This game IS P2W

[Armando Broncas]

There is an upgrade system, that's all you need to know, your weapons/armor whatever will have a chance to break AND:

THEY WILL SELL YOU THE OIL OR THE POTION THAT WILL MAKE EITHER IMPOSSIBLE TO BREAK OR INCREASE THE CHANCE OF SUCCESS BY A CERTAIN % AND THEY WILL STACK...

People with experience with Korean MMO's know this is 100% truth, games like RO online or Dragon Nest had this ♥♥♥♥♥♥ system, it is 100% P2W.

That is all you need to know.

Don't bother with this.

[WeylandYutani]

This Game has only one purpose to squeeze out Money from Anime fans. Gameforge and Friends always grab a Game not to expensive but with enough hype, fumbles it together with the least amount of effort and change the actual Game in a way to convince or nicely force you to buy into it, making it tasty with some Gifts here and there.

[nexcro25]

Originally posted by ⇋๖ۣۜBᴏxᴇʀ ♥♥:

Originally posted by nexcro25:

Buuuuut you can sell shop items to get silver ( money ) to buy the best items ingame ( if someone sell it )

so now and think about this before you reply, whats the diffrence here in Soulworker? lol

PS. should add ( in BDO you can also use that items from level 1 ( exept awake weapon )

You can sell items on marketplace, yeah, but try to get enough money to do anything just with that method. You would have to spend thousands of $ to get a single TET weapon.

you can spend your money in the market place here aswell, and if a weapon was +9 with good stats i think they will be pricy aswell, so dont see a diffrence here? in both games you can buy for real money to get ingame currency so why protect one of the two games that allow this?

Originally posted by ⇋๖ۣۜBᴏxᴇʀ ♥♥:

Originally posted by nexcro25:

this is what i feelt was forced on me to buy from both games

BDO
- Fashion set clearly for the bonuses
- pets and upgrade them to be able to auto loot
- that vip pack ( forgot name ) for the boons
- bag wight becouse im a hoarder and dont wanna travel hours daily lol
- flute to summon horsy (perma one)
- horse gear for the bonuses
- horse breed extra attempts ( similar to broken reset on soulworker isnt it? lol )

(i buyed everything above + some other things)

If you don't know how to spend your money its not anyone's fault.
Costume gives little bonus and can be bought on marketplace (i do have more than 15 costumes bought on MP) for just 30m silver, wich you can make in 1 hour of grinding, same goes for value pack. Weight and all other stuff is not needed and its your choice to buy it, wich most noobs do in the first hours of the game. There's a reason BDO or any other non p2w games like Warframe are the most played MMOs.

not saying its anyones fault lol, and its fun to see you defend a game that clearly have same form of "p2w" xD

here is the thing both games offer stats in fashion both games offer the way to buy for real money to sell for ingame, but so far i see more people selling in soulworker and for a decent price aswell

if you think that BDO is a non p2w game so would this game be if this game had pets and mounts that list i typed would be a copy to soulworker ( gameforge dont get any ideas now )

and both game its optional. but the force was stronger in BDO becouse you could get killed while farming you had to run from point A to B ( no teleport ) there was these small things that made you think "damn should have got this" and so far soulworker havnt had this i need to get this becouse of this, sure the energy is nice to have extra but i dont even use my ep pots so i could basicly remove my vip and go with them only


both games has there flaws, and both got something good none of the games is perfect, but i played one and spend my money and quit and move on now im here playing this game and so far it feels better both in gameplay and my wallet, if its diffrent for you "If you don't know how to spend your money its not anyone's fualt" if i can quote you ;)

Happy gaming

[Bloodchant]

If you think that pay to skip, pay to progress, and etc is p2w, then you could say that about many games including BDO, Tera Online, Closers, La Tale, Elsword, Blade and Soul, League of Legends, Mass Effect 3, Revelation Online, and many other games

Every single one of those games has a way for you to acquire characters faster, or job advancements while skipping certain requirements,

Blade and Soul: you can buy mats for real money pets that give you more stats, among other things.

Tera Online: Costume equipment that gives you stats, xp boosts, Premium, among other things

Closers: XP boosts, Premiums, Costumes gives more stats than the one you can find, faster farming/exploration for your house

La Tale: Pets with autoloot, XP boost, among other things

Elsword: Pets and mounts that gives you extra bonus, Job Advancement quest skip, among other things

League of Legends: You can just by the characters you want there are also XP and gold Boosts

Mass Effect 3: Loot boxes you can buy with real money that includes character boosts, weapons , and equipment (same for Mass Effect Andromeda)

Revelation Online: (only played beta) XP boosts, Mounts that can fly, loot boxes

Heroes of the Storm: Loot boxes, ability to buy Characters with real money

WoW: you can buy WoW tokens and auction them for gold, Pets you can use in pet battle, Max level for characters.

Warframe: Frames, Mods, Endo, XP, drop rate, and Item boosts, Weapons too

BDO: Costume gives stats, Pets gives autoloot and better stats, Horse breeding resets, XP boosts , Item drop rate boosts among other things

[Bloodchant]

Originally posted by ⇋๖ۣۜBᴏxᴇʀ ♥♥:

Originally posted by bladeofnyx:

If you're saying Soulworker is p2w so is Warframe AND BDO

All of them has exp buffs, item drop rates, and hell BDO outfits gives you extra stats too, and those items you can't get for free anywhere in the game unless you spend MILLIONS on the auction when getting money in that game is rather more difficult than Soulworker. As for Warframe you can buy everything with Platinum Be it Prime weapons or Prime Warframes you can also buy creds so that you can buy Prime mods from other people for 1m cred so NO if you consider Warframe and BDO p2w then Soulworker is p2w if you DON'T consider them p2w then Soulworker is NOT p2w

You don't even know how both BDO and Warframe work :facepalm:
In BDO, you can have enough silver to buy 1 outfit with 1 hour of grinding
In Warframe, you can get Platinum as normal currency.
Please, before posting inform yourself a bit ;)

I have a level 61 Dark Knight in BDO, and in Warframe on the ps4 I'm mastery ranked 14 with almost all prime Warframes so ya......

For BDO yes it's possible if you don't get pk'd by those that are higher lvl then you at the higher lvl hunting areas

and for Warframe Sure you can get platinum only if you have items worth selling for platinums of course that also depends on how long you've played Warframe if you have all starting stuff then most people will buy your stuff for maybe 10-20 platinum unless you get lucky in doing Relics (Which btw you can buy with platinum in the cashshop) and where do you think those platinum comes from? Farming? Platinum is something that somebody bought in one point in time

So before you start mocking somebody please do more research and maybe just maybe not be so judging when you don't know the other person

Come at me~

[Bloodchant]

If you think that this game is p2w

If you think that pay to skip, pay to progress, and etc is p2w, then you could say that about many games including BDO, Tera Online, Closers, La Tale, Elsword, Blade and Soul, League of Legends, Mass Effect 3, Revelation Online, and many other games

Every single one of those games has a way for you to acquire characters faster, or job advancements while skipping certain requirements,

Blade and Soul: you can buy mats for real money pets that give you more stats, among other things.

Tera Online: Costume equipment that gives you stats, xp boosts, Premium, among other things

Closers: XP boosts, Premiums, Costumes gives more stats than the one you can find, faster farming/exploration for your house

La Tale: Pets with autoloot, XP boost, among other things

Elsword: Pets and mounts that gives you extra bonus, Job Advancement quest skip, among other things

League of Legends: You can just by the characters you want there are also XP and gold Boosts

Mass Effect 3: Loot boxes you can buy with real money that includes character boosts, weapons , and equipment (same for Mass Effect Andromeda)

Revelation Online: (only played beta) XP boosts, Mounts that can fly, loot boxes

Heroes of the Storm: Loot boxes, ability to buy Characters with real money

WoW: you can buy WoW tokens and auction them for gold, Pets you can use in pet battle, Max level for characters.

Warframe: Frames, Mods, Endo, XP, drop rate, and Item boosts, Weapons too

BDO: Costume gives stats, Pets gives autoloot and better stats, Horse breeding resets, XP boosts , Item drop rate boosts among other things

[ZyraTheEchidna]

I assume you are talking aout GameForge's TERA?
As Enmasse doesnt have stats on costumes for TERA

[76561198392015274]

Originally posted by bladeofnyx:

If you think that pay to skip, pay to progress, and etc is p2w, then you could say that about many games including BDO, Tera Online, Closers, La Tale, Elsword, Blade and Soul, League of Legends, Mass Effect 3, Revelation Online, and many other games

Every single one of those games has a way for you to acquire characters faster, or job advancements while skipping certain requirements,

Blade and Soul: you can buy mats for real money pets that give you more stats, among other things.

Tera Online: Costume equipment that gives you stats, xp boosts, Premium, among other things

Closers: XP boosts, Premiums, Costumes gives more stats than the one you can find, faster farming/exploration for your house

La Tale: Pets with autoloot, XP boost, among other things

Elsword: Pets and mounts that gives you extra bonus, Job Advancement quest skip, among other things

League of Legends: You can just by the characters you want there are also XP and gold Boosts

Mass Effect 3: Loot boxes you can buy with real money that includes character boosts, weapons , and equipment (same for Mass Effect Andromeda)

Revelation Online: (only played beta) XP boosts, Mounts that can fly, loot boxes

Heroes of the Storm: Loot boxes, ability to buy Characters with real money

WoW: you can buy WoW tokens and auction them for gold, Pets you can use in pet battle, Max level for characters.

Warframe: Frames, Mods, Endo, XP, drop rate, and Item boosts, Weapons too

BDO: Costume gives stats, Pets gives autoloot and better stats, Horse breeding resets, XP boosts , Item drop rate boosts among other things

League of legends P2W lol

[Skaze]

Just a heads up, BDO is P2W af and I'm not even ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥

[Alex]

No what this person is trying to say is those who are saying Soul Worker is pay 2 win has no brains which is why he/she said League of Legend is pay 2 win. So people say paying for Premium is pay 2 win then all the freaking games in the world would be pay2win. Next thing they'll say is that the Earth is flat. There is nothing we can do about idiots in this world. I can understand the frustration but there is no use in putting it in the Discussion Threads.

[Bloodchant]

Originally posted by ⇋๖ۣۜBᴏxᴇʀ ♥♥:

Originally posted by bladeofnyx:

I have a level 61 Dark Knight in BDO, and in Warframe on the ps4 I'm mastery ranked 14 with almost all prime Warframes so ya......

For BDO yes it's possible if you don't get pk'd by those that are higher lvl then you at the higher lvl hunting areas

and for Warframe Sure you can get platinum only if you have items worth selling for platinums of course that also depends on how long you've played Warframe if you have all starting stuff then most people will buy your stuff for maybe 10-20 platinum unless you get lucky in doing Relics (Which btw you can buy with platinum in the cashshop) and where do you think those platinum comes from? Farming? Platinum is something that somebody bought in one point in time

So before you start mocking somebody please do more research and maybe just maybe not be so judging when you don't know the other person

Come at me~

In BDO, you can farm silver in most level 56+ spots or even Helms and i never got Pk'd once in 970 hours i have and like 90% of this playtime is active gameplay and not afk lifeskilling, even if you do get pk'd a lot like you say, just switch channel or don't do the main rotation, things that you should know. (BTW being level 61 means less than 0 as you can be easily carried, a thing that i do often with my friends to bring them to 59-60 so they can basically do anything when they get the gear.

In Warframe i was MR16 on console and im MR12 (then i stopped playing because i got bored) here on PC with most of the normal frames built, all prime frames (including the vaulted ones and except excalibur obviously), a ton of weapons and basically all the essential mods for any kind of build i want to do (i solo sorties because its easier most of the times). I have 3500 spare platinum after getting all deluxe skins and trading a lot in 300 hours i played and i didn't even sweat it out or buy it.

My opinion does not change and you still look like you're not informed at all, also hiding behind a private profile proves my point even more.

Mocking people still, just because you can't see my steam profile? If a profile was all that matters for a gamer's life then you must be a sad person?

As for BDO within 100 hrs of playing BDO when I was in Helms I was ALWAYS pk'd because HELMS dropped an account bound set items that was better than a normal Orge ring as it had ATK 11.

61 is nothing only when you get carried, say that to people that doesn't get carried or just started the game that has almost nothing

As for Warframe NOTICE i said DEPENDING on how LONG you've played? Or can you not read very well? If you've played for 300 hrs then YES getting Platinum is a walk in the park there is a reason WHY all the NEW players for Warframe tends to quit Early on. If you want to be more informed why don't you actually look beyond a person's profile?
We didn't have that ♥♥♥♥ in PS2 or PS1 wanna compare? Come back after you've grown a bit before crying about this?

[Alex]

So having items to make sure that your weapons don't break is pay2win? What? You never played Mabinogi, or Maplestory huh? That crap is pure pay2win as you can just throw money into the game and your damage goes through the freaking roof (if rngesus blesses you but thats for another day). I tried catching up without throwing money into those games but your damage on a scale of 1-100 is 0.0005 while everyone else who just wallet warrior their way there is over 9000.

[Bloodchant]

Originally posted by Haru:

So having items to make sure that your weapons don't break is pay2win? What? You never played Mabinogi, or Maplestory huh? That crap is pure pay2win as you can just throw money into the game and your damage goes through the freaking roof (if rngesus blesses you but thats for another day). I tried catching up without throwing money into those games but your damage on a scale of 1-100 is 0.0005 while everyone else who just wallet warrior their way there is over 9000.

You forgot to add Perfect World.....

[Simply Booba]

Originally posted by Haru:

No what this person is trying to say is those who are saying Soul Worker is pay 2 win has no brains which is why he/she said League of Legend is pay 2 win. So people say paying for Premium is pay 2 win then all the freaking games in the world would be pay2win. Next thing they'll say is that the Earth is flat. There is nothing we can do about idiots in this world. I can understand the frustration but there is no use in putting it in the Discussion Threads.:SocialPolicy:

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[Simply Booba]

Originally posted by bladeofnyx:

Originally posted by Haru:

So having items to make sure that your weapons don't break is pay2win? What? You never played Mabinogi, or Maplestory huh? That crap is pure pay2win as you can just throw money into the game and your damage goes through the freaking roof (if rngesus blesses you but thats for another day). I tried catching up without throwing money into those games but your damage on a scale of 1-100 is 0.0005 while everyone else who just wallet warrior their way there is over 9000.

You forgot to add Perfect World.....

ur mom gay

[kasadina]

I think you re-learn the meaning of P2W before start this ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ about the issue. Pay to win means you PAY cash for ingame items that enhance your performance in the game for example: VIP SILVER & GOLD PACK (not very important), Akashas, broonches this items enhance your ingame play so yea...

Tera is one of the best free to play out there if you play with enmass, WoW has nothing nothing near the idea of pay to win, sure you pay for pets but pets dont help you progress in raid. max level sure you can grind the gold and buy tokens trade then for cash and buy the boost with your own gold, also you can pay your own month sub withot put any real money in the game.

None of this game you mention have P2W elements only revelation online that its one of the most pay 2 wins games out there.

so get your ♥♥♥♥ right and learn the real meaning of pay to win.