Final Apex boss fight

[CaptainCobana]

Been playing the main game plus the dlc lately and it was all pretty easy so far. Combat and gameplay never was that good tbh but yeah..
Now that I'm at the final apex boss fight of the DLC, the MOLOCH or what it's called, I keep asking myself: Are they serious?
Is it just me or is anybody else having major problems with it? Like i'm maxed out and even switched to the new atomic set which -admitedly - helped a bit. Still the fight is a real pain in the ass, like the boss still feels sooo crazily overpowered, feels actually pretty unbalanced in comparison to the rest of the game.
I know what to do and in theory it's not that hard at all. I just find it hard to evade its attacks and the targeting when firing back its projectiles doesn't always work right, so they miss. Also the area isn't very suiting for the fight imo as there is barely any chance to get a bit away from it as well as little amount of fish to heal up.
Also the way to get there every time you die.. It wasn't with other fights before, was it? Like i'm pretty sure you would just respawn at the location.

However I was just about to beat it (or I thought so anyway), when it summoned lots of bigger enemies with the same atomic power as the Apex has. It all just went so quick, before I could do anything, something just one-hitted me. I don't even know exactly what it was.

This has got to be a joke right? Is there any proper tactic for the fight? Something I'm missing? Anybody else having problems there?

[Darth Woras]

I just spam-evade-with atomic fins and head, along with +30 -30 buff debuff sonar.

Combat is just.....none, in this game :D

[CaptainCobana]

Oh, what about that sonar? Might check it out-

Yeah, very true. Haha.

[LadstonFelisGaming]

Use tail catapult and the aim mode for whipshots, it just melts him

[Sgt Reed]

It's not that hard. I beat him on my thrid try. Spam evade until the fins come off then quickly grab and shoot twice. There's no time for the third one. When the minions appear just ignore them and keep evading. You'll get it!

[achance007]

I'm with the OG poster, I can't freaking beat him. besides the sonars, what else are you guys using? I've tried probably 40 times and I can't beat him or even get him close. He will catch me once or twice or get hit with the beam and then I spend the rest of the time searching for the sparse fish and I die. Then then the long swim back to him and un skippable cut scenes are driving me crazy. I've watched some youtube fights and he seems to attack me a lot faster and I seem to lose health faster.

[LadstonFelisGaming]

Oprindeligt skrevet af achance007:

I'm with the OG poster, I can't freaking beat him. besides the sonars, what else are you guys using? I've tried probably 40 times and I can't beat him or even get him close. He will catch me once or twice or get hit with the beam and then I spend the rest of the time searching for the sparse fish and I die. Then then the long swim back to him and un skippable cut scenes are driving me crazy. I've watched some youtube fights and he seems to attack me a lot faster and I seem to lose health faster.

Here’s what I had equipped, maybe try this setup. Do note, though, that all of these are maxed out and my shark is at max level:

Jaws: Shadow Teeth (Heal on bite)
Head: Bone Head (Damage reduction)
Body: Atomic Body (Body ability and immunity to the radiation damage over time)
Fins: Bone Fins (Damage on dodge with no penalty to i-frames)
Tail: Shadow Tail (Decent ranged attack on tail whip and passive boosts to swim speed and whipshots)
Organ 1: Healing Factor (HP regen over time, stacks with Shadow Teeth’s healing)
Organ 2: Reinforced Cartilage (Damage reduction)
Organ 3: Powerful Muscles (Swim Speed)
Organ 4: Tail Catapult (Passive bonuses to whipshots)

The biggest part of my strategy is whipshot, whipshot, whipshot. All the passive bonuses to that particular ability tears him apart, especially if you toss his spikes back at him. Nothing to grab and toss? Use the Shadow Tail to harass him from a distance until he gives you more spikes to throw.
If he ever gets close, dodge and lunge like mad to get a safe distance between you and him. He’s large enough that you can even get easy damage in with the Bone Fins while making space by dodging through him.

[Vomit]

Just go Bone set and add the new passive which debuffs enemies with sonar use and the other new passive which regenerates your health over time.

I used this and just mashed buttons to win. Even when he calls in his goons they can't possibly kill me with the debuffs I put on them combined with the health regen passive.

[Vomit]

Oprindeligt skrevet af Darth Woras:

I just spam-evade-with atomic fins and head, along with +30 -30 buff debuff sonar.

Combat is just.....none, in this game :D

The sonar buff he's talking about is the key to victory. Turns the fight into a joke. The debuff is absurdly OP.

[Just Chill]

I just killed it at first try. :O

Used that built:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2597901652

I guess the 2 sonar upgrades to increase my buddy's damage +30% and decrease the damage enemies inflict -30% were a big help.
In addition to that I use +15% damage resistance and health automatically regenerates over time.

It was really easy.
I just went full mayhem as I also do when I fight hunters in their boats.
Spamming Q or E to evade, but also smashing the left mouse button to attack and sending out the sonar from time to time to apply the effects.
The Apex grabbed my shark a few times, but as of being affected by the -30% damage reduction it wasn't that much of a big deal.
When the irradiated backup arrived for the Apex, I just continued concentrating on him and had it down pretty quick.
The battle didn't even last 5 minutes. XD


The most difficult and annoying thing in the game where the time trials.
While the first ones were very easy, the last ones really got nasty (with jumping over a bridge etc).


But after all, I beat the game. :D

[Just Chill]

As of recently replaying the game from scratch, I've recorded that fight:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=2601683503

The backup is annoying, as they mostly end up as being the target giving the Atomic Apex Predator enough time to rengenerate the shield.

Still... My buddy wasn't close to death at any time. :D


Oh, I previously refered to my buddy as "him". But this time I realized that she is refered as "her" by Scaly Pete.
So I stand here corrected. :)

[Ansgar Odinson]

It took me forever to kill the final boss because he can continue to attack you during the phase change cutscene.

[dzeath]

I was getting nowhere fighting this last boss as well. Then I went full bone armor with cartilage, attack and defense sonars, plus health regen. Spin your shark silly, never drop below 90% health, and game over in less than 5 minutes.
Would like to be able to replay that fight since this method seems a bit cheese, but frustration over at least.

[Just Chill]

Oprindeligt skrevet af dzeath:

I was getting nowhere fighting this last boss as well. Then I went full bone armor with cartilage, attack and defense sonars, plus health regen. Spin your shark silly, never drop below 90% health, and game over in less than 5 minutes.
Would like to be able to replay that fight since this method seems a bit cheese, but frustration over at least.

You can switch back to my save to redo the fight if you want.

[CaptainCobana]

Oprindeligt skrevet af LadstonFelisGaming:

Oprindeligt skrevet af achance007:

I'm with the OG poster, I can't freaking beat him. besides the sonars, what else are you guys using? I've tried probably 40 times and I can't beat him or even get him close. He will catch me once or twice or get hit with the beam and then I spend the rest of the time searching for the sparse fish and I die. Then then the long swim back to him and un skippable cut scenes are driving me crazy. I've watched some youtube fights and he seems to attack me a lot faster and I seem to lose health faster.

Here’s what I had equipped, maybe try this setup. Do note, though, that all of these are maxed out and my shark is at max level:

Jaws: Shadow Teeth (Heal on bite)
Head: Bone Head (Damage reduction)
Body: Atomic Body (Body ability and immunity to the radiation damage over time)
Fins: Bone Fins (Damage on dodge with no penalty to i-frames)
Tail: Shadow Tail (Decent ranged attack on tail whip and passive boosts to swim speed and whipshots)
Organ 1: Healing Factor (HP regen over time, stacks with Shadow Teeth’s healing)
Organ 2: Reinforced Cartilage (Damage reduction)
Organ 3: Powerful Muscles (Swim Speed)
Organ 4: Tail Catapult (Passive bonuses to whipshots)

The biggest part of my strategy is whipshot, whipshot, whipshot. All the passive bonuses to that particular ability tears him apart, especially if you toss his spikes back at him. Nothing to grab and toss? Use the Shadow Tail to harass him from a distance until he gives you more spikes to throw.
If he ever gets close, dodge and lunge like mad to get a safe distance between you and him. He’s large enough that you can even get easy damage in with the Bone Fins while making space by dodging through him.

I forgot to reply but this one worked like a charm for me. Thank you!

[Tsun Tzu]

I've just been using the bone armor set along with the shadow teeth, healing factor, damage reduction, and swim speed mods.

Straight up just evade spammed and gnawed my way through it all. Not even difficult.