Competitive restrictions for characters abilities?

[Yogur]

Hello is this a q bug or is restriction of competitive mathc?

I cant use in competitive matches the teleport abilietie of subzero

and that abiliie comes handly against darkseid deadshot and superman, spammers characters that they only do 2 moves and u cant aproach to them in a long distance.

[Unapologetic Bigot]

Abilities are part of gear and so they are not available in competitive.

[Private Tatoes]

Competitive mode disables all gear stats and modifiers.
Any loadout you use will purely be for aesthetics only, so special abilities equipped in the loadout don't work.
Sucks, but that's the way they made the game.

[Barrogh]

That's, like, the entire point of competitive mode.

[McMurphy]

try -> -> meterburn

[Private Tatoes]

Originally posted by Barrogh:

That's, like, the entire point of competitive mode.

Stats definitely have no place in competitive mode, but I would argue ability slots CAN fit.
Think about it: It's a way for you to change how a character plays, by altering specials or adding new ones. It can change the way a match is played.
It adds an extra layer of strategy and thought in a match when you have to consider that your opponent's Batman might not be the same as other Batman's you've fought before.

Sort of like MKX's Kombat Styles, but with more variations.
The abilities are already balanced in that the more powerful ones have to use two slots instead of the usual one.

As long as opponents can see what abilities each other have equipped before the match, it could be fun to play and watch, even in tournaments IMO.

[Barrogh]

Originally posted by Private Tatoes:

but I would argue ability slots CAN fit.

In principle? It worked in Rising Thunder, yeah. But that game was balanced around modular builds. Not very well, but whatever.

Either way, what I meant that the entire point of competitive mode is to disable grindable stuff and bring characters to vanilla form that Paulo and co. were balancing the game around.

[Yogur]

is totally unfair...


bcoz ppl playing competitive matchets spam with superman, darkseid and any long distances character....

And if they dont do that they play as bane i can beat him but those characters who play in long distance and spam with 2 moves over and over again......


i can do nothing about it, basicly haves the teleport abilie legal, and they force me to change characer. Bcoz of that do u think that is fair?

[Yogur]

i can even play against others characters and do my tricks and legal stuff just bcoz they force me to change character....♥♥♥♥ em. The sad parti is that no body mention this is in a review.

[Barrogh]

Originally posted by John ElMasoBlanco:

The sad parti is that no body mention this is in a review.

Because it's a matter of "gitting gut". You don't need teleport to get on zoners in this game where it takes 2 seconds to cross the screen by walking.
If it's really bad for you, wait for a patch to be deployed on the PC. They nerfed a few characters like that there. Not Supes or Darkseid though. Their zoning is not why they are dangerous in the first place.

[Dinosaurman]

You need to watch some competetive tournaments and get good. Learn from the best pro players, watch them how to counter projetiles even with characters unable to teleport / zone back.

[Barrogh]

To be fair, you kind of need a secondary character in this game though. Not that they are too hard to learn in NRS games, but still...

[Yogur]

i need to change my favorite chraacters? because of 4 charcaters that they use to spam with 2 moves in the whole competitive match? Of course that i need a teleport move to get to the point of the map if u are in the otger side spamming only doing 2 moves n ♥♥♥♥ while i am doing my best to get to get u because i cant.

bcoz to moves air attack and ground attack and the plus that if i get there u teleport.

So teach me to beat superman/darkseid doing those 2 moves using subzero btw moves that take almost 40 of doing damage

And if u choose bane while is an slow characters who only use grab´s moves bane is easy to beat....but the others god is a head ache.

Yeah i changed to darkseid but i have to level up

[Yogur]

i dont have problems at all with chacters that they play in close middle range..against subzero but others is almost impossible and frustasting, is not game breaking to "allow" some abilities that they dont do nothing of damage just move to avoid spam moves.

move witch is teleport who those moves are default for raiden darkseid and others,. why is "banned" with sub zero? just because is an mk charcter? well then why they put 2 mk characters an a dc game? dont understand then......

What is the reason of breaking ur ass off to get some new abilities with ur favorite character if u can only use them in SP mode.? puf annoying

if they put scorpion they are going to ban scorpion teleport move also? (i know that is there no scoprion is jsut an example) bah anyway i like the game

but some chacarters (btw i dont know how to write that word) are too difficult for me to use like when i am triying to do some combos.....

[Barrogh]

Originally posted by John ElMasoBlanco:

i need to change my favorite chraacters?

No, the answer was given:

Originally posted by 残暴大表哥BVS:

You need to watch some competetive tournaments and get good. Learn from the best pro players, watch them how to counter projetiles even with characters unable to teleport / zone back.

So, practice.
Fighting games are hard. NRS games are notorious for having stuff that is easier to execute than to counter. That's what we pay for them having low entry barrier. But it's still possible.

Originally posted by John ElMasoBlanco:

So teach me to beat superman/darkseid doing those 2 moves

Duck horizontal projectiles, walk in. Block what you cannot duck. Slow projectiles can be jumped on reaction, but don't do so proactively. After jumped heat vision (usually air one) or horizontal omega beams you get to dash or slide for free, just don't slide too close since you don't want to slide right into block.

Also, Subs can slide under horizontal projectiles directly. Learn how to tell zap from heat vision and react accordingly. Additionally, clone can be used to cover you from one projectile. Sometimes you can use that to MB freeze your opponent.

Hit training mode and figure out what hits overhead to avoid trying to duck it, such as heat vision MB.

Learn optimal combos, pressure routes and Sub's corner crossup vortex (search for that on youtube or testyourmight.com). Once you're in, you need to make that count.

Originally posted by John ElMasoBlanco:

What is the reason of breaking ur ass off to get some new abilities with ur favorite character if u can only use them in SP mode.? puf annoying

You can use them in non-competitive player matches. So, not only in SP.

Originally posted by John ElMasoBlanco:

if they put scorpion they are going to ban scorpion teleport move also? (i know that is there no scoprion is jsut an example)

If it will be in base moveset, no. If it's in gear abilities - yes. Just like Raiden has teleport in competitive mode, but doesn't have static traps, while subs has slide but no teleport.

Originally posted by John ElMasoBlanco:

but some chacarters (btw i dont know how to write that word) are too difficult for me to use like when i am triying to do some combos.....

As always, use training mode. You'll get that eventually. Or you can try less execution-heavy characters, maybe you'll like some of them. One of the reason I've picked Bane is because his stuff is almost impossible to drop after like 3 days of practice.

Anyway, good luck. If you need more specific tips, feel free to ask in this thread.

[Yogur]

ty for the answer