Should I buy Ride 2? [or GPBikes]

[Jez Hammond]

I see Ride 2 is on sale. I like this game (IoM TT) in 'Simulation' mode...is R2 of similar hardcore playability? Don't get me wrong, I like a good fun game just that I want something like this but with proper support (filtered leaderboard / multiplayer, etc.), and a community that isn't grounded.

Guess I will get it for the awesome tracks, presuming it has a sim mode? Plus hopefully someone can get TT in (if user owns this obviously).

*edited topic to represent a real sim

[Holden_Mcgroin]

I've got Ride2 and I love it..... But if you want more "feel" and physics, it's not the right one for you imho.
I've got GP Bikes. Physics are great. It's really hard at first, but suddenly something "clicks" and it all feels like a bike somehow.

Here's another one that might be interesting for you if you have not got it already. Don't let the age of it put you off. Community have been updating it for a decade at least.

GP500 (Old 1998/9 microprose) Pretty much an "abandonware" free download found on search with a lively community and more mods than you can shake a stick at, loads of tracks, every bike under the sun, and all sorts of mods and physics tweaks)
https://youtu.be/PtqcZ2JCt4M

Also ^^^^follow this girl's channel for a lot of bike sim racing^^^^

[Jez Hammond]

Video of GP500 looks ace! Is it as playable as it looks? Though I'm dubious of what looks like a digital throttle (except during slowdown lap). Also if that's AI then cool stuff, love how Rothmans dude keeps going for it down the inside and outbraking themselves!

Is Ride2 a challenge is my main concern? So if I push way too hard will I lose the bike...not really bothered about AI but also a big bonus as I'm studying/investigating them too; for my own sim which I keep going back to in my plans.

If I can spare the pennies then I will have GPBikes and Ride2 by this time next week! Plus I shall search for GP500 today, ideal cheers :)

@Kylotonn, hello (hello, hello), is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me...

[Jez Hammond]

Never thought it would be so satisfying riding through a lampost!

Well I might have to investigate setting up the wheel for a proper go, as the video looked fun. But that was not ideal on keys...similar to my first go on TT though :P

[Ride]

All 3 Games have their place, GP Bikes has the best Simultated feel (imo) (neds modding), Ride 2 has awful camera sway (aain fixed with a mod) okish physics with aids off (this kills online tho) which leaves TT Which I Feel is in the middle of the 2.

[Jez Hammond]

Agreed regarding TT being in the middle. I think it's about 75%+ towards being up there in terms of sim-playability. It could easily be 110% if the devs took control </cough>.

Hm so Ride2 has no online sim-heads? Perhaps I shall just focus on GPBikes as I fit the niche. But I really want to hear that it has serious amounts of hours of playability and feels like rider ability is rewarded...similar to TT except without being punished for nothing.

[Jez Hammond]

(at least that is how I see it without playing Ride2 yet)

[Xer0]

You could buy ride 2 on steam, try it for less than 2 hours and get a refund.

[Jez Hammond]

I have a 100% clean record (no refunds), because I am a developer I like to keep it that way.

I considered getting a cheap key but for example I was punished heavily for doing that with this game, when the publisher turned all ignorant because I was asking where my Joey Dunlop early adopter was...they just ignored and disrespected because I couldn't afford to buy from their preferred shop.

So I will behave and rise above the money makers.

[Stevie]

I play GPBikes in VR and it is bloody amazing. And HARD!!!

Ride 2 isn't that bad. There is an easy camera fix and e very good physics fix available for download at Race Department's website. With those 2 installed I am realy enjoying it.

[Jez Hammond]

Now that is tempting. Though I'm not so sure that RD will have me.

[Holden_Mcgroin]

Originally posted by Jez Hammond:

Video of GP500 looks ace! Is it as playable as it looks? Though I'm dubious of what looks like a digital throttle (except during slowdown lap). Also if that's AI then cool stuff, love how Rothmans dude keeps going for it down the inside and outbraking themselves!

Is Ride2 a challenge is my main concern? So if I push way too hard will I lose the bike...not really bothered about AI but also a big bonus as I'm studying/investigating them too; for my own sim which I keep going back to in my plans.

If I can spare the pennies then I will have GPBikes and Ride2 by this time next week! Plus I shall search for GP500 today, ideal cheers :)

@Kylotonn, hello (hello, hello), is there anybody in there? Just nod if you can hear me...

You can make ride2 a real challenge with addon physics mod.

Oh yea, GP500 is really playable :) You can make it as hard or as easy as you want, with lots of mods for bikes, physics, sound, effects, tracks etc. Plenty of real road racing circuits. I even got one once for the bremehaven fish docks races but lost it and can't find it again now.

You wont regret getting GP500, you can also get the "usual suspect" (or "highlights") ported IoM track shown below (abridged to 18miles by shortening the straights) that we all use in assetto corsa, GP legends etc. Just takes a little bit of scratching around on google and forums for all the downloads addons and mods. Hint "abandonware" ;)

TT road Racing in GP500

https://youtu.be/hLchYkyDYIY

Dundrod road racing in GP500 (links and hints where to Download it in the comments)

https://youtu.be/lE_XYtgjpHw

[Jez Hammond]

The videos have fun written all over them, thanks for bringing this to our attention! I'm highly inspired.

One thing going for TTIoMtheGame is I can watch video #1 and recognise many a place. What a wonderful job Microprose did back in the day, they don't make games like they used to!

Video #2, the touching near the start looks so epic in terms of fun. None of that canned sound effect (boom) and sent in to orbit around Earth...

Also by the way the player rolls off the throttle, it is apparent that there is a fair amount of realism in the sense that it's quite 'simcade'. I look forward to getting in to this deeper further in the week, depending on real life right now being an @ss.

Also I think I'm sold on Ride2, too. That's as long as I can download all mods without any nonsense. Should be ok, but nothing seizes to amaze me these days. If that goes to plan then Milestone will get top dollar from me.

For sure I know of a game that could learn a whole bunch from this thread...

[kmanitou81]

Originally posted by Jez Hammond:

I have a 100% clean record (no refunds), because I am a developer I like to keep it that way.

I considered getting a cheap key but for example I was punished heavily for doing that with this game, when the publisher turned all ignorant because I was asking where my Joey Dunlop early adopter was...they just ignored and disrespected because I couldn't afford to buy from their preferred shop.

So I will behave and rise above the money makers.

You buy from unauthortized cross-region sellers and scammers and you talk about a clean record? ahahah

[Jez Hammond]

You come along and think you know it all. It was gifted, I've never bought from 3rd party and already said I won't be this Friday. Go troll somewhere else, and no not my other post like you did already.

[KG_03]

Its hard to compare Ride 2 and Iom TT. Both games have different philosophy of developing and riding the bike. And also different features/issues. With no doubt Ride 2 is the best commercial motorcycle game with track and road racing experience. IoM TT is set only up for TT racing and all other things were made just to fill the hole in game that has very few features and poor multiplayer experience.

So over all go for Ride 2. GP Bikes is a different story. First of all its unfinished, still in development with a graphics similar to titles from year 2000. However it has very realistic physics, great multiplayer experience and all features real racing has. If ypu look for a game that has lots of mods add on tracks, realistic experience and features dont hesitate and buy GP Bikes. But, keep in mind that like in real life GP Bikes does not forgive the rider any mistakes.