Stupid Design

[GucciCoffin]

I assume it was intended for teams to spec all defense and run sand shield to where u literally have to stand there and watch them cap bases? Good Job, this game is what everyone wanted, and u messed it up, idk how, but u managed to mess it up.

[GucciCoffin]

so far, all of my "ranked, which apparently is random game modes every week? cool....." matches has been a "get away from me" fight. shields, almighty push, snake arms, and cc. its a damn naruto game, i want to fight. but i just get knocked away, cc'd, knocked away, and die trying to break shields. This game is a let down.

[obliviondoll]

Originally posted by Bmeyer:

you know what the hell i meant lol playing dumb doesnt suit anyone.

I know what you said, and I responded to it. I even expanded on the general topic you could have been referring to with the example of Sasuke (who you can still reproduce just fine in spite of your claims tot he contrary) by mentioning that there are jutsu options which let you equip off-role powers for every role out there and do things that aren't part of the "normal" powerset for your chosen class.

Also, you'd have been better off making both those posts as one, or editing the first one and adding the second line, there was no need to double-post that.

Originally posted by Bmeyer:

so far, all of my "ranked, which apparently is random game modes every week? cool....." matches has been a "get away from me" fight. shields, almighty push, snake arms, and cc. its a damn naruto game, i want to fight. but i just get knocked away, cc'd, knocked away, and die trying to break shields. This game is a let down.

So far, all the ranked play I've seen has been, yes, a random game mode each week. And yes, game modes which encourage "keepaway" type play - knocking people off capture points, or pushing them away from flags. And even in straight combat, pushing or pulling a single player out of position can be viable to open them up for a 1 vs. many fight. If that's not what you're looking for, then... well, yeah, I guess you bought the wrong game. Sorry to hear you bought a team-focused game and were disappointed that it's built around teamwork?

Maybe you should do actual research about a game before buying it next time? I still haven't bought it because I do my research. But what my research tells me so far is that I'm probably going to really enjoy the game when I get it.

[GucciCoffin]

ACTUALLY U CANNOT CREATE SASUKE. Sasuke outfit? yes. Sasuke jutsu? yes. Sasuke weapon? oh darn im sorry, only healers can use sasukes sword, which makes the jutsu not usuable. dang. Such a stupid system. And yes, this game is a moba type game, i didnt do my research. But thats why im making these posts but for some reason you keep trying to prove me wrong. My points are valid but u are just shilling for this game...

[Aqua Akai]

Originally posted by Bmeyer:

ACTUALLY U CANNOT CREATE SASUKE. Sasuke outfit? yes. Sasuke jutsu? yes. Sasuke weapon? oh darn im sorry, only healers can use sasukes sword, which makes the jutsu not usuable. dang. Such a stupid system. And yes, this game is a moba type game, i didnt do my research. But thats why im making these posts but for some reason you keep trying to prove me wrong. My points are valid but u are just shilling for this game...

wrong sauskes blade is a ranged weapon he duel weilds it with a kunai i have it myself fact check bro

[GucciCoffin]

Then where and how do u get it? stats? anything besides words? What weapon is it a skin of?

[Aqua Akai]

Originally posted by Bmeyer:

Then where and how do u get it? stats? anything besides words? What weapon is it a skin of?

it seems to be a skin of the basic kunai and i got it from ten tens shop but i never saw it till after i became a chunin

[Aqua Akai]

Originally posted by Bmeyer:

Then where and how do u get it? stats? anything besides words? What weapon is it a skin of?

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1509033234

[King Trike]

I mean it's a team based game that allows you to switch classes mid game. Ever played overwatch? if you spec your classes right you should be able to counter any kinda issue you're having other thant Planetary, which has an extremely low charge rate.
And yes i do want a change for planetary.

[GucciCoffin]

ok so it has same stats and combo as kunai? like i said three weapons per spec, just recolors/skins. im just disapointed in this game. sure maybe it looks like sasukes sword, but the class that gets swords is healer. the class that gets the big huge swords that deal massive damage? defenders... melee fighters get cats paws and brass knuckles, where is orochimaru? where is the snake substitution? instead we get cat ears, specs that no one wanted, and u cannot even que for a all out fight unless it randomly lands on the ranked selection. this game is garbage and not what everyone wanted it to be. sure the shills will defend it, thats expected. what about the camera? dont lock on because your fighting multiple people? well good luck cuz your abilities will be flying everywhere. lock on when your fighting multiple people? well good luck trying to switch to the other person mid fight. Im sure i need to "get good". But taking an awesome francise and making it into a ♥♥♥♥♥♥, basic moba was dumb as hell. This an a mmorpg, with more freedom and it wouldve been a gold mine. Now itll be dead in a month.

[GucciCoffin]

Originally posted by AverageBlackGuy:

I mean it's a team based game that allows you to switch classes mid game. Ever played overwatch? if you spec your classes right you should be able to counter any kinda issue you're having other thant Planetary, which has an extremely low charge rate.
And yes i do want a change for planetary.

The point is i shouldnt have to switch from what i like to play because a team is spamming sand shield/snake arms. This whole idea of "we know u like to play this way, but thats not gonna work in this game" is dumb. I play games for fun, not to have other people tell me how to play. I want to be a ranged ninjutsu user, but when im against a all sand shield team, im supposed to change abilities... thats lame, boring, and not fun.

[iYosh]

there's your misconception. you can play whatever you want. you have to live with the consequences of that.
i choose to not run sand shield counters on my healing and ranged loadouts, knowing full well what that means. i'll be better in other areas because of that.

[wizard master結城晶子リ]

Originally posted by Takanoshiden:

run counters against sand shield you really only need like 2-3 people with counters agianst them to effectively shot them down

not really jut use all might push it instnatly stops it or amatarastu or rasengan any rasengan stop it may take 2 or 1 depending on witch rasengan

[obliviondoll]

Young Sasuke when he first started using Chidori - the one whose abilities you actually get - used kunai and you can do that on ranged characters from the start.

As mentioned, Sasuke's sword is unlockable as a unique variant weapon for the ranged class (it's not just a reskin of the kunai, it has slightly different combos).

What you *CAN'T* do is use Chidori or a fireball jutsu that's a ranged ability and have sharingan as an equipped ability. Because THAT is class-locked to attack because you get it from Kakashi, and is kind of silly not to be available to other classes. Similarly, Neji's palm rotation is a defense class ability, but you learn Byakugan from Hinata, and she's a healer so that's only available to healers and the two can't be used together.

I hope that SOME abilities are unlocked or have less limitations - like some jutsus that can be attack/ranged or healer/defense or other multi-role combinations depending on the jutsu. And I hope that happens with some of the weapons as well - there are things which make sense to have cross-class access to.

And EVERY class has counters against sand shield. That's totally reasonable to shut down in a wide variety of ways depending on your class. What DOESN'T have any valid or reliable counters is planetary devastation.

[GucciCoffin]

You guys aren’t listening.... lol. Yes sand shield has counters, cool. But that means I have to take one of my TWO ninjutsu slots to be able to stop one guy from using it.... as a ranged spec my ninjutsu are my main source of damage. Melee sucks, and kunai combo is easy to dodge by double jumping. So like I said it gimps me when teams are spamming sand shield so much that I have to run it. The game is set up to be a teamwork makes the dream work moba but gimps you to two abilities and a special that’s never charged when u need it. Idk about you guys but I’ve been dying for a Naruto mmo or something to that affect for a long as time and I thought this was a step towards that. Turns out they just slopped a game together with Naruto on the cover.

[obliviondoll]

If teams are spamming sand shield so much you "have to" run a counter to it, then THEY are sacrificing multiple jutsu slots across multiple players on an ability you can counter with ONE of your slots on ONE character. And in taking that jutsu (Amaterasu for ranged, since that's your main), you're getting one of the longer-range powers your class has, with moderate direct damage, an area control effect, and a damage over time property that procs on the target and an area around them, and again every time someone touches the area it controls. It's a solid and useful power in base capture mode, and a decent power with slightly more situational usefulness in capture the flag, even when the opponent doesn't bring sand shield.

And if you have all 4 enemies using sand shield, you still only need 2 people with appropriate counter options to shut them down effectively. And every class (still) has counter options they can use.

So... no, none of your claims are actually true on that part.

And there are multiple ways to improve the speed your ultimate charges, or just being competent at managing when you use it so it's available when you need it. That just makes you sound like you don't know what you're doing.

And how is a game that's SPECIFICALLY AND DIRECTLY ADVERTISED AS 4v4 MULTIPLAYER supposed to be "MMO" exactly? That's... like... you didn't even read the store description. Or look at any of the screenshots. Or watch any of the dozens of pre-release videos about the game explaining what it actually is. Or do literally anything but "It has NARUTO in the title TAKE MY MONEY" then wonder why it wasn't an entirely unrelated game to what it was always advertised to be.