evil within 2 was a complete failure and they are a triple A game dev... they ♥♥♥♥♥♥ the formula up.

[AestheticGamer aka Dusk Golem]

I really don't think you are using the right words and are just typing up ♥♥♥♥ you read online if you consider The Evil Within 2 a "walking simulator" Chapter 2 I'll give you, but the game has quite a bit of gunplay in it and a plethora of other mechanics.

Instead of being unintuitive and just misusing words, maybe learn to express what you mean better for communication. Anyways, 'walking simulator' to many, myself included, isn't even a bad thing, there's plenty of really good actual 'walking simulators' out there like Edith Finch, Tacoma, etc.

It also doesn't really tell me what you're personally looking for, so we can't really help you outside of telling you that your labels are borked something fierce to the point we literally cannot help you because you're communicating badly.

Now for the puzzle question, having played the beta there's more than zero but they work more like the Clock Tower games if you've played those, where often the puzzles re more about observance than logic puzzles, IE this object in this situation could probably do this sort of deal.

[Nuro]

well "Walking simulator" isn't really well defined, is it? yet you think im misusing the word?

you seem to have your idea of what it is and i seem to have mine, and the evil within 2 for me was a walking simulator.

Lots of games have guns and you shoot things, it isnt the entire game. If you think im being unintutive without even defining the terms we are using, i think you are just virtue signaling. Is that fair? i think so.

also walking simulators are generally regarded as "bad" thats pretty accepted. its a derogatory term, not an actual class of games. jesus christ i had to explain that to you....

[AestheticGamer aka Dusk Golem]

Originally posted by Nuro:

well "Walking simulator" isn't really well defined, is it? yet you think im misusing the word?

you seem to have your idea of what it is and i seem to have mine, and the evil within 2 for me was a walking simulator.

Lots of games have guns and you shoot things, it isnt the entire game. If you think im being unintutive without even defining the terms we are using, i think you are just virtue signaling. Is that fair? i think so.

also walking simulators are generally regarded as "bad" thats pretty accepted. its a deragotary term, not an actual class of games. jesus christ i had to explain that to you....

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/walking_simulator

walking simulator (plural walking simulators)

(video games, sometimes derogatory) An adventure game focused on gradual exploration and discovery through observation, with little in the way of action.

That's the official meaning of the term, IE an exploratory action-less gameplay experience that was coined for the genre of 'narrative experiences' that blew up after Dear Esther's official release (not the mod) and following big successes like Gone Home and Stanley Parable to describe a genre of gameplay-lite narrative focused exploration games.

However, the bigger point is you're not really making it clear what you want or are looking for, so we can't really help you. Because of your failsafe description, it doesn't tell us what you're actually meaning.

[WolfCatDog]

I guess English is his second language, and hes seen terms used on the internet regarding the new wave of survival horror games, seen it's negative usage, then disliked a game and the term 'walking simulator' came to mind. Ends up makes no sense.

I can't understand from his posts what he actually dislikes, or wants. Too much contradiction.

[Nuro]

Originally posted by AestheticGamer:

Originally posted by Nuro:

well "Walking simulator" isn't really well defined, is it? yet you think im misusing the word?

you seem to have your idea of what it is and i seem to have mine, and the evil within 2 for me was a walking simulator.

Lots of games have guns and you shoot things, it isnt the entire game. If you think im being unintutive without even defining the terms we are using, i think you are just virtue signaling. Is that fair? i think so.

also walking simulators are generally regarded as "bad" thats pretty accepted. its a deragotary term, not an actual class of games. jesus christ i had to explain that to you....

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/walking_simulator

walking simulator (plural walking simulators)

(video games, sometimes derogatory) An adventure game focused on gradual exploration and discovery through observation, with little in the way of action.

That's the official meaning of the term, IE an exploratory action-less gameplay experience that was coined for the genre of 'narrative experiences' that blew up after Dear Esther's official release (not the mod) and following big successes like Gone Home and Stanley Parable to describe a genre of gameplay-lite narrative focused exploration games.

its more often than not used as a derogatory term.

[Nuro]

if the games an exploration game, like gone home was, its not simply a walking simulator.

[Nuro]

Originally posted by WolfCatDog:

I guess English is his second language, and hes seen terms used on the internet regarding the new wave of survival horror games, seen it's negative usage, then disliked a game and the term 'walking simulator' came to mind. Ends up makes no sense.

I can't understand from his posts what he actually dislikes, or wants. Too much contradiction.

you are one hundred percent wrong.

i dont like the game because "I" do not like it. I perceive it as a walking simulator.

[WolfCatDog]

Ok, you can create your own language and speak with yourself, like you pretty much are in this topic.

[Nuro]

its right in your definition of "Walking simulator"

its supposed to be an "adventure game" with exploration and discovery being the gameplay.

the term walking simulator is what people call games when they are the above definition in a genre that should be a lot more.

[Nuro]

Originally posted by WolfCatDog:

Ok, you can create your own language and speak with yourself, like you pretty much are in this topic.

what is it you cant understand exactly? im not trying to be obtuse, so if you can articulate what exactly your having trouble with i can probably explain it better for you.

[kevinmask78]

Originally posted by KazukoGurezaki:

Originally posted by Nuro:

ive played a lot of games that were supposed to be survival horror and ended up just being walk, run , or hide till the end of the game.

that is a walking simulator to me

the evil within 2 ?? walking simulator... a really well done one with lots of flare but never the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ less, i hated it.

i will buy this game and enjoy it although ill probably wish the puzzles were harder.

If you considered The Evil Within 2 to be a "walking simulator", you are not going to like this game, this is not your kind of horror.

Like I said in my other post, look at gamelay of Haunting Ground, thats the kind of game this is.

Well, Haunting Ground and Clock Tower 3 were great games, enjoyed them a lot, can't say the same about Evil Within 2 which I also find a walking simulator, the latter is surely more towards the modern action horror games than classic survival horrors