Is Denuvo here to stay?

[Draconic Creature]

Pretty much what the title says. My primary concern regarding this is that, if Denuvo servers are to die for whatever reason temporarily or permanently, what guarantee do I have that I will still be able to play the game that I have bought? Will I still be able to play it in a few years if I feel like I want to? Will this always be weighed down by a pointless DRM that just is an annoyance?

[Mobile Suit God Damn]

It's actually weird that the publisher is still bothering with paying for Denuvo since the game got cracked last year. Normally once a game gets cracked the contract gets canceled because the DRM is pointless.
That said, if whoever makes Denuvo ever did go tits up and the servers died I'm sure the publisher would remove the crap.

[Draconic Creature]

Originally posted by Mobile Suit ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:

It's actually weird that the publisher is still bothering with paying for Denuvo since the game got cracked last year. Normally once a game gets cracked the contract gets canceled because the DRM is pointless.
That said, if whoever makes Denuvo ever did go tits up and the servers died I'm sure the publisher would remove the crap. :chuchelangry:

It's cracked? Wow, that just makes Denuvo literally a waste of money and time then, and personally I'd rather have Denuvo removed from games entirely before the very much inevitable death of the drm servers, since I don't really have the confidence that all studios will actually bother to fix the problem they themselves created...

[Patrick M. Bateman]

Yaaaaas

[Bowllow]

Game looks interesting.
Unfortunately, Denuvo...

[MericSever]

Originally posted by Bowllow:

Game looks interesting.
Unfortunately, Denuvo...

Literally most games have Denuvo or another encryption anti-tamper / piracy / cheat software enabled on them its HOW they are enabled or used that make a difference, for the most part the harsher versions are used for online games with co-op or multiplayer.

if you don't want any DRM at all go to your PC Control panel and uninstall steam ... its DRM XD

[Bowllow]

Originally posted by MericSever:

Originally posted by Bowllow:

Game looks interesting.
Unfortunately, Denuvo...

Literally most games have Denuvo or another encryption anti-tamper / piracy / cheat software enabled on them its HOW they are enabled or used that make a difference, for the most part the harsher versions are used for online games with co-op or multiplayer.

if you don't want any DRM at all go to your PC Control panel and uninstall steam ... its DRM XD

Steam has long ascended as a platform. E.g. you need the client to download our game copy/update. Without Denuvo activation server, our game is dead.

[MericSever]

Originally posted by Bowllow:

Steam has long ascended as a platform. E.g. you need the client to download our game copy/update. Without Denuvo activation server, our game is dead.

Its a few lines of code that get patched to correctly disable Denuvo from there end (developer not Denuvo side , its not an issue ..."Only" an issue if the company goes belly up and no one is around to patch it, just look at the GameSpy saga .... now that was a ♥♥♥♥♥ show

[JocularJosh]

Originally posted by MericSever:

Originally posted by Bowllow:

Steam has long ascended as a platform. E.g. you need the client to download our game copy/update. Without Denuvo activation server, our game is dead.

Its a few lines of code that get patched to correctly disable Denuvo from there end (developer not Denuvo side , its not an issue ..."Only" an issue if the company goes belly up and no one is around to patch it, just look at the GameSpy saga .... now that was a ♥♥♥♥♥ show :lunar2019crylaughingpig:

But the fact that this can ♥♥♥♥ up future games is more than enough to call it anti-consumer.
There is no defending denuvo, it's bad overall for the consumer.

[Wylie28]

Originally posted by Bowllow:

Originally posted by MericSever:

Literally most games have Denuvo or another encryption anti-tamper / piracy / cheat software enabled on them its HOW they are enabled or used that make a difference, for the most part the harsher versions are used for online games with co-op or multiplayer.

if you don't want any DRM at all go to your PC Control panel and uninstall steam ... its DRM XD

Steam has long ascended as a platform. E.g. you need the client to download our game copy/update. Without Denuvo activation server, our game is dead.

Without steam servers. Your game is dead. Steam IS DRM. Makes no difference. Don't be a hypocrite.

[Draconic Creature]

Originally posted by Wylie28:

Originally posted by Bowllow:

Steam has long ascended as a platform. E.g. you need the client to download our game copy/update. Without Denuvo activation server, our game is dead.

Without steam servers. Your game is dead. Steam IS DRM. Makes no difference. Don't be a hypocrite.

Steam offers more than just being a DRM too. That, and it's a DRM that's been cracked pretty comprehensively. Denuvo, on the other hand, hasn't even made any promises of that, if they go under for whatever reason, they'd unlock even a single one of the games that have DRM on them.

And if you think something like that can't happen, it happened just recently with one of the might & magic titles, with the DRM servers being taken down and rendering most of the game literally impossible to play, and instead of actually fixing it, the company, who is UBISOFT, just yanked the game from listings entirely, leaving people who do have the game, absolutely screwed.

[Swamp Fox]

You would never want to play this game again in the future. The gameplay is extremely rudimentary and the environments and setting are ugly.

[El Shabs]

I think it's worth looking into Digital Foundry's comparison of Resident Evil Village vs the "cracked" version. I bought the game on Steam , Capcom still haven't patched it so lots of players like me are experiencing performance issues, and the pirated version apparently runs better, so maybe Denuvo does have an adverse impact. I'm sure on Maneater it's not a huge deal, as you could run it on a smartphone looking at the graphics, but RE Village is a lot more advanced and it's showing that Denuvo is anti-consumer

[caelcyndar5]

Originally posted by Wylie28:

Originally posted by Bowllow:

Steam has long ascended as a platform. E.g. you need the client to download our game copy/update. Without Denuvo activation server, our game is dead.

Without steam servers. Your game is dead. Steam IS DRM. Makes no difference. Don't be a hypocrite.

Steam authenticates your game ONCE at purchase and that's IT. Denuvo CONSTANTLY checks your game to make sure that it doesn't transform into a pirated copy IN THE MIDDLE OF GAMEPLAY.

[Nalkor]

Originally posted by caelcyndar5:

Originally posted by Wylie28:

Without steam servers. Your game is dead. Steam IS DRM. Makes no difference. Don't be a hypocrite.

Steam authenticates your game ONCE at purchase and that's IT. Denuvo CONSTANTLY checks your game to make sure that it doesn't transform into a pirated copy IN THE MIDDLE OF GAMEPLAY.

I swear, if Denuvo is why the game is no longer playing after installing the DLC, I'm gonna be pissed off.

[Fideo]

Denuvo = not buy
Also uninstall Killing Floor 2 and no buy more games from Tripwire Interactive