The game is abandoned, stop buying it.

[Demonsamura]

https://playsaurus.com/blogposts/TheStateOfCH2.html

I saw the review score went up to mixed. The devs screwed up this game, then abandoned it. They are so scummy they didn't even update the steam page. I don't know why steam hasn't done anything about it. This is a warning to anyone looking at this game, don't support this dev unless you like flushing your money down the toilet.

[Melodia]

Originally posted by Demonsamura:

I don't know why steam hasn't done anything about it.

Because the game still works. Regardless of its abandoned state, it's still eons better as a game than the 1000s of asset flips and whatever, no to mention the disclaimer on the store page:

" This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development"

If you buy it without further research, that's on you.

[Demonsamura]

Originally posted by Melodia:

Originally posted by Demonsamura:

I don't know why steam hasn't done anything about it.

Because the game still works. Regardless of its abandoned state, it's still eons better as a game than the 1000s of asset flips and whatever, no to mention the disclaimer on the store page:

" This Early Access game is not complete and may or may not change further. If you are not excited to play this game in its current state, then you should wait to see if the game progresses further in development"

If you buy it without further research, that's on you.

The disclaimer is one thing but there is no excuse for them not updating the steam page if they aren't going to follow through with the road map. It's a trap they are letting people fall into to try to recuperate some of the money they squandered screwing up the development. I bought in on launch so there is no "research" for me to do but someone shouldn't get screwed because the devs decided to keep a deceiving roadmap on their steam page.

[Ferinzz]

If the user isn't happy with what they got they can refund it.

[Kate_Unknown]

Originally posted by Ferinzz:

If the user isn't happy with what they got they can refund it.

It takes longer than 2 hours to realize in game that the devs left the game in an incompletable state.

The first few hours aren't representive of the rest because progress is actually possible in that time frame.

[Crosis]

Originally posted by Demonsamura:

https://playsaurus.com/blogposts/TheStateOfCH2.html

I saw the review score went up to mixed. The devs screwed up this game, then abandoned it. They are so scummy they didn't even update the steam page. I don't know why steam hasn't done anything about it. This is a warning to anyone looking at this game, don't support this dev unless you like flushing your money down the toilet.

Thanks man :(

[computerquip]

I think this thread is sort of what irritates me about the general gaming community.

We don’t know what the future holds for Clicker Heroes 2. We are very glad it still has a following and we won’t abandon the project, but we can’t promise large scale updates, at least for the near future. We simply can’t afford it, we already spent much more money than we made from it on the updates we already provided.

In its current state, the game has a significant amount of content, and there are lots of players who like it, and lots of players who expect more from it. But we’ve reached a point where we can’t afford to make the same scale of updates that we have done in the past.

It's not that they abandoned it, it's that they literally don't have the resources to work on it. In the middle of really poor reception, half their fan base starts screaming not to buy the game (before they started laying off team members mind you). So on top of people saying they don't like the game, they start boycotting the game. Great. Why in the *♥♥♥♥* would anyone expect updates to this game? The horse is dead, we can stop beating it with a stick.

[davidb11]

Yeah. It's a bit of a shame they're pretty much done with this game, but it's playable.
And honestly, their new game Poker Quest does look good.

However, a lot of angry angry people are still upset about this game.

[Minus]

Originally posted by Melodia:

If you buy it without further research, that's on you.

No. It's on Steam and the developers for lying on the store page. They have no legal defence against any single refund request given that they are currently calling the game an early access game, and thus promising that they are still working on it. If they are refusing anyone's refunds and it went to court, they'd lose handidly the moment a judge saw the store page. It's not our job to not get tricked. Laws are being ignored here. It's ironic that you'd know this if you did the research.

Seriously thank you to everyone starting topics like this and leaving the reviews that explain things. You managed to keep me from buying this game so I'm sure you're doing the same for others too. Keep being awesome.

[Jonathan911217]

I just bought the game, it's soo fun!! Sad that they abandoned it, I really like it actually so far at least lol

[davidb11]

Originally posted by Minus:

Originally posted by Melodia:

If you buy it without further research, that's on you.

No. It's on Steam and the developers for lying on the store page. They have no legal defence against any single refund request given that they are currently calling the game an early access game, and thus promising that they are still working on it. If they are refusing anyone's refunds and it went to court, they'd lose handidly the moment a judge saw the store page. It's not our job to not get tricked. Laws are being ignored here. It's ironic that you'd know this if you did the research.

Seriously thank you to everyone starting topics like this and leaving the reviews that explain things. You managed to keep me from buying this game so I'm sure you're doing the same for others too. Keep being awesome.

Early Access games have a banner that specifically states "This game may not be completed."
IT is a legal catch all.
Not sure why you think an Early Access game must be completed.

Regardless, while it is a shame it isn't completed, the Early Access warning makes it very clear when you buy an Early Access game that it comes as is, with all possible wording framed to let you know what you're getting into.

It's like Sky Diving and how there's so many different warnings and forms you have to fill out.

[Tower Dove]

It's the sketchiest purchase I made in 30 years of gaming. This title is unfinished and it doesn't work properly in current state. Yes it looks ok for like idle for 2 days then it gets kind of rigged.

[davidb11]

Originally posted by Tower Dove:

It's the sketchiest purchase I made in 30 years of gaming. This title is unfinished and it doesn't work properly in current state. Yes it looks ok for like idle for 2 days then it gets kind of rigged.

That's weird.
It should work fine.

[Arevi]

Originally posted by computerquip:

I think this thread is sort of what irritates me about the general gaming community.

We don’t know what the future holds for Clicker Heroes 2. We are very glad it still has a following and we won’t abandon the project, but we can’t promise large scale updates, at least for the near future. We simply can’t afford it, we already spent much more money than we made from it on the updates we already provided.

In its current state, the game has a significant amount of content, and there are lots of players who like it, and lots of players who expect more from it. But we’ve reached a point where we can’t afford to make the same scale of updates that we have done in the past.

It's not that they abandoned it, it's that they literally don't have the resources to work on it. In the middle of really poor reception, half their fan base starts screaming not to buy the game (before they started laying off team members mind you). So on top of people saying they don't like the game, they start boycotting the game. Great. Why in the *♥♥♥♥* would anyone expect updates to this game? The horse is dead, we can stop beating it with a stick.

Here is an extract from that link provided in the early comment:

''We should have realized that many players would assume the product was complete before they bought it. Some who purchased it didn’t know what “Early Access” meant, and it was their first time installing Steam. Many players simply bought the sequel without any research, expecting a finished game (for an idle game – this means “infinite” content), and they were terribly disappointed. This was a failure on our part.''

Have you any idea how slimey that wording is? They basically dump all the problems on the players for ''not knowing what early access is'' and give a passive aggressive apology. The entire thing is filled with crap like that, just nonstop side stepping the actual issue while making it seem like its all the player bases fault. They should quit making games and going into politics instead.

Dont defend scumbag companies like this, save your energy for the ones who deserve it.

[davidb11]

Sorry, but it's not allowed to complain about Early Access games like they're finished products.
It's completely absurd to do that.

So, no, you're not allowed to call it slimy when it is LITERALLY how Early Access works.
LOL wut.

[Arevi]

Originally posted by davidb11:

Sorry, but it's not allowed to complain about Early Access games like they're finished products.
It's completely absurd to do that.

So, no, you're not allowed to call it slimy when it is LITERALLY how Early Access works.
LOL wut.

Are you just purposefully misreading my words?

Sorry but im not going to bother discussing something with you when its obvious you are just trolling for attention.