Denuvo's been cracked (again)

[King of Evil]

So remove it, QLOC.

https://www.techspot.com/news/72871-latest-version-denuvo-drm-has-cracked.html

[RhodosGuard]

I dont think QLOC has any influence over whether or not Denuvo stays

[Stefan]

Originally posted by RhodosGuard:

I dont think QLOC has any influence over whether or not Denuvo stays

I agree. WB hired them to make the PC Port. The Decision if WB removes Denuvo or not will be made by WB (and I doubt they will)

[mabri_evangelion001]

I agree too, but as we say in Italy: "wait and hope it will come true". denuvo has been cracked, true, but there is not even the shadow of the game to download. until then...they will still sleep soundly.

[Stefan]

According the Article, Denuvo is just bypassed, not cracked. It still runs in the background.

[MatthewHager312]

Why would a game company remove an ant-piracy program?
Just because someone can kick your front door in doesn't mean you should get rid of the locks. :/

[Creed Bratton]

because publishers has to pay to keep denuvo updated and working
don't think about locks
think about a bodyguard, if you pay a bodyguard to protect you and then he's disabled there's no point in keep paying him if he can't do his job

[⛧NecRoBile⛧]

Originally posted by Karl Hungus ARG:

because publishers has to pay to keep denuvo updated and working
don't think about locks
think about a bodyguard, if you pay a bodyguard to protect you and then he's disabled there's no point in keep paying him if he can't do his job

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KpcmfjFN8OI

[MatthewHager312]

Originally posted by Karl Hungus ARG:

because publishers has to pay to keep denuvo updated and working
don't think about locks
think about a bodyguard, if you pay a bodyguard to protect you and then he's disabled there's no point in keep paying him if he can't do his job

Well, hopefully anti-piracy software becomes uncrackable.
It's still needed though, a dead dog is better than no dog at all.

[RayoTrueno]

Originally posted by MatthewHager312:

Originally posted by Karl Hungus ARG:

because publishers has to pay to keep denuvo updated and working
don't think about locks
think about a bodyguard, if you pay a bodyguard to protect you and then he's disabled there's no point in keep paying him if he can't do his job

Well, hopefully anti-piracy software becomes uncrackable.
It's still needed though, a dead dog is better than no dog at all.

haha I prefer no dog than a rotten corpse but I am a rare pepe so...

[Creed Bratton]

Idk. Here in argentina games are really expensive (a lot more compared to usa and europe) and piracy sometimes it's the only way to really see if a game it's worth buying. If the industry keeps releasing full unfinished games at full price and sometimes with little to none sp content (not injustice case) and without a free demo or trial to see if it's actually worth it according to people preferences, it's kinda a necesary evil. I'm not defending piracy, don't get me wrong, but instead of looking to actual ways to get people to buy their games, the publishers keep wasting money in invasive and problematic forms of drm wich makes them sale less (on pc) and give problems to the people who care to buy them

In my case it was the opportunity to get to play games like dragon age, witcher and mkx before buying them the reason i ended up buying them

The injustice 2 beta made my mind for buying it day 1 at full price

And of course i skipped games like mass effect andromeda or later assassins creed because i didn't enjoy the time i played pirated copy of those games

You can say that steam has the refund policy. But for it will take more than a 120 minutes gameolay to decide if wanna spend time on partucular games

Again, i'm not defending piracy, i'm just blaming the questionable calls made by the studios wich instead of preventing it are actually encouranging it

[MatthewHager312]

Usually, when I hear about how bad anti-piracy stuff is, it's boils down to two camps. 1) it's actually bad and breaks the game. (Sonic Mania comes to mind.) Or 2) Pirates can't get it and they cry a lot about it. They are the vocal minority, but man, do they cry and cry. At least until the game gets cracked, then they disappear...until the next AAA game comes out that uses Denuvo.
I never had a problem with Denuvo. I understand why it's there and I'm fine with it.

[RhodosGuard]

Originally posted by Karl Hungus ARG:

Idk. Here in argentina games are really expensive (a lot more compared to usa and europe) and piracy sometimes it's the only way to really see if a game it's worth buying. If the industry keeps releasing full unfinished games at full price and sometimes with little to none sp content (not injustice case) and without a free demo or trial to see if it's actually worth it according to people preferences, it's kinda a necesary evil. I'm not defending piracy, don't get me wrong, but instead of looking to actual ways to get people to buy their games, the publishers keep wasting money in invasive and problematic forms of drm wich makes them sale less (on pc) and give problems to the people who care to buy them

In my case it was the opportunity to get to play games like dragon age, witcher and mkx before buying them the reason i ended up buying them

The injustice 2 beta made my mind for buying it day 1 at full price

And of course i skipped games like mass effect andromeda or later assassins creed because i didn't enjoy the time i played pirated copy of those games

You can say that steam has the refund policy. But for it will take more than a 120 minutes gameolay to decide if wanna spend time on partucular games

Again, i'm not defending piracy, i'm just blaming the questionable calls made by the studios wich instead of preventing it are actually encouranging it

You have 2 hours of a basically free trial for each steam game.

[Creed Bratton]

if it's a game like arkham knight o mkx wich did not work at launch and you played for over 2 hours triying configs and fixes you're screwed, if you played over 2 hours and don't like the game you're screwed

not only the publishers has anti-consumer drm (denuvo is known to cause problems because it runs in the background ALL THE TIME) but steam has a anti-consumer refund policy wich gives you little to no time to test and try the game (wich i admit that is still better than nothing, but only 2 hours is not enough for me to make my mind)

injustice 2 was released 7 months after consoles, at full price, with lots of bugs and problems (some of wich maybe are related to denuvo, idk) and we have little to none feedback from devs
after 2 months the online is nearly dead (worldwide) and numbers show that the game is struggling to get 1k players per day, and the sales weren't good at all compared to the consoles and to other titles

now take a look at the witcher 3, it has no drm at all, and yesterday, nearly 3 years after release, it was over 8k people still playing it (only on steam)
my point is that if the game is good, polished and the developers care for the consumers their game will sell anyways, also sooner or later the game will be cracked, therefore the drm it's useless from any point of view in my opinion

the best anti-piracy method in my opinion is a good polished game and to actually listen and care for the costumers, not a lock that may cause you performance issues

[MatthewHager312]

It doesn't matter how good the game is. If someone wants you steal it, they will. The quality of the game has zero impact on how it gets pirated. One could argue that a successful and polished game will get pirated more than some crappy game.
DRM like Denuvo is a necessary evil that pc gamers have to learn to live with.

[Creed Bratton]

i disagree, as i said, witcher 3 had no drm, everyone can play it even if you don't buy it, but the game was so good and the devs care so much for their customer that a lot of the people who pirate it ended up buying it (myself included)
the game sell really well, is still selling really well and has a big player base even 3 years after release on every platform